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140 bhp / 170bhp ?

Discussion in 'A3/S3/Sportback (8P Chassis)' started by herrmax, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. herrmax
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    [Jul 25, 2011]
    So whats the difference between the 140 and the 170 diesel engine ?
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    [Jul 25, 2011]
    ones got more power lol
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    [Jul 25, 2011]
    170 has DPF
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    [Jul 25, 2011]
    Turbos are the same size but slightly different design
    Injectors are different
    DPF as N8 said
    Cams are slightly different

    Also powaaa!

    A3 Sportback 2.0 tdi 140 0-60 9.6
    A3 Sportback 2.0 tdi 170 0-60 8.1
    A3 2.0 tdi 140 0-60 9.4
    A3 2.0 tdi 170 0-60 8.0

    Hope this helps! :icon_thumright:
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    [Jul 25, 2011]
    170 feels more alive. 140 dies abit high end. as mentioned dpf in 170 can be a pain in the bum if it wants to be. also injector issues sometimes however vosa sort it out now?
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    [Jul 25, 2011]
    140 is NOTHING without a map :wub:
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    Get the 140 for cheep tax and spend the difference on a map to 180bhp and have the best of both worlds.
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    [Jul 25, 2011]
    That is the exact logic I had when I ordered my 140!
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    Difference in drivability too. 170 feels a bit gutless at low revs setting off from a standstill. Almost like the turbo feels bigger and takes a moment longer to spool up. Just my tuppence worth!
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    Sorry to high jack but how much would you expect to pay on a decent all round map i.e power/torque gains and keeping/gaining decent economy? Am I right in thinking you can get a plug and play removable unit or a ECU remap? Is there much difference?
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    180ish bhp and 300ft-lb, improved MPG and yes you can get a plug and play unit. Shark Performance do the STS, thats who I would recommend.
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    No truer words have ever been wrote!
    My 170 feels like this and it's the only thing that let's it down, trying to get a quick getaway and then it bogs down till the turbo eventually spools up :'(
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    I don't regret buying my 140 at all, its perfect power for day to day use, well for me anyway.
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    Yep but once it's spooled up God it hammers through the gears like a mad dog chasing his last meal.:laugh:
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    [Jul 26, 2011]
    Especially with a cheeky remap :racer:
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    [Jul 26, 2011]
    been wanting to get my 140 mapped for a few months now... just worried for its turbo and recently its been feeling a little dull on gears 1 and 2, like its too tired to go anywhere... but its still a cracking car!
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    Whoever maps your car should do a pre-diagnostic check to ensure everything is spot on :)
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    You'd hope so!
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    I was being polite. I've heard some horror stories over the years :tapedshut:
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    [Jul 26, 2011]
    well i was thinking of just getting the turbo cleaned anyway... the car just past 130k so i would think its time for a good ol clean... the drive is still great tho even at that mileage... had my GF's mates in my car the other day and he was saying how its such a smooth ride... when i told him the mileage he was shocked and started asking details on what to look for when buying an A3!
    Audis sell themselves really :wub:
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    Couple of hundred cleaning the turbo now is a worthwhile investment as opposed to a complete refurb / replacement :)
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    [Jul 26, 2011]
    The new 170's are in the same tax band as the 140DSG. (the manual 140 is still cheap)

    I originally ordered a 140 but after driving my dads I felt the need for more top end poke. This coupled with the cheaper tax than I had realised was a bonus so I've changed my order! (I had a 170 Leon prior to ordering my A3).
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    [Jul 27, 2011]
    Lots of pillocks about
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    i love my 170. i know what you mean when you first set off but going through the gears it is great. i hunk i like 4th the best. but one word of advice. you use a LOT of diesel when you are going very fast. (140 mph) not that i would know:no:
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