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Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by W8 Performance, Feb 6, 2005.

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    This might be a really stupid question to ask, but why does my engine cover have 5 valve on it and my mates ibiza cupra have 20 valve on it when they are supposed to be the same engine? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/noidea.gif

    I have my hands over my head preparing for the onslaught of abuse... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

    Could someone please enlighten me with an explanation? Have I got the wrong engine cover or is it really true?

    Mine is a 1.8T Quattro 180bhp. His is also a 1.8T now revo'd to 212bhp.

    Cheers

    Rob
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    5 valves per cylinder, 4 x 5 = 20 valves total! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ok.gif
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    Now I can put an end to the mocking. All I have to do is chip it now so he can get a good look at the badges on the bumper round the roundabouts and up the sliproads! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/froggie_red.gif

    Feel a little silly, but will sleep soundly now I know what it means.

    Cheers Jojo /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jump.gif
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    i have 5 valve on mine. but mine is a 1.8 t. is mine a 5 valve?
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    All the 1.8T VAG units are 20v. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ok.gif
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    Its a 20v engine, with 5 valves per cylinder. Some call it 5v (audi, VW) and some call it 20v (Seat)... Its exactly the same thing, just different way of saying it!

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    It would be very interesting how they would manage to get 5 valves to 4 cylinders.

    5 valves / 4 cylinders = 1.25 valves/cyl

    Now thats what i call german engineering. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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    It's amazing what you can learn. I just about managed to get the key in the hole must days. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_2.gif
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Also the fiat coupe 20v Turbo and non turbos

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    Had a 20vTurbo plus before the S3, lovely engine and the rest was surprisingly well built for something italian.

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    Those coupes are staggeringly quick my mate has one and has done 160 in it....obviously he has done a few mods /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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    Those coupes are staggeringly quick my mate has one and has done 160 in it....obviously he has done a few mods /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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    Mine was far from standard too /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

    ..would tear the S3 a new one past 80 I'm sad to say - gearing on those things is perfect for the 50-120 push.

    0-100 is ~14.5seconds standard.

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    I had a scary moment in one of those through some country lanes. I was only out in it to listen to a professional stero install in it and the looney took me for a flat out run through some lanes. Was really quick and very scary.
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    Yeah they are scarey to be in when the wrong drivers behind the wheel....my mate has stacked his enough times and blown the engine loads of times then rebuilds it.....so i have only been in the car a couple of times with him...i value my life /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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    I was foolish enough to do it all over again when he came down in an impreza!!! Luckily we got stuck behind someone after a few miles.
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    he he Rob your a glutton for punishment....or just a thrill seeker /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked2.gif
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    White nuckles and brown pants all the way. Might start a thread 'my mates got a...' or 'The quickest car I've been in..'
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    Come on Ess_Three go easy on me. It has taken me since November to work out how to open the bonnet!
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    ESS /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif
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    hes getting worse than me!
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    and I cant stress the word "worse" enough!
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    I dont think Santa brought Ess_Three any presents and that is why he is in such as bad mood this year!
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    didnt he buy him a car? A nice one at that?
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    This might be a really stupid question to ask, but why does my engine cover have 5 valve on it and my mates ibiza cupra have 20 valve on it when they are supposed to be the same engine? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/noidea.gif


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    That's easy to answer...

    VAG figure that your average Audi owner can understand that the car has 5 valves per cylinder and 4 cylinders...and do the maths and correctly come up with 20.

    SEAT owners are a different breed. They need telling the answer is 20! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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    /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bravo.gif
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    Thats ganging up on me now! Knew I was letting myself in for it though so fair play.
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    Yeah sounds it i wish i was loaded too... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif
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    Yeah sounds it i wish i was loaded too... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif

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    Not a case of being loaded...more a case of working out how important it is...and what you can afford to give up / do without in order to obtain one.

    I'm an ordinary working bloke, just like the rest...
    I just have more items on the 'sacrafice' list than most...and a 911 in the garage. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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    I'm an ordinary working bloke, just like the rest...
    I just have more items on the 'sacrafice' list than most...and a 911 in the garage. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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    Yeah fair enough point taken but i still dont think if i sacrificed everything i could still afford one.....must push for that payrise! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif
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    you could allways sacrafice your house and get a caravan cj! hehe /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif
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    And have a fiat multipla to tow your mobile home and trailer with 911 on. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif
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