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3.0 V6 Quattro - Opinions & info needed

Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by Stan 24v, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. Stan 24v
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    Hi all

    Im toying with the idea of a B5.5 3.0 V6 Quattro, but know bugger all about them apart from theyre around 220 BHP.

    Can someone shed some light as to what theyre like to run, insurance etc.

    Also what are the weak points to look out for on a test drive?

    Cheers
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    Sorry, posted in B6 section by mistake, can someone move it please?

    Cheers
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    [Apr 21, 2008]
    That is a B6 isnt it? :think:
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    [Apr 21, 2008]
    I thought it was a B5.5?????
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    Anyway, still awaiting some info ;)
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    J7USS Shuddup Foooool!!

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    B5.5??lol..thats a new one

    B6!
    Can I ask why you are going for a 3.0 V6? are you looking for power wise?? or is it the low Rumble..:eyebrows:
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    Ok so its a B6, I just realised I was thinking about the difference in Passats as they have a B5 5.5 and 6, doh.

    Anyway, Power and rumble mate ;)

    Here are my cars for the last few years:

    Nissan 200 SX x 2
    Corrado VR6 x 2 - one with a 24v conversion ;)
    1 x Seat Leon Cupra (current)
    1 x Golf V6 4motion (current)

    get my drift?? lol

    Also, I really like the shape of these. I know it aint gonna be the best for fuel/tax/insurance but Im pretty used to that.

    How do they drive and handle?
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    J7USS Shuddup Foooool!!

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    :)ahh So you like your big engines then, Well ive never heard Bad reports on them mate! im sure few of the guys on here will be here to give you assistance, Mine is a 1.8t so dont really know about the v6 model. Sports suspension will be ok, mine is the sports so naturally lower by 20mm than standard. Handling is Fine though a suspension kit would be even better.
    Sits well and from what ive heard in person, they sound very nice with an aftermarket filter and exhaust, loving the V6 note.
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    Nickynibbles Damn it where's 7th gear when you need it?!

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    Just sold my V6 quattro sport but was nothing to do with the car having any problems! The engine is pretty much bullet proof and certainly is a dream to drive hard, certainly sounds awesome! Timing belt gets changed at 80k miles, many will say to change after 4/5yrs but I hadnt changed mine which was an '02 plate but kept an eye on it for signs of wear, there were none & garage confirmed all was ok on last service in October. That basically leaves you with usual A4 B6 chassis oddities which you can browse the forum and see what crops up, aerial connections, aircon pressure sensors, arb bushes corroding, blocked drainage holes under the battery causes leaks into passenger footwell........nothing too major really as long as you know what your looking for. As with any car, test everything works on the car and drive it on at least 2 different occasions so you dont get carried away with desire the 1st time!
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    Spoke to the guy tonight and he seems pretty honest. Told me about 2 trolley dings, scratch on front bumper and 2 scuffs on alloys. has FASH to 80k, then specialist twice after that. Also had the belt changed a 74k by Audi. Sounds pretty goo to me. What you reckon?
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    How much is it up for??
    What year is it??
    Whats the Current Mileage??
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    [Apr 22, 2008]
    51 plate
    99k
    £4995
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    Nickynibbles Damn it where's 7th gear when you need it?!

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    Its a very basic spec so the price is reflecting that. If I were you though i'd look into having the car inspected by the RAC/AA to check things over properly, its pretty much the cheapest A4 3.0 on autotrader at the moment so you dont want to buy something with underlying problems. Most important thing really would be to have the car scanned for fault codes which an inspection should do, this will highlight anything you just cant see that could be wrong. As i've said before they're fairly bullet proof but at that price, which is a very good price, i'd invest in an inspection.
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    ..as the Nibbles says, that is a good price so wont hurt to spend the extra to have it Inspected!!

    May I ask what is your Budget??
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    Budget between £5-6k.

    I will be taking my vag-com with me, and am pretty useful with a spanner, so I should be able to find any issues. The AA/RAC dont have vag-com, they'd just use a fault code reader.

    When you say its basic spec, whats that in comparison to? What is "high" spec on these? Leather and.......
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    dis, cruise, parking sensors, rns-e, full electric heated seats, auto dimming rear view and door mirrors, auto wipers, coming home pack, interior light pack, storage pack, a few options
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    [Apr 22, 2008]
    Yeah but not for £5k ;)
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    5k is v cheap. My car is a 2001 3.0 Quattro tip, 77k miles, FASH and has near £10k worth of options on it from new and was double that price!
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    Anyway guys, need some more info on how they drive, fuel economy etc etc before I spend 2 hrs going to see a car I may not like ;)
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    I've got a 51 plate A4 quattro sport with 3.0v6
    They are certainly thirsty, I get about 23mpg average. I can get 35 out of it at 65 on an A road, but by the time you are up to 85 on a motorway, its back down to 25mpg. Probably similar to your 4motion. it gives 18mpg thrashing around town.

    I had a 1.8T before this, and I love the 3.0! The biggest factor for me is the torque kicks in below 1500rpm, and it just pulls and pulls until the red line. There is absolutely no power band on this car, the linearity of response is fantastic.

    You drive this for a while, you won't want to go back to small turbo engines.

    You will also really appreciate the difference of the full time 4x4 vs the electronic clutch in the 4motion. The car balances superbly. The ESP can be a little intrusive, but you can always turn it off :laugh:

    Only problem I have had is coil packs, but go to a main dealer and they will change for free is under 100000miles. otherwise £25 each.

    Currently having an issue with wheel bearings. Got them changed, but the rumble hasn't gone away. Back to the garage tomorrow.

    It looks like a lot of fun for £5k. I have a pal with an old M3 who I joust with occasionally on the way to work. He can just about pull away in a straight, but the Audi wipes him out on a roundabout!
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    I've got a 3.0v6 quattro, it's a great car, quick, and effortlessly so - eats up miles with ease in all conditions. The engine is lovely - smooth and responsive from low to high revs as mentioned above.

    Not the cheapest to run (it loves petrol), and bear in mind due to the latest revisions of the car tax system, it will fall into the new top band M (for planet-Murderer?!), which means annual VED of £450.

    The only thing I've had with it in 2 years so far was a coilpack, but that's easy to change. Mine's uses 1 litre of oil a year. Quattro makes it very easy on tyres and gives great sense of total control. I've only once managed to provoke the traction control to come on and I was driving like a spanner to do so! You can turn it off too.

    That price is very cheap compared to other v6s, but bear in mind that the market is devaluing all larger engined petrol variants heavily now with the VED changes and increasing petrol prices, so they're all coming down (I was given a price of 8k for mine and I have a lot of "desirable" options). Other specced options it could have had were the lovely BOSE sound system.

    Do you know if it's a "Sport" or an SE? Even in sport trim, it does understeer a lot (that big engine up front!), but I installed an RS4 rear anti-roll bar which helped a bit there. Is it a 5-speed or 6? Seats are much better in Sport trim.

    Front brakes do wear quickly though, all that weight up front again, but pads and discs are cheap. The brakes work well once for one big stop or two, but they're not "track proof" by any means.

    I've had mine re-mapped by MRC which improved the performance at the top-end quite a lot, it certainly shifts on a bit more enthusiastically than stock. Does mean it needs a constant diet of 98 or 99 octane now though which makes it even more expensive to run, ha ha.

    Good luck with it.
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    So whats that again, dealers will change coilpacks for free if cars under 100K thats news to me - does that apply to all B6's. If thats the case then its useful information for all and a waste of good money for all who have had to change them recently including me.
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    I spoke to my local Audi main stealer at the weekend about coilpacks, and they said only if the vehicle is <3 years old will they do anythign under warranty. There is no special deal for coilpacks, despite how bad they are!!
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    I got my coilpack changed for free, yes. The car was bang on 3 years old
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    Not the cheapest to run (it loves petrol), and bear in mind due to the latest revisions of the car tax system, it will fall into the new top band M (for planet-Murderer?!), which means annual VED of £450.


    Its my understanding of the new VED rules that the top co2 cars registered after 2001 and up to 2006 will be £210 annually and the new higher road tax will be for cars registerd after March 2006.

    http://www.direct.gov.uk
    Petrol car (TC48) and diesel car (TC49)
    Band
    CO2 emission (g/km)
    12 months rate
    6 months rate
    A
    Up to 100
    Not applicable
    Not applicable
    B
    101-120
    £35.00
    Not applicable
    C
    121-150
    £120.00
    £66.00
    D
    151-165
    £145.00
    £79.75
    E
    166-185
    £170.00
    £93.50
    F
    Over 185
    £210.00
    £115.50
    G
    Over 225 – for cars registered on or after 23/03/06
    £400.00
    £220.00

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    [Apr 30, 2008]
    Check this out too

    http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=25405

    Audi A4 Avant (01-04)
    3.0 quattro Sport 5d (6)

    Rates effective from 13 March 2008
    12 Months BandF
    £210.00
    Rates effective from March 2009
    12 Months BandM
    £440.00
    Rates effective from March 2010
    12 Months BandM
    £455.00
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    [Apr 30, 2008]
    Should've known
    sounded to good to be true

    Danny
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    I know it totally bites doesn't it.
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