Is this a good deal for a new A4 Avant (TSFI 2.0) Black Edition?

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Hi,

Thinking of upgrading my 13 year old A4 B7 diesel to something newer and with the current £6k discount for any new A4 if you trade in your old diesel banger (Audi diesel scrappage scheme extended until 31/03/18) I thought I'd see what offers I get. This would be for a straight cash purchase. I'm primarily interested in a A4 Avant 2.0 TFSI (190 PS) S-tronic black edition with the only additions metallic paint (glacier white) and main beam assist. Otherwise the black edition pack nicely covers my requirements. :)

First of all i was surprised to hear that drivethedeal and broadspeed online brokers do NOT offer this £6k diesel scrappage scheme offer - despite them also using Audi dealerships. Of the very few online brokers who do offer this, autoebid came out at the best at £27500. However my local dealer (Highland Audi) has quoted £27600 so its a bit of a no brainer as it will save me driving down to W Midlands from Inverness just to save £100 if I went with autoebid's offer (their chosen dealership is somewhere near Birmingham).

Is 27.5k a good deal for this fairly high spec car? My poverty spec A4 2.0 TDI saloon (140 PS) SE cost around £21k back in 2005, so personally i think its a great price considering that car prices in that 18 years have shot up and that I'm getting a far better car (relatively speaking). What do others think?

Cheers
(edit: I meant 2.0 TFSI not 2.0 TSFI lol)
 
psychopomp1 said:
Hi,

Thinking of upgrading my 13 year old A4 B7 diesel to something newer and with the current £6k discount for any new A4 if you trade in your old diesel banger (Audi diesel scrappage scheme extended until 31/03/18) I thought I'd see what offers I get. This would be for a straight cash purchase. I'm primarily interested in a A4 Avant 2.0 TFSI (190 PS) S-tronic black edition with the only additions metallic paint (glacier white) and main beam assist. Otherwise the black edition pack nicely covers my requirements. :)

First of all i was surprised to hear that drivethedeal and broadspeed online brokers do NOT offer this £6k diesel scrappage scheme offer - despite them also using Audi dealerships. Of the very few online brokers who do offer this, autoebid came out at the best at £27500. However my local dealer (Highland Audi) has quoted £27600 so its a bit of a no brainer as it will save me driving down to W Midlands from Inverness just to save £100 if I went with autoebid's offer (their chosen dealership is somewhere near Birmingham).

Is 27.5k a good deal for this fairly high spec car? My poverty spec A4 2.0 TDI saloon (140 PS) SE cost around £21k back in 2005, so personally i think its a great price considering that car prices in that 18 years have shot up and that I'm getting a far better car (relatively speaking). What do others think?

Cheers
(edit: I meant 2.0 TFSI not 2.0 TSFI lol)
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Take your offer to the guys at Highland Audi, they will probably match it. I've done the same as you and collect my 1.4 s-tronic black edition shortly, getting £6k for a 2002 A4 1.9tdi with 180k on the clock is a no brainer. Plus I've got a healthy discount on top. Mine coming from here too - they are pretty competitive.
 
Well that sounds like a bargain. All the paper work I have for a 1.4 petrol, Avant Black Edition with £600 for Paint and £1300 for the Sound and comfort Pack show the car was almost £37K...... granted that's a lease and I'm sure they just move funny money around within Audi but £10K less for a much better engine that sounds like a steal.
I also moved from an older A4. I have had a5 and the previous b8 a4s before but following redundancy I purchased my friends b6 2001 2.0 a4, which will be similar inside to your current car. The move back to a modern car is unbelievable. You'll get the acoustic glass in your Black Edition and you will not hear a thing via that glass. Its great.
 
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If you take Audi Finance you should also qualify for the £3k discount currently on offer. You could then simply pay that off immediately.
 
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Online brokers are not dealerships, thus they cannot offer scrappage schemes, they can only either put you in touch with the dealerships that offer discount. Online brokers do not want you old car that have no value to them as well...
 
Sorry I wasn't very clear - Highland Audi's quote is the most competitive in that i don't have to drive 100s of miles to pick up my car from a W Midlands Audi dealer just to save 100 quid. I live only a few miles from Highland Audi. I may ask Highland Audi to throw in some accessories for free like front & rear boot mats or something similar. But I think an overall saving of approx 10k off the list price is very good. List price is coming in at roughly 39k so won't get stung with the expensive car road tax which applies to car's costing 40k or more (RRP).

Out of interest how much is your A4 Avant costing you after discounts? Do post pics once you've received it, I guess mine will look very similar from the outside.
 
As DohNut says. Find the best online PCP deal (that should get you something approaching 20% off), then get the dealer to match (they will), then introduce the px. Personally, I'd then keep it on PCP (rates are so low and as DohNut says, you get an extra £3k off) with a view to maybe paying the balance at the end, or not.

Edit: If what psychopomp1 says below is true, you may as well ignore what I said :tearsofjoy:
 
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DohNut said:
If you take Audi Finance you should also qualify for the £3k discount currently on offer. You could then simply pay that off immediately.
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Unfortunately dealers will not combine the Audi finance discount with the 6k scrappage discount - its one or the other.

As an example coast2coast's website (one of the few brokers offering the 6k scrappage discount) priced my build at 31k which includes the 3k discount for finance. However if paying by cash, this increases to around 34k but then you're able to get the 6k scrappage discount which takes it to 27-28k. I imagine if going direct to dealers, they would price it similarly.
 
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Don't get hung up on getting £6k for your PX

Get figures for not trading in your car and see what discount you can achieve. Then get a WBAC price for the PX and deduct it from the discounted price.

Compare this withe the £27,600 less £6k and see which is actually cheaper
 
Don't CarWow and co often get about that much off of the price anyway? I'm pretty sure I did.

I take the scrappage deal to mean that they just give the same discount as via CarWow because that is what they can play with in general.

I'd suggest a CarWow quote, and then see what you can get in P/X once you've nailed down the discounted purchase price without it. Might end up with a similar discount plus extra for the p/x.
 
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Don't get hung up on getting £6k for your PX

Get figures for not trading in your car and see what discount you can achieve. Then get a WBAC price for the PX and deduct it from the discounted price.

Compare this withe the £27,600 less £6k and see which is actually cheaper
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Forgetting about the px, drivethedeal have offered me the lowest price at 30.5k which is for a finance offer but i can pay it off within 14 days so is good as a cash purchase. My B7 is hardly worth anything plus the hassle of selling it, i'm not going to bother selling it myself.

Anyway the offer of 27.5k was too good to turn down, its basically more than 10k off list price which is not to be sniffed at. I've placed the order with Highland Audi as I had to hurry up in order to meet the June end deadline for scrappage scheme - vehicle has to be registered by 30th June.

They've emailed me an 8 digit order number but its not showing up on my Audi online account yet. Does it take a few hours or days to show up? Also once a '"build week" is given, is this the week the car gets assembled and after that typically how long does it take to get the car ready for shipping to Blighty?

Cheers
 
Youll need to set up an account here https://www.audi.co.uk/account/ which it looks like you've already done. Mine took several days to appear, they started building the thing a week early and then took about 5 weeks from the start of construction before it actually arrived at the dealer. The train journey to the German coast and then the boat ride took about 3 weeks. You'll be check every day like I was once the process starts! I think its more novelty value than any actual accurate value but its certainly fun.

I was given build week 5, end of Jan, but they started a week early and it arrived at the dealer towards end of Feb with collection/delivery 5th March for me. Each step appears to take a few days on the tracker, apart form the actual transport of the finished car to the UK.
 
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My order took a few days to appear online. My build week was originally beginning of April but then that moved forward to 26th March, however production started this week.

Congrats on the order BTW!
 
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