Things that slightly rankle after 3 years of ownership

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My S3 Saloon has recently had its third birthday, something which was brought into sharp focus by the requirement of an MOT already! This got me thinking that, although I still absolutely love the car, I still find certain things rather annoying, although none of them in themselves would ever be a deal breaker. In no particular order, they are:

* No clock. Yes, I know if I care to activate the MMI screen, I can see the time on there but, after years of cars with clocks of one sort or another, I still really notice that there isn't one in the S3.

* I discovered some time ago, by conducting a simple test on my driveway, that it is possible to open the car boot remotely without unlocking the car doors. If, in a moment of hurried forgetfulness, you temporarily drop your keys onto the boot floor and then close the boot lid - bingo, you're locked out of your car! This really shouldn't be possible.

* Heated door mirrors. Why do we have to turn the little knob to a certain position to allow the mirror elements to come on when the rear window de-mister is activated? They should be wired in such a way that you shouldn't even have to think about it, as in my previous vehicles with this capability.

* Tilting near side door mirror. A very useful device which has saved my alloys from abrasion many a time! However, I believe the driver's side should tilt too, as it's equally crucial to avoid kerbs (for the same reason), but also in car parks it's helpful to be able to see the white lines. I currently always open the door a bit so that I can look down to see how well (or not) that I'm positioned.

* Boost gauge. What is the point of it? What does it tell me? It lights up like a Christmas tree if I accelerate hard in a lower gear, but I know I'm doing that so, I say again - what's the point of it? Far more useful would be the provision of a water temperature gauge .. nearly all cars have one, so why does Audi reckon we don't need one in the S3?

* And finally, the lack of a folding centre arm rest in the back seat is odd for a car of this calibre. My last few cars had one and I found it invaluable as a means of propping up bags of shopping to save them from rolling over when cornering hard. Plus, it's nice for rear passengers to have somewhere to rest their elbow!

Please feel free to weigh in with your thoughts, I'm sure I'm not alone with these little niggles!
 
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* No clock. I never really noticed in my A3 saloon cause I always had the display on.

* It is possible to open the car boot remotely without unlocking the car doors. I believe if you leave the key in the boot it will not lock (haven't had the balls to try it though)

* Heated door mirrors. Agree, connected with the heated rear screen would make sense.

* Tilting near side door mirror. Agree, I sometimes park on the off side.

* Boost gauge. What is the point of it? Never had one.

* And finally, the lack of a folding centre arm rest in the back seat is odd for a car of this calibre. Available with storage pack ????? you know everything over and above engine and doors is an extra.

I traded my A3 saloon for the new A4 and you seem to get more for your money, but generally "small" same issues above with the new A4.
 
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Yes - agree with all these things (except boost - don't have it)

Particularly the clock - you can get it on the DIS, but only in some modes (not with the digital speedo). With dig speedo you can get the date, but not the time! I usually know what day it is, even at my age, but would like the time. It just does not make sense. I have an idea it is different on the FL.
 
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Hmmmmm...my FL S3
I have a clock on the standard DIS
I can not lock my keys if left in either the car or the boot...Advanced key will not allow this
I have a rear centre arm rest.
It all depends on options or packages you purchase.
Good point on heated mirrors, but there are times I only need heated mirrors and it it is not a big deal to turn the knob.
The one thing I love about the 3 series is the availability to let the MMI disappear as I only use it in the up position for google maps which I very rarely use. As soon as I start the car I press the auto start/stop disable and lower the MMI screen. That was one of the reasons I purchased The S3 over the competition with large I Pads stuck in my field of vision
 
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The point about the clock on the dis is - can you have it with digital speedo at the same time.
As far as the mmi is concerned and turning off, what annoys me is that, in order to be able to make calls via Bluetooth the mmi has to be on. So, if you don't want the radio on and the screen showing, you have to lower the screen and mute the radio everytime you start up.
 
clock display on the DIS in digital Speedo mode was rectified on later models hence varying comments. I did not have it on my 2014 2.0 TDI but it was there on my 2016 S3

Not having an automatic wing mirror demister is most annoying
 
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The * button on the steering wheel that sometimes scrolls round the driving modes and sometimes does nothing.
The B&O that loses it's settings.
The daytime running lights that I can't turn off.
The headlamp washers that spray fluid all over freshly cleaned bodywork.
Agree the boost gauge is useless. Should probably be looking elsewhere when it lights up.
 
Although I've not had a PFL I agree with your points as I'd have a very similar view.
Some of the issues appears to have been taken care of in the FL, although I have the VC rather than the analogue dash if that makes a difference.
 
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Had mine 3.5yrs and nothing gets on my goat too badly.
Lack of clock and pressing a button for a specific radio station (can you tell how old I am)......even just 3 buttons to select 1 of 3 presets please.
Boost guage/temp gauge whatever, not interested in seeing either and trust the car to tell me when there is an issue.
Now other cars seem to be keeping their ipads on display all the time thank goodness mine retracts :)

3.5yrs in, not 1 unscheduled visit to a dealer other than annual servicing, nowt wrong. Thought about changing but nothing really comes close for quality/value/performance per £ and cost to change for a new S3/RS3/RS5/M/AMG isn't worth it imo.
 
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The * button on the steering wheel that sometimes scrolls round the driving modes and sometimes does nothing.

You do know you can configure what that button does?

I have mine set to toggle voice navigation directions.
 
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You do know you can configure what that button does?

I have mine set to toggle voice navigation directions.

Yes I did, and I've reset it in the past when it stopped working.
It's not the end of the world and the drive select button isn't that far away but I do use the * button to do this. Some days it works, some days I press the button and it does nothing. The next day it works again.
 
Yes I did, and I've reset it in the past when it stopped working.
It's not the end of the world and the drive select button isn't that far away but I do use the * button to do this. Some days it works, some days I press the button and it does nothing. The next day it works again.
Strange, I have the * mapped to skip to the next track/next station and therefore use it extremely often, never had any problem on the A3/S3.

I agree with some of the OPs points. I don't care about having no clock, the heated door mirrors should just activate though with the misters and yeah the boost gauge is very useless, rather it be oil temperature..
 
Fitted with - Yes, but does the number of post 2011 cars driving around without DRLs suggest that most manufacturers give the option to turn them off?

According to the regs you cant turn them off manually but there is a bit of a get out clause.....

From the gov.uk link

DRL activate automatically when the engine is started and remain on unless the headlamps are switched on. They may however remain off in some low speed and stationary situations....

So this might be the reason you see some post 2011 cars in certain situations with no DRL's
 
Why would anyone want to turn off DRLs. They make your car more visible to other road users and pedestrians.
 
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According to the regs you cant turn them off manually but there is a bit of a get out clause.....

From the gov.uk link

DRL activate automatically when the engine is started and remain on unless the headlamps are switched on. They may however remain off in some low speed and stationary situations....

So this might be the reason you see some post 2011 cars in certain situations with no DRL's

No, it's because many cars which were type approved after Feb 2011, and thus had to have DRLs fitted, still permitted them to be turned off. My A3 8P3 in 2010 allowed this - turning the control to the '0' position turned off the DRLs completely.

A year or two later, this changed so that DRLs could no longer be turned off. The A3 8V I had in 2012 was like this - the DRLs could no longer be turned off and remained lit even if the control was in the '0' position.

Whether this change was as a result of a further change in legislation, I'm not entirely sure, but the above link does suggest that it's currently a legal requirement that DRLs remain on except in limited circumstances.

We've recently seen another change in behaviour from Audi, with the MY18 A3 now using the rear side lights as DRLs, which also remain lit at all times. Again I don't know if this is their choice or pre-emtping an upcoming change in legislation.
 
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Whether this change was as a result of a further change in legislation, I'm not entirely sure, but the above link does suggest that it's currently a legal requirement that DRLs remain on except in limited circumstances.

I think it was because the various car manufacturers tried to second guess the final regs as a design necessity to ensure wiring diagrams etc were locked down at a suitable time in the development cycle so we ended up in the early days with slightly different approaches by the manufactures which then had to be reflected in the legal requirements........chicken and egg styleee
 
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One thing I did find interesting is that the EU directive clearly states that existing lights such as indicators or fogs cannot be "dual purposed" as DRLs.

Audi and some other manufacturers have cleverly turned this on its head by dual purposing the DRLs as indicators :)
 
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Within 3 days of owning the car the lack of storage space in the car started to bug me.

Having to adjust the LH and RH AC temp control individually used to wind me up until I found you could sync them by holding the 'auto' button in.
 
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Why would anyone want to turn off DRLs. They make your car more visible to other road users and pedestrians.
And any opportunist toe rag that may happen to be passing my drive that wouldn't have otherwise noticed the car is defrosting on an icy morning...
 
And any opportunist toe rag that may happen to be passing my drive that wouldn't have otherwise noticed the car is defrosting on an icy morning...
Very good point, I was thinking the exact same thing this morning.
I know it’s not advisable to leave any car unattended with the engine running but sometimes needs must, especially when its ****** freezing !
 
Very good point, I was thinking the exact same thing this morning.
I know it’s not advisable to leave any car unattended with the engine running but sometimes needs must, especially when its ****** freezing !
Better to pour a few jugs of warm water over the car. At least that way no one can just jump in your car and drive it away. Also if you park your can on the drive so that the back is to the road your DRLs will not be visible. In my car the car is in the garage (remember those) so it does not get all frosted up!
 
There's a VCDS option I think so that the 'O' setting turns off the DRLs, I can see why this would be useful in a few occasions.... I often am sitting in a car park with the engine running for heating but have no need for the lights to be on, so this would be useful. But yeah, don't see a reason why it would be wanted when driving!
 
Things that annoy me on my S3 FL...

  • Lack of steering feel (I know they all have it, but it grates on me...)
  • Rattles and odd noises (Not major ones, but I'm one of those people that has an empty car because I hate stuff rattling about...)
  • Lack of bolster support in the SS seats
  • The constant need for the box to change gear at the slightest twitch of the throttle in S7 on the motorway
  • Water getting onto the seats every time you open the door when its been raining
  • Apple car play disappearing when the parking sensors have been activated (new issue)
 
Better to pour a few jugs of warm water over the car. At least that way no one can just jump in your car and drive it away. Also if you park your can on the drive so that the back is to the road your DRLs will not be visible. In my car the car is in the garage (remember those) so it does not get all frosted up!
I always defrost with luke warm water and have the engine running at the same time to clear the inside of the windscreen, it was whilst doing so this morning that I noticed my rear lights were on as well, presumably because I have them set to auto, but it did make me think how noticeable the car was. It even put some of my neighbours outside fairy lights to shame.
As for the garage, yes I remember them and I even have one and it’s a beauty. Unfortunately garages seem to be for kids bikes,toys, trampolines and paddling pools nowadays not cars. This has been mentioned several times in our household but my words of displeasure have fallen mainly on deaf ears. All I can do is wait for the little darlings to grow up and ****** off. My day will come and I will reclaim the garage that is rightfully mine !!
 
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Things that annoy me on my S3 FL...

  • Lack of steering feel (I know they all have it, but it grates on me...)
  • Rattles and odd noises (Not major ones, but I'm one of those people that has an empty car because I hate stuff rattling about...)
  • Lack of bolster support in the SS seats
  • The constant need for the box to change gear at the slightest twitch of the throttle in S7 on the motorway
  • Water getting onto the seats every time you open the door when its been raining
  • Apple car play disappearing when the parking sensors have been activated (new issue)

THIS! And when you switch to efficiency mode to prevent this you have to settle with it going out of gear every time you release the throttle... Seriously Audi?
 
And any opportunist toe rag that may happen to be passing my drive that wouldn't have otherwise noticed the car is defrosting on an icy morning...

Sorry, but if you leave your car running and unattended then you're just asking for it. Your insurance wouldn't pay out either, were the worst to happen.
 
THIS! And when you switch to efficiency mode to prevent this you have to settle with it going out of gear every time you release the throttle... Seriously Audi?

Coasting is deliberately part of the efficiency programme in order to save fuel.

Not sure why you'd be in Sport mode on the motorway anyway. I tend to cruise in Drive and quickly knock it into Sport if I'm about to put my foot down.
 
Oh, and the lethargic throttle response when it's in anything but 'S' mode...
 
I always defrost with luke warm water and have the engine running at the same time to clear the inside of the windscreen, it was whilst doing so this morning that I noticed my rear lights were on as well, presumably because I have them set to auto, but it did make me think how noticeable the car was. It even put some of my neighbours outside fairy lights to shame.
As for the garage, yes I remember them and I even have one and it’s a beauty. Unfortunately garages seem to be for kids bikes,toys, trampolines and paddling pools nowadays not cars. This has been mentioned several times in our household but my words of displeasure have fallen mainly on deaf ears. All I can do is wait for the little darlings to grow up and ****** off. My day will come and I will reclaim the garage that is rightfully mine !!

Your rear lights are not DRL which are front only. Your rear lights are on because your lights are set to Auto. Turn the switch to O and they will go off. I know what you mean about the garage being a storage area. Ever the planners will not take the garage in to account when ensuring that new houses have enough car parking for the size of house. On one site I know of, the two new house do not have garages just parking spaces and the planners have insisted that the builder provides a garden shed for each house for bicycles etc.
 
Coasting is deliberately part of the efficiency programme in order to save fuel.

Not sure why you'd be in Sport mode on the motorway anyway. I tend to cruise in Drive and quickly knock it into Sport if I'm about to put my foot down.

Just saw that Mark_86 was talking about S7 whereas I experience this issue even in comfort mode. I simply think it's too sensitive when you just want to accelerate a little at highway speed and it shifts down from 7th to 6th with anything than a very light touch on the throttle. Then when I switch to efficiency and it stays in 7th gear I can feel that it got plenty of power accelerating from like 80mph to 90mph to make a normal overtaking.
 
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Sorry, but if you leave your car running and unattended then you're just asking for it. Your insurance wouldn't pay out either, were the worst to happen.
Same as if I leave my back door unlocked whilst I'm upstairs and someone spirited in, stole the keys and drove it off.
Why would anyone want to turn off DRLs. They make your car more visible to other road users and pedestrians.
I've defrosted my cars this way for the last 35 years. Far better and safer to drive off in a fully de-iced, fully demisted car IMHO.
A slight rising mist from the exhaust is hardly noticeable and draws far less attention to people driving by than a bright light on each corner saying "I'm unlocked and warming up - come and drive me off".
Fortunately we live in a reasonably quiet, low crime area and we don't even have a footpath outside but did have an attempted break-in for the first time in 20 years whilst an S3 loaner was parked in view of the road a couple of years ago.
I now park behind the hedge out of direct sight from the road.

Not disagreeing with you and it's because of my awareness of the risk of potential theft that it irks me that I can't turn them off in this situation.
 
Some good points here. The biggest annoyance for me is the Audi Drive Select system not remembering the mode you left the car in and reverting to Auto mode (I think) when restarting the car. I understand why Audi has done this, but its still stupid! Also, it kind irritates me that I can't upgrade certain aspects of my car without paying millions of £'s! I had a Scirocco for a while and to update the Sat Nav I just downloaded them off the internet. Audi encrypts every since aspect of the cars electrical system so its much less upgradable.

Regarding the tilting mirror, could you buy a LHD drive mirror and fit it? A LHD drive A3 presumably dips on their passengers side so it would be our drivers side?
 
Some good points here. The biggest annoyance for me is the Audi Drive Select system not remembering the mode you left the car in and reverting to Auto mode (I think) when restarting the car. I understand why Audi has done this, but its still stupid! Also, it kind irritates me that I can't upgrade certain aspects of my car without paying millions of £'s! I had a Scirocco for a while and to update the Sat Nav I just downloaded them off the internet. Audi encrypts every since aspect of the cars electrical system so its much less upgradable.

Regarding the tilting mirror, could you buy a LHD drive mirror and fit it? A LHD drive A3 presumably dips on their passengers side so it would be our drivers side?
Isn't it just the "dynamic" mode that is not remembered? Mine remembers that I'm in efficiency, but I've noticed if it was in dynamic then it would go back to auto.
 
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Isn't it just the "dynamic" mode that is not remembered? Mine remembers that I'm in efficiency, but I've noticed if it was in dynamic then it would go back to auto.

God knows! I only know what iv read on this forum and by how the car feels. Display always states the mode I left it in but it feels different. This question is prob for another thread or a few hours reading though! It seems to be one of those Q's that opens up a lot of reactions!
 
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Just saw that Mark_86 was talking about S7 whereas I experience this issue even in comfort mode. I simply think it's too sensitive when you just want to accelerate a little at highway speed and it shifts down from 7th to 6th with anything than a very light touch on the throttle. Then when I switch to efficiency and it stays in 7th gear I can feel that it got plenty of power accelerating from like 80mph to 90mph to make a normal overtaking.

Just blip the right paddle and it'll switch to M7, then you can accelerate as hard as you like without it shifting down. A short while later it'll switch back to D7 (or S7) of its own accord.
 
Same as if I leave my back door unlocked whilst I'm upstairs and someone spirited in, stole the keys and drove it off.

Not sure what utopian alternate reality you live in but I keep my doors locked when I'm in the house.

I've defrosted my cars this way for the last 35 years. Far better and safer to drive off in a fully de-iced, fully demisted car IMHO.

You do realise this doesn't do the car any good as it takes far longer for the oil to distribute around the engine than if you drive off immediately after starting or at least after a minimal amount of idling.