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So after many months of procrastination, my car has trustfully been handed over to Mark @ Backdraft.
The car was taken to BD on sunday (9th Feb), with a planned completion date of 23rd Feb.

Work to be done:
- GT28RS (325bhp) turbo kit (garret turbo, turbo pipe, inlet manifold, downpipe, sports cat)
- Forge Front mount cooler
- Brembo GT brakes front
- EBC disc + pads rear
- Forge DV
- Pipercross filter
- Spa boost gauge
- Custom map at Revo (Banbury)

Just waiting for my first update from Mark. Fingers crossed.
 
Another to the BT Club!

Post the graph when you get it!

Loads of people on here say Revo is too aggressive? I cant see how that's a bad thing but let us know how it goes!

J
 
I have heard the same about Revo.
Mark tells me that Revo themselves will be doing the mapping on the car. I'm hoping that it will be sensibly mapped.

I don't know if I'll get a graph. But yes, shall show you guys if I do... (for all its worth).

The cost for the whole lot is considerably more than the £4k most people estimate. Around £7.6k. Hopefully their won't be any surprises in the bill at the end.
 
Jesus for that amount I'd at least want my power graph in a 18carat gold frame...btw I'm with Dave B on his same sentiment..
 
glen_jai said:
The cost for the whole lot is considerably more than the £4k most people estimate. Around £7.6k. Hopefully their won't be any surprises in the bill at the end.
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Sell your car, take the money from that and the £7.6k your planning to spend and buy a car that doesnt need all that work doing to it to make it go fast...

IMHO.
 
unkle said:
Sell your car, take the money from that and the £7.6k your planning to spend and buy a car that doesnt need all that work doing to it to make it go fast...

IMHO.
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Wise words... so you have any good suggestions on a £17k car that has the same/similar build quality, class, interior design, along with the performance of an upgraded S3?

If you're talking Evo/Scooby... forget it. M3 possible, but image sucks.
The M3 CSL which I like a lot is about £30k.
 
325bhp after the work? Thats about 60-70 odd over a remap of a standard car...


What sort of performance would that give - 5 sec to sixty and in gear performance to match porsches ?? Any ideas?


Good luck with the project mate..:arco:
 
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Is it 325 with the bigger turbo, then its mapped to more bhp? For that kinda money i'd be looking for a true nutter mobile!
be sure to post pics and updates fella, welcome to the longest 2 weeks and wait of your life lol!
 
Stock clutch......??

Not sure that is a good idea, to get the best of the BT torque you could do with a sachs in there.
 
7.5k is well expensive IMO, you would expect internals with that and a new clutch and flywheel, thats one of the reasons i get my couson to do all my work, is because there are to many companies that charge stupid money for big turbo, i am building a 470-500bhp engine, and that should be costing me less than that to build.
 
nick-barnes07 said:
7.5k is well expensive IMO, you would expect internals with that and a new clutch and flywheel, thats one of the reasons i get my couson to do all my work, is because there are to many companies that charge stupid money for big turbo, i am building a 470-500bhp engine, and that should be costing me less than that to build.
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You're right... it is a lot of dough. That's the penalty for having no mechanical know-how and time to carry out the work myself.
Not everyone is as lucky as yourself to have a cousin with those skills.

Hopefully, paying a professional to do the work means it'll be done flawlessly.
 
i dont think it will be as fast as you think, trust me Ive had it done and i was a little disappointed! Maybe i just need to go in a remapped one again and see the difference!
 
glen_jai said:
Wise words... so you have any good suggestions on a £17k car that has the same/similar build quality, class, interior design, along with the performance of an upgraded S3?

If you're talking Evo/Scooby... forget it. M3 possible, but image sucks.
The M3 CSL which I like a lot is about £30k.
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Caterham.

Build quality itself can be as bad or as good as you like, 17K would buy a great one.
Interior build quality is a misnomer really, as its as bad or as good as you make it.
And it'll WAY outperform an upgraded S3 in every respect, except rear passengers and speed bumps!
 
Dave a caterham is a completely different car than the s3! would you really want to drive one to work everyday?
 
Dave_Bayern said:
Caterham.

Build quality itself can be as bad or as good as you like, 17K would buy a great one.
Interior build quality is a misnomer really, as its as bad or as good as you make it.
And it'll WAY outperform an upgraded S3 in every respect, except rear passengers and speed bumps!
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Cheers for the suggestion.

I do like Caterhams, Elise's etc.... Real driving machines.:yes:

But to me, a car has to be a car. Not just a frame with 2 seats. I want to be able to carry more than a packet of cigarettes in the boot if need be, and travel through stormy weather (we are in UK don't forget), without getting soaked, and carry other passengers.

Trouble with a Caterham is that is has all the drawbacks of a motorbike, and non of the benefits.

You get wet in the rain, and you're exposed. You have no luxuries or storage. But you can't filter through traffic jams or park for free.

I see Caterhams as machines with "near "motorbike performance for those that don't ride.

I'll stick with my yamaha for those kind of thrills I think. Does it all better, is more thrilling and for less money... It's perfect for commuting to work every day in. Fast, fun, great mpg...

My car needs to do long journies with comfort....

Any more suggestions?
 
My mate builds supercharged Polo's that will run 13's if you can put all the power down!!
Proper sleeper cars, looks like an old Polo GT coupe, with a G40 'charger, toothed belts, looking at around 165bhp, BUT cos they are so light they fly!
Bit scary to be in, and not that nice-a-car, but could build one for alot less than what you are spending on the BT, alot less.
Im looking at one for the summer!
 
Really, you're looking at a 7.6K budget, which within those constraints, there isnt many other options.

Personally I think you're mad to spend essentially bike money on making a mediocre car a little bit better.

Spend twice that and you get a car more than twice as good, such as your RS4's and the like.

You already have the bike for proper speed.
 
Just had a look, you can get Subaru WRX's for 3K, you could buy two, and both would handle shitloads better than your S3 ever would.

Theres a couple BMW M5's for 8K, 350Bhp and again, handle much better than an S3 ever will.

In fact, theres your answer.

Better build quality, better handling, same 'class' and actually is RWD.

8K could have you an M5 instead.
 
glen_jai said:
Wise words... so you have any good suggestions on a £17k car that has the same/similar build quality, class, interior design, along with the performance of an upgraded S3?

If you're talking Evo/Scooby... forget it. M3 possible, but image sucks.
The M3 CSL which I like a lot is about £30k.
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An RS4 is falling into the 17k bracket now. Ok high miles bur a Revo visit twin turbo's.................wow!
 
Kiteyboy said:
I'm with you chap. You are taking a great car and making it better....I've been looking at Backdraft and JPS....JPS is about £10k all in. Just got to get the brakes / suspension etc sorted and then 2009....BT here I come. I cant wait!

Keep us all updated, and a slap on the back for you for doing it.:respekt:
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Cheers man. :icon_thumright: I did hum and arrr about it for ages. It was between this or changing my car... Then I just thought... sod it.

I'll keep you updated. Still no news from Mark at Backdraft yet.:ermm:
 
Clearly he has thought about these works for some time and has handed the car over for the work to be carried out - I think people should encourage him on this forum not tell him to get a BMW whatever.....whats going on guys !


As a new owner I have seen loads of threads about there really slow, dont handle, dont brake as standard etc etc - give the car a break folks as I think they are alright as standard tbh - yes they can be improved greatly but they aint really that bad as standard - I had a well prepped 200bhp Corrado G60 that may have been quicker in gear but could not put the power to the ground and as a daily proposition with it's coilovers etc was not a patch on the S3 - The Fiat Coupe 20vT that the mags all raved about was absolute crap compared to the S3 (if you ignored the noise it made and stock accelaration).

Sorry rant over....:hi:
 
I must admit that £17k, add a couple more and say £20k at a stretch, I would be tempted to go B5 RS4, but that's more Hotrod than Sportscar, but it's an R-S-4! at the end of the day, or even a 400BHP E39(?) M5, think they can be had for around £20k these days right?
 
Dave_Bayern said:
Just had a look, you can get Subaru WRX's for 3K, you could buy two, and both would handle shitloads better than your S3 ever would.

Theres a couple BMW M5's for 8K, 350Bhp and again, handle much better than an S3 ever will.

In fact, theres your answer.

Better build quality, better handling, same 'class' and actually is RWD.

8K could have you an M5 instead.
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Hahah.. you make me laugh Dave.

I presume you are talking about the E34 M5 with 340bhp. Have you seen one them lately. They look like an old gangsters car. And weigh almost 1700kg.
Handle better than an S3... ok if you say so.:think:
Better build quality... Really, that's news to me. I thought the opposite was true actually.

As for 3k Scoobies...:wtf: man I'm not even going to go there...
 
Ive been in a old wrx and and bug eye wrx both understeered like ****!! There is no way they could out handle my car as it is! Also some loser in a wrx 05 plate was trying to wined me up the other day by going about 30mph down a dual carriage way, so i went to over take him as i did he put his foot down just as i knew he would and i just drove past him, it looked pretty standard but the look on his face was priceless! He gave up shortly after!
 
edward_harris said:
Ive been in a old wrx and and bug eye wrx both understeered like ****!! There is no way they could out handle my car as it is! Also some loser in a wrx 05 plate was trying to wined me up the other day by going about 30mph down a dual carriage way, so i went to over take him as i did he put his foot down just as i knew he would and i just drove past him, it looked pretty standard but the look on his face was priceless! He gave up shortly after!
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:no:




:racer: GOOOOOO! :bye: :respekt:
 
WRX's are only 220Bhp, but they handle better, there is no contest about that. At least not with sane people.

As for the M5, you're trying to say a 1995 supercar doesnt handle better than your S3. Erm, OK, an ACTUAL 80K car with a V10 engine and 350-400Bhp isnt better than an S3.

Crack pipe needs refilling.
 
Glen, dont worry once yours is done it will be a very very quick road car indeed.
It should be more than a match for the last model M3 and regular 911s in straightline performace, and the handling mods will be a good improvement. I would add an R32 front roll bar and a neuspeed 23mil rear arb to your shopping list to realy help the thing turn in.
 
When was the last time you were on a track Ed? Actually pushing the car to the performance limits?

Aye, thought so. Thats what annoys me about this board, 99% of the people on here havent even driven their car 'properly' hard somewhere like a track, nowhere else will such stresses be evident, and no-where else will failings in the car be so obvious.
 
have you driven both a well sorted s3 and a wrx on the track? you dont need to be on a track to find out a car understeers!
 
Ahahaha, actually YES!

Castle Combe did their first ever racing saloon days with WRX and STI's.

Mind, that was 2004ish, which is coherent with what 8K would get you as far as Subarus go.

My best friend owns an operates a racing instruction firm, so I've had GT3s on the track too.
 
well both the ones ive driven couldn't stay with mine on the bends, it might just be down to the tyres they had?! Whos s3 did you go out in?
 
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