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1.8TFSI - awful lag

bobwilson Mar 8, 2013

  1. markwiggy

    markwiggy Third Gear

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    I remember back in 2005 when I ordered my 8P 2.0t Quattro, the dealer only had a S-tronic 2WD version to test drive, the hesitation was very apparent in this car. I ordered the manual version and there was no problem.The problem is purely with the S-Tronic gearbox, so the 18tfsi manual will be fine I am sure.

    Mark
     
  2. 97catalunya

    97catalunya Active Member

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    Does the new Quattro have the same issue?
     
  3. markwiggy

    markwiggy Third Gear

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    if its S-tronic I would say yes.

    Mark
     
  4. Gazzz

    Gazzz Member

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    Not necessarily. The quattro version uses a 6 speed (presumably wet clutch) S-tronic rather than the 7 speed (dry clutch) one.

    I know somebody with a VW with the 7 speed dry clutch and he's had to have the clutch pack replaced at around 3 years old, and this is a common problem apparently. It makes me wonder if they're trying to get around this issue in software, by making the box be more careful when engaging 1st gear - a side effect being that there's a delay in engagement. That's pure guesswork on my part though, so please dont take it as fact
     
  5. 97catalunya

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    Hmm maybe I need to find a dealer with a 1.8 S-Tronic I can take for a test drive. I guess it must be the same on the 1.8 A4 auto? Although saying that I see they call it Multitronic ont the 1.8 and S-Tronic on the 2ltr. So is it fitted with a different gearbox?
     
  6. Chelmersteve

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    The A4 doesn't have S-tronic. Multitronic is a continuously variable transmission.
    I've had 4 S-tronic Audis now - 2 with 6 speed wet and 2 with 7 speed dry boxes and have never noticed any of this so called 'lag.'
    It's down to the way you drive it and in my view a short test drive will not give a true impression.
    Drive Select also has a bearing because in Auto it has to adapt to your driving style and that doesn't happen instantly.
     
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  8. JohnM100

    JohnM100 #teamSepang VCDS Map User Gold Supporter

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    I test drove a manual 1.8T - no lag whatsoever of the type described here by the OP.

    I also test drove a 1.8T S-tronic and did notice a lag when pulling out of a junction or joining a roundabout from stationary. It was in dynamic mode.

    I would need longer with the car to learn how to adapt my style to minimise the lag. Have heard that a double-tap then feather of the throttle is a technique as a workaround.

    However as I didn't try a 1.4 then can't compare across engines both with S-Tronic.
     
  9. 97catalunya

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    Ahh this makes perfect sense! Whoever gets to take the demo car home of an evening has prob been ordered to drive like Miss Daisy in Eco mode to make sure the fuel computer reads a high MPG to the customer.

    Talking to a friend of mine that has a self adapting gearbox in his car said after his wife has been driving it the characteristics change and it becomes far less responsive for half an hour or so until it re adapts to his driving style.

    Ching.... The penny has just dropped! So maybe if someone with this setup wants a good excuse to go out and rag it about for a while in dynamic mode perhaps this will answer the question? ;-)
     
  10. hittchy

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    Many of the A4 models have S-Tronic, although its a slightly different box due to a longitudinal engine layout. Some models are also fitted with the CVT box. It all depends on the engine combination.
     

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