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I hope this has been covered and someone will say click on this link and stop wasting our time. Not sure if it's an issue or not. Driving car in dynamic at 70 in a straight line using small corrections to stay in a straight line as is the norm for any car. What I feel is as I use small corrections a tight spot then a loose spot very subtle but not there in eco mode. I know these cars steering comes in for a lot of criticism. Anyone felt this or if your out next try and concentrate on corrections see if your steering does it. Bring on the knowlegable crowd.
 
I have this on my car. I had a MK7 Golf GTI performance prior to the S3, and where the Golf was perfectly straight in it's steering, I found myself having to constantly correct the steering in the S3.

At first I thought there was something wrong, but no, it's just the way they are apparently !!

I'm used to it now, but at first it knocked my confidence in the car.
 
I have this on my car. I had a MK7 Golf GTI performance prior to the S3, and where the Golf was perfectly straight in it's steering, I found myself having to constantly correct the steering in the S3.

At first I thought there was something wrong, but no, it's just the way they are apparently !!

I'm used to it now, but at first it knocked my confidence in the car.

Off topic but how does the GTI Performance compare to the S3? I’m very tempted to VR my S3 when I can and buy a 2nd hand GTI, some bargains out there and want to break out of PCP after a long run.
 
Off topic but how does the GTI Performance compare to the S3? I’m very tempted to VR my S3 when I can and buy a 2nd hand GTI, some bargains out there and want to break out of PCP after a long run.

For outright chuckability, the Golf is far superior. It's lighter for a start, and the chassis feels more alive than the S3's. The Performance version comes with a LSD, which does help the cornering, and you can feel it working. The car is far more fun to drive. Would love a go in the Clubsport S car.
Mine just had passive suspension, which was fine for me. Never needed a softer setting, as it was subtle enough for me, and never wanted it to ride harder, and it handled good enough to not warrant another setting.

Other good points? Well, the seats feel better than in the S3. I have the SS in the S3, and had Tartan cloth in the Golf. Better support all round.

Now the bad points.
  • Gearbox. Mine was the manual, and I had loads of bother with it, hence why I sold it within 12 months and lost a fortune.
  • But subjective bad points compared to the S3. Well, the performance in a straight line is evident. Far better overtaking punch in the S3.
  • The fake noise through the stereo with the car in dynamic setting was soo fake it became annoying, so I never had the car in engine sport mode, as you couldn't turn that ***** sound off.
  • The cruise control was too much of a faff on. Unlike the S3, there you simply flick a lever and press set, the Golfs was far too complicated for my liking. Adaptive cruise control. So you had to set it for how far behind the car in front you wanted to be etc. Yes, once set it was great on a motorway, as it slowed down and sped up as the traffic did, but you got to ask, how close to autonomous driving is it getting?
  • Collision assist. Probably the Golf worst feature. while going round roundabouts, if you got close to the car in front, but you knew you were ok (it was turning right as you were going straight on, so avoiding the car in front) it would decide to just hit the brakes. I'd say it's dangerous, as it can upset the balance of the car, by hitting the brakes when you don't expect it too. And you can't switch the f***ing thing off.
  • Traction in the wet is an issue too. Having owned several AWD cars, the jump back into high'ish performance FWD shows what little traction these thing have in the wet. Great on dry roads, but with AWD, you get very used to just flooring it in the wet, and it just goes without fuss.

Would I have another one? Hmm. Maybe if you could turn all the annoying cr@p off, then maybe. But again, once you get used to AWD, FWD seams a set backwards.
 
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For outright chuckability, the Golf is far superior. It's lighter for a start, and the chassis feels more alive than the S3's. The Performance version comes with a LSD, which does help the cornering, and you can feel it working. The car is far more fun to drive. Would love a go in the Clubsport S car.
Mine just had passive suspension, which was fine for me. Never needed a softer setting, as it was subtle enough for me, and never wanted it to ride harder, and it handled good enough to not warrant another setting.

Other good points? Well, the seats feel better than in the S3. I have the SS in the S3, and had Tartan cloth in the Golf. Better support all round.

Now the bad points.
  • Gearbox. Mine was the manual, and I had loads of bother with it, hence why I sold it within 12 months and lost a fortune.
  • But subjective bad points compared to the S3. Well, the performance in a straight line is evident. Far better overtaking punch in the S3.
  • The fake noise through the stereo with the car in dynamic setting was soo fake it became annoying, so I never had the car in engine sport mode, as you couldn't turn that ***** sound off.
  • The cruise control was too much of a faff on. Unlike the S3, there you simply flick a lever and press set, the Golfs was far too complicated for my liking. Adaptive cruise control. So you had to set it for how far behind the car in front you wanted to be etc. Yes, once set it was great on a motorway, as it slowed down and sped up as the traffic did, but you got to ask, how close to autonomous driving is it getting?
  • Collision assist. Probably the Golf worst feature. while going round roundabouts, if you got close to the car in front, but you knew you were ok (it was turning right as you were going straight on, so avoiding the car in front) it would decide to just hit the brakes. I'd say it's dangerous, as it can upset the balance of the car, by hitting the brakes when you don't expect it too. And you can't switch the f***ing thing off.
  • Traction in the wet is an issue too. Having owned several AWD cars, the jump back into high'ish performance FWD shows what little traction these thing have in the wet. Great on dry roads, but with AWD, you get very used to just flooring it in the wet, and it just goes without fuss.

Would I have another one? Hmm. Maybe if you could turn all the annoying cr@p off, then maybe. But again, once you get used to AWD, FWD seams a set backwards.

Thank you very much for that, I’m torn what to go for next but think this is my last PCP so would rather buy something which still offers performance and don’t mind too much putting the miles on.

Had my S3 for just over a year now, love the power and punch but the handling really annoys me.

With all this snow and driving on farm tracks also contemplating AWD/true 4 x 4 also, decisions decisions.

Thanks again
 
Off topic but how does the GTI Performance compare to the S3? I’m very tempted to VR my S3 when I can and buy a 2nd hand GTI, some bargains out there and want to break out of PCP after a long run.
Never driven one and I may be wrong but there didn’t seem to be too much price difference between a Golf R and the GTI when I was looking on autotrader etc before ordering my S3.

How come you’re thinking of swapping out the S3, I’ve started to get itchy feet too and only had the car 10 months hard to explain really as I don’t dislike the car it does everything well, only downside for me is the engine sound. But I’m all honesty I don’t know what I’d want to buy instead, maybe a TTS or a S5 for that V6...
 
Never driven one and I may be wrong but there didn’t seem to be too much price difference between a Golf R and the GTI when I was looking on autotrader etc before ordering my S3.

How come you’re thinking of swapping out the S3, I’ve started to get itchy feet too and only had the car 10 months hard to explain really as I don’t dislike the car it does everything well, only downside for me is the engine sound. But I’m all honesty I don’t know what I’d want to buy instead, maybe a TTS or a S5 for that V6...

I hadn’t considered an R as a 2nd hand purchase, felt would be too similar to the S3.

I really don’t like the handling of mine, it’s non mag ride so that may make a difference but just feels numb. Also the the lower support from the seats is pretty much non existent, you’d of thought Super Sports would be worth the extra money but they’re really not.

Realistically I have another year to go unless I buy myself out but my mind is set on terminating when I hit the half way mark. Also want to buy rather than PCP this time, so will be after 1/2 year old car to keep for 4/5 years.

I had the the latest shape TT with the 184 Diesel engine, that was a great car, you should definitely test a TTS.
 
I hadn’t considered an R as a 2nd hand purchase, felt would be too similar to the S3.

I really don’t like the handling of mine, it’s non mag ride so that may make a difference but just feels numb. Also the the lower support from the seats is pretty much non existent, you’d of thought Super Sports would be worth the extra money but they’re really not.

Realistically I have another year to go unless I buy myself out but my mind is set on terminating when I hit the half way mark. Also want to buy rather than PCP this time, so will be after 1/2 year old car to keep for 4/5 years.

I had the the latest shape TT with the 184 Diesel engine, that was a great car, you should definitely test a TTS.
I’ve got mag ride on mine so maybe that makes a little difference, think I’d stick with Audi if I could because I like the virtual cockpit etc, agree with you about the SS Seats they’re pretty poor compared to the design in other S cars.

Heard there is going to be a facelift TT and TTS later this year with upgraded engine and interior bits so that may be an option depending on the pricing. Mercedes A class looks like a tech fest but not a fan of 5 doors though :tearsofjoy:
 
I hadn’t considered an R as a 2nd hand purchase, felt would be too similar to the S3.

I really don’t like the handling of mine, it’s non mag ride so that may make a difference but just feels numb. Also the the lower support from the seats is pretty much non existent, you’d of thought Super Sports would be worth the extra money but they’re really not.

Realistically I have another year to go unless I buy myself out but my mind is set on terminating when I hit the half way mark. Also want to buy rather than PCP this time, so will be after 1/2 year old car to keep for 4/5 years.

I had the the latest shape TT with the 184 Diesel engine, that was a great car, you should definitely test a TTS.

The Golf R does handle better than the S3. So would be a better choice. I had just ordered my GTI when the R was announce. TBH, I should have swapped my order, as (as stated) the price difference isn't huge.

The S3 isn't a fun car to drive at all. Great for what it does, and it does it well, but it does feel heavy, and just lacks that thing, that VW seem to be able to get into their Golfs.

Given all the cheap PCP deals on Golf R's that were available, you should be able to pick up a well specced R for a reasonable price, given how many will be available on the second hand market.
 
The Golf R does handle better than the S3. So would be a better choice. I had just ordered my GTI when the R was announce. TBH, I should have swapped my order, as (as stated) the price difference isn't huge.

The S3 isn't a fun car to drive at all. Great for what it does, and it does it well, but it does feel heavy, and just lacks that thing, that VW seem to be able to get into their Golfs.

Given all the cheap PCP deals on Golf R's that were available, you should be able to pick up a well specced R for a reasonable price, given how many will be available on the second hand market.

Definitely something to consider then, I will change my mind weekly until the time comes.
 
Definitely something to consider then, I will change my mind weekly until the time comes.

I'm the same TBH. Have gone from desperately wanting, and nearly ordering an RS3, to wanting the New Megane RS, or the new Fiesta ST. Then going the other way and maybe wanting either a Tiguan R-Line or even the new BMW X3 40M, and the new Up GTI as a run-a-round to replace the Twingo RS.

Decided to hang on to the S3 for at least another year (just renewed my warranty) and wait till there is something I really `want`.

Lifestyle and working from home has effected my car buying tastes to the point where I don't know what I want for the best.
 
I'm the same TBH. Have gone from desperately wanting, and nearly ordering an RS3, to wanting the New Megane RS, or the new Fiesta ST. Then going the other way and maybe wanting either a Tiguan R-Line or even the new BMW X3 40M, and the new Up GTI as a run-a-round to replace the Twingo RS.

Decided to hang on to the S3 for at least another year (just renewed my warranty) and wait till there is something I really `want`.

Lifestyle and working from home has effected my car buying tastes to the point where I don't know what I want for the best.

Had the S3 itch for years and finally got one last year, I liked it a lot but never loved it. For me was a good comprise as drive around 14k miles a year, fast but not too expensive to run.

This car is on a PCP and initially thought it justified the payments but I’m not sure it does any more, so once this deal is up I’m going to get something 2nd hand and run it as long as it lasts.

Mostly thinking Golf GTI or may be even a GTD but would consider an R, along with 4 x 4’s along the likes of a Tiguan or even a pick up although that wouldn’t be great for motorway driving but would suit my girlfriends horses better.
 

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