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2010 A3 retro to Bi Xenon

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    [Jun 16, 2011]
    hey all, im new here and i own a 2010 Audi A3 1.8T.
    im looking for some help on retrfitiing my car from H7 to bi xenon's , ive already baught the whole headlight DRL, D3s Kit with bulbs and Oem blasts the only thing missing is the CECM module.
    as i was searching the forum, and across the web i found that kufatec is offering a module on there site that is described as "Control unit needed for the OEM retrofitting of Xenon headlights - Audi A3 8P from model year 2010".

    if somone can help a bit on this issute i would be greatfull, as i know i need a control module G (8P0 907 279) but that is all i know.
    thanx
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    UK based?
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    you would only need the adapters afaik... wire them in and then code the car to accept the bi-xenon... done it on my car last month but mine is a 2005.
    You would need to check your central electronics module version to make sure that you have a version that would accept the bi-xenon headlights.
    not too hard at all
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    NHN, im from israel.

    and itwasme: i have 2010 car i know its different since the 2010 modles have a different CECM module for cars with bixenon and ones with halogen.

    about the coding i have the offical dealership heling me coding and installing i just need all the parts, and thats my question what do i need and where can i get it from ?
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    Headlights (with bulbs and ballasts), adapter loom, and if needed after checking the Central Electronic Module (CEM). I had halogens on my car but i did not need a new CEM as my one is a highline and fully bi-xenon compatible
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    As you're from israel not sure the leveling system & washers are a legal requirement, they will be here soon, but your part number is way of, as your year changed to an all in one CE & Convenience module in 09 & you may find you already have the compatible module for these lights, I suggest you get it scanned to check the version you have before buying anything else.

    I'm somewhat surprised if you're getting an audi dealer to help you, why you need to ask our help, surely they know the cars extremely well over there as they're afterall a vag dealer or did I miss the boat here?
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    well :) its a bit wierd cuz none had ever done something similler halogen to bi xenon. i went to a local shop and they said i need the new CECM and what they found out is that i need the new module. i wanted to ask on this forum what will i need or exactlly what part and where to get it from. the offical dealership doesnt know how to retro or even change the vagcom settings so if you could help and tell me how and ill print it over and give it to them.

    maby ill take a picture of what i have , that could help a bit.
    about the washer system i dont need it and also auto leveling - i only want the bixenon's to work.
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    You need to scan the car & provide the log of the CE module which is usually module 09 when using vcds or vas diag machine, a picture isnt good enough.
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    Ok I'll do that . I just saw se number part is 8P0907063A . I'll scan it today and write it down
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    Ok so that has got what we need, I would login with vcds & see if the label file allows coding for bixenon.
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    [Jun 19, 2011]
    Sorry to thread jack but I'm doing the same thing here. I have a 2009 TFSI A3 here in the States and I got all the items except for the wiring loom. So I'm assuming once I get that it's just a matter of getting the front bumper off, installing the housings with all the gear, wiring in the adapter to EU and making VAG-COM adjustments. My next question is if want to add the auto-leveling after converting, is that going to be a problem or should I just wait to do the conversion until I can get all the auto-leveling gear?
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    first of all ive got the cable and the VCS program. after installing and connecting it to the car i encounter to a weird error - it doesn't let me go into "09 Central Elec", it says a weird error! all other models are ok and i can see them well , and even run the a check, so somone has a sulotion to this issue ? :uhm:
    the good news is that i have the part number of the model by taking a picture under the steering wheel. the part number is :"8PO 907 063 A" manufactured 09.09.09 so maybe you could give me a bit info on by the part number.
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    im uploading a few pics to show you the items ive collected so far to retro the headlights for bi xenon. and the cable pic , that maybe you could help me know what i cant connect the electric model though it doesn't show any error on the model.

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    1st of all is it a genuine interface or counterfeit, 2nd without showing the weird error, we cant advise any further.
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    pic of lead says vag106 so i'm assuming it's a clone & perhaps too out of date to read the newer style module?
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    It's not a genuine cable but it's rhe newest model. I saw on Ross tech site that it's a known problem and I'll try to do what they offer for a sulotion tomorrow .
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    they will not offer any help on cloned leads as the are illegal copies, all they will suggest is buy an original one.
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    ive finally done it! successfully connected the pc to the car. well the 09 Cen result is:

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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 8P0-907-063.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 A HW: 8P0 907 063 A
    Component: BCM PQ35 M 105 0563
    Revision: 00105 AI
    Coding: 06000A2FB0051A00207240E00000014C411A24AA104DC929E40008800040
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 326018969275778C

    Part No SW: 8P1 955 119 F HW: 8P1 955 119 F
    Component: Wischer AU350 H10 0040
    Coding: 00DD13

    No fault code found.


    so the big question is ? is it ok to retro bi-xenons:uhm::uhm:?
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    after connecting, didnt you go in to the long coding to check the coding to see if there was a box for bi-xenon you could tick?
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    yea i did, there are a couple of options i could click to activate bi xenon in a few bytes when running threw them with the down arrow.my question is , if i have the option available on clicking , does it mean for sure i can install safely my headlights at last?
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    im adding the full scan with the new cable .


    Thursday,23,June,2011,21:31:21:36891
    VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4 (x64)
    Data version: 20110418



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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 47 52 56 6C 77

    VIN: WAUZZZ8P9AA057681 Mileage: 42010km/26103miles

    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CDA) Labels: 06J-907-115-CDA.clb
    Part No SW: 8P7 907 115 L HW: 8P0 907 115 Q
    Component: 1.8l R4/4V TFSI 0030
    Revision: AAH07--- Serial number: AUX7Z0I8FNB0GL
    Coding: 0103000C24070160
    Shop #: WSC 00191 264 15243
    VCID: 42A59B0A641F

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-300-04x.lbl
    Part No SW: 0AM 300 048 M HW: 0AM 927 769 D
    Component: GSG DSG AG7 402 0011
    Revision: 00040024 Serial number: 00000909091264
    Coding: 0000020
    Shop #: WSC 00057 730 92017
    VCID: 3A55E3EA0CCF

    1 Fault Found:
    006298 - Clutch 1: Clearance too Small
    P189A - 000 - - - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100000
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 2
    Reset counter: 10
    Mileage: 41654 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.06.21
    Time: 14:00:11


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AP HW: 1K0 907 379 AP
    Component: ESP MK60EC1 H45 0107
    Revision: 00H45001
    Coding: 1142401209270001881102EC901A00413900
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 8021D102AA93

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 BK HW: 8P0 820 043 BK
    Component: KlimavollautomatH09 0140
    Revision: 000698 Serial number: 8P0820043BK
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 76CD37DA7857

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 8P0-907-063.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 A HW: 8P0 907 063 A
    Component: BCM PQ35 M 105 0563
    Revision: 00105 AI
    Coding: 06000A2FB0051A00207240E00000014C411A24AA104DC929E40008800040
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3245CBCAD4BF

    Part No SW: 8P1 955 119 F HW: 8P1 955 119 F
    Component: Wischer AU350 H10 0040
    Coding: 00DD13

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 8P0-959-655-10.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 P HW: 8P0 959 655 P
    Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0160
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 003FB002Z7K7
    Coding: 303142413039303030344A55304C38503053
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
    ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
    VCID: 4F83A23EA74D

    Driver's Airbag Crash Sensor:
    Serial number: 34928RB400004F9E21F%

    Passenger Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
    Serial number: 35028RB400004F9E569-

    Driver's Rear Airbag Crash Sensor:
    Serial number: 35128RB400004F9DD91$

    Passenger's Rear Airbag Crash Sensor:
    Serial number: 35228RB400004F9E573X

    Driver's Front Airbag Crash Sensor:
    Serial number: 35547RB400005041C1EH

    Passenger's Front Airbag Crash Sensor:
    Serial number: 35647RB400005041BCBP

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 K HW: 8P0 953 549 K
    Component: J0527 H37 0070
    Coding: 0012142
    Shop #: WSC 00008 730 92157
    VCID: 46AD871A4837

    Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Component: E0221 H02 0030

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 932 D HW: 8P0 920 932 D
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H03 0980
    Revision: D0H03003 Serial number: 2248I003003525
    Coding: 0000128
    Shop #: WSC 00047 730 55007
    VCID: 354FF0D625D1

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AA HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: J533 Gateway H16 5223
    Revision: H16 Serial number: 4120K099150D04
    Coding: ED801F06504602000100
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 66ED679A28F7

    1 Fault Found:
    02873 - Control Module for Back-Up Camera (J772)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100100
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 209
    Mileage: 41600 km
    Time Indication: 0


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 932 D HW: 8P0 920 932 D
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H03 0980
    Revision: D0H03003 Serial number: AUX7Z0I8FNB0GL
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 354FF0D625D1

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 S HW: 8P0 035 192 S
    Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H76 0650
    Revision: 03S Serial number: AUZBZ8S3245544
    Coding: 0205757
    Shop #: WSC 50059 143 40693
    VCID: 3FA392FE17ED

    4 Faults Found:
    00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)
    011 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 111
    Mileage: 38513 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.11
    Time: 12:27:39

    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 42010 km
    Count: 2306
    Clock: 20:28

    02261 - Data Medium
    014 - Defective - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00111110
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 230
    Mileage: 40826 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.06.12
    Time: 21:45:23

    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 40820 km
    Count: 1206
    Clock: 21:47

    00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
    007 - Short to Ground
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100111
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 111
    Mileage: 38513 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.11
    Time: 12:27:49

    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 38510 km
    Count: 1105
    Clock: 12:27

    00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 111
    Mileage: 38513 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.11
    Time: 12:28:29


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 N HW: 8P0 959 801 N
    Component: Tuer-SG H04 0100
    Coding: 0000020
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 46AD871A4837

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
    Part No: 1K0 909 144 H
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 232 2901
    Revision: 00H17000
    Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
    VCID: 2F43C2BEC78D

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P3 035 382 E HW: 8P3 035 382 E
    Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH31 0160
    Revision: 00007 Serial number: 92157948677601
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 354FF0D625D1

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 N HW: 8P0 959 802 N
    Component: Tuer-SG H04 0100
    Coding: 0000020
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 47B38A1E4F3D

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 S HW: 8P0 035 192 S
    Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H76 0650
    Revision: 03S Serial number: AUZBZ8S3245544
    Coding: 0205757
    Shop #: WSC 50059 143 40693
    VCID: 3FA392FE17ED

    4 Faults Found:
    00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)
    011 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 111
    Mileage: 38513 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.11
    Time: 12:27:39

    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 42010 km
    Count: 2306
    Clock: 20:28

    02261 - Data Medium
    014 - Defective - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00111110
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 230
    Mileage: 40826 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.06.12
    Time: 21:45:23

    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 40820 km
    Count: 1206
    Clock: 21:47

    00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
    007 - Short to Ground
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100111
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 111
    Mileage: 38513 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.11
    Time: 12:27:49

    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 38510 km
    Count: 1105
    Clock: 12:27

    00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100100
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 111
    Mileage: 38513 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.11
    Time: 12:28:29


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.
    Cannot be reached

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 AA HW: 8P0 862 335 S
    Component: FSE_256x BT H38 0600
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005174016
    Coding: 0011222
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 75CF30D66551

    No fault code found.

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    [Jun 24, 2011]
    ive checked a recommendation by a friend who said i need to mark the "v" for all bi xenon options and look if its will allow me , well it does so i hope it marks a good sign , another thing is after reading across the web i have noticed that maybe the project could work but if i wont have the high-line model i wont be able to have "high beam" , as for the headlights they will work . is that true ?
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    The difference is that on normal halogen or basic xenon, the main beam is a bulb where on the bi-xenons there is no actual different bulb, its a shutter that moves & deflects the beams but it will work.
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    so let me get this , your saying that for sure my 09 module can stand the upgrade for bi xenon? u dont need to change anything ?
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    you would need to install and fit the cables with the extra wires on the adapters to the pins on the CE module. then code the car to Bi-xenon
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    [Aug 24, 2011]
    Did this ever work out for you? I have a 2009 A3 that I just got done sourcing all the parts for this conversion. I'm very interested in knowing what you had to go through to get it totally done.

    NHN, if you read this, I was wondering if there was any specifics I should know before doing this retrofit? One of the four wires going back to the CE module from the Kufatec harness has a larger pin. I hope this is normal...It would be nice to have someone like you over here in the states cause i'd just let you handle the whole thing...
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    any help out there?
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    As long as you got the correct harness from kufatec (there is a specific harness for facelift cars) then the larger pin should be fine. I cannot confirm 100% as I have not used the facelift harness though I have not yet seen a kufatec harness that has come with the wrong pins. Nigel has his reasons for not liking the kufatec cables so asking him to check that won't get you far unfortunately. :friends:
    If you have the correct headlights and kufa wires and have already checked that you have the correct CE module that will support the use of bi-xenon then you should only require to fit and code to complete the install.
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    Yeap larger pin is possible as not all are the same, which pisses me of but alas, cant all have same rating.

    Hey pay me to come there & I'd do the lot, simples :)

    Unfortunately I've seen some incorrectly wired directly from kufacrap, plus the support sucked which led me to not use them again, albeit this was few years back, but never felt the need to return, others may have been successful, but I tend to properly wire, not use adapters (except on an iso to quadlock), nothing beats soldering, heatshrink, job done :)
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    if I need another bigger sized pin for the Kufatec harness to go into the CE, what's the part number for the repair wire that has the larger size?
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    Hi friends,I installed using adapter Led bi-xenon lights. When I coded LED lights illuminate the rear stop light. Please advise me. Coding: 46000A2FA0051A00207240E00000894C42162BAA004DC12AE4008F840041Listing of VCDS.00984 - Left Tail Light (M4) 010 - Open or Short to Plus Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01101010 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 42 Mileage: 89231 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2013.04.04 Time: 20:24:50 Freeze Frame: Term 15 On Voltage: 12.35 V ON ON Term 50 On OFF OFF 00985 - Right Tail Light (M2) 010 - Open or Short to Plus Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01101010 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 42 Mileage: 89231 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2013.04.04 Time: 20:24:50 Freeze Frame: Term 15 On Voltage: 12.35 V ON ON Term 50 On OFF OFF
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