Audi A4 track project..

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Hey people I have an Audi A4 2.0 tdi 58 plate 2008, I'm looking to transform it into a track car.. but not sure where to start I want to go down the route of bigger turbo intercooler ect but unsure if this can be done on standard running gear? What else would be advised breaks, suspension, clutch ect? The duel mass is ****** on it ATM so advice on what todo with that is needed to, do I convert to a solid fly wheel or? Thanks for your help in advance :)
 
if its a dedicated track car, you really want a petrol engine. Sell the TDI and buy a petrol would be my advice.

TDI's do fine as daily drivers, but their not pleasant to drive "flat out".
 
It's going to be on the road, but use on the track. Not going to be a daily basically.. the reason I decided on the project was because the dual mass **** it's self and seen some videos on tdi's and looked like you could make them fun.. thanks for your advise though :)
 
That's a b7 or b8, is the car fwd or quattro? 6 speed or 5? which bhp model? Whatever the case it can be made into a decent track car... if you have deep pockets, my 1.9tdi has had well over 5k spent in performance parts and labour but will still get shown up by a cheap Subaru on the track, not saying a 2.0tdi can't be made into a track car it's just not the best starting point and the cost for more power will be high compared to other engine's/car's.
 
Its also just the power delivery is all wrong. Diesels excel at low-mid range power, which makes them excellent road cars, as what power they do have is accessible from low RPM's and makes the car feel much perkier than its peak power figure would suggest. On track however you spend almost all your time at high rpms, where diesels tend to feel a bit rubbish (partly because of the small turbo used to give good low-mid characteristics, and partly because diesels just dont breathe that well and dont really like to rev).

Furthermore, because they make so little power, they're all turbocharged from the factory, which initially seems beneficial but has its issues. What i mean by that, is if you have a naturally aspritated 2.0 petrol, it'll easily make 150hp and some factory engines are exceeding 180hp. A turbocharged one will thus easily reach 300-350 with a sensibly sized turbo and non-silly boost pressures, and thus will still drive pretty nicely. A naturally aspirated 2.0 diesel however will make about 70hp, and thus a turbocharged one ends up in the 150hp range while still driving acceptably. If you try to get to 350 in a 2.0 diesel, its sorta like trying to get to 600 in a petrol, and lots of compromises appear.

They also lack throttle response. Even turbo petrols can suffer a bit in this respect. I spent years driving turbo petrols, my current road car A4 1.8T has 280hp, but i recently had a shot of a Clio 172, and while clearly slower than the A4, the throttle response and crispness of how it delivered that power was stunning. I've since driven my dads 4.2 V8 S4, and it too has excellent throttle response compared to the turbo petrol, which is exactly why i'm now part way thru removing the 1.8T from my track car, and fitting a 4.2 V8 instead.

It sounds like a fairly new car thats probably worth a bit of cash. I would be very surprised if you couldnt sell it, and use the cash to buy something much more "fun" both as a weekend road-car and a track toy.
 
Theirs definitely Turbo's which can keep a 2.0tdi in an optimal power band for the track but they'll make it very unresponsive if ever it becomes a road car again (which after all is what smaller engined diesels are made for).
 
Great info people thank you.. looks like she's guna have a dual mass and go on the market
 

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