Car struggles to start

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As you can see the inlet is retarded back off the mark...

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<tuffty/> said:
Pulley on the crank dude... the one incorrectly orientated and held on with two bolts instead of four... you haven't said if that was fixed...

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Sure I remember reading it was fixed.


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You guys are good, I couldn't see sh!t on the blurry low res pics!

That's a school boy error, the very same error discussed in all the previous links posted....

At least you know the culprit now!
 
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<tuffty/> said:
Pulley on the crank dude... the one incorrectly orientated and held on with two bolts instead of four... you haven't said if that was fixed...

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Oh right don't know why I thought that but yes that is perfectly fitted now with 4 bolts finally
 
Also is the exhaust cam okay or does that need moving to?
 
dude... all the info is in the links I posted.. can appreciate you being wary about doing the job but I have covered all this quite a few times over the last 5 pages...

Re read the thread, follow the links... its all there... it looks a little daunting I can appreciate but its really not that tricky to do...

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MikeCrum1996 said:
So the chain needs to come over to the left slightly? If that's the case would I remove the entire cam to reposition it? But does that tension look okay?
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It's nothing to do with tension, it will tension itself.
You undo the cam and tensioner as per Tuffty instruction, and rotate forward the cam/pull chain back until that 16th link is back over the cam timing notch.
I'd suggest you mark both the current wrong position, and the 16th link so you know where you're moving things to/from.
 
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dude... all the info is in the links I posted.. can appreciate you being wary about doing the job but I have covered all this quite a few times over the last 5 pages...

Re read the thread, follow the links... its all there... it looks a little daunting I can appreciate but its really not that tricky to do...

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Sorry for being annoying I just worry to much about messing it up.. but I've got all the info I need now just need to get a tensioner tool then crack on with it
 
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And from my own experience with the same fault code as yourself:

Wrong:
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Right:
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So going off the pictures Karl and tuffty posted to pull the 16th roller back to where it should be the tensioner would lift the chain up in the centre. Is that right?
 
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MikeCrum1996 said:
Damper fitted incorrectly? What the tensioner is fitted wrong?
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I think tuffty was talking about the timing belt damper not the cam chain tensioner, also the lower pulley only had two bolts in and the timing was out on the belt and the cam to cam timing out after changing the valves.

I'm only a beginner - but that sounds like a lot, didn't your last mechanic say the cam was out a tooth - was it - or has he put it out a tooth? Karl called it based solely on your starting difficulties someone should buy him a chocolate bar. :)

I spoke to a neighbour who has paid 3K to a vet due to a comedy of errors and misdiagnosis, they complained that our vet overcharges - when our dog had the same problem (grass seed behind its eyeball causing an infection etc etc) it was sorted out the same day not 3 months (3K) later.

 
MikeCrum1996 said:
Sorry for being annoying I just worry to much about messing it up.. but I've got all the info I need now just need to get a tensioner tool then crack on with it
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Not a problem... appreciate that you want to be sure... I have done cam to cam alignment more times than I can remember and is something I can do in my sleep (probably) so its easy for me to forget others are likely to want to be a little more cautious...

But in reality it is as simple as engine at TDC, exhaust cam notch aligns with triangle mark, inlet cam aligns with triangle mark with the top pad of the cam tensioner fully up... Karls post here shows the difference...
http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/car-struggles-to-start.340125/page-4#post-3088411

Based on your pic (that I edited) the tensioner is not quite fully up as the 16th roller on the inlet cam side should be a bit closer to the triangle mark... if that is the case then it looks like the cam to cam is monumentally out which would explain the code and the poor starting/running

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I think the next link I post will be to the first page of this thread ;)

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When adjusting the cam timing do I need to touch these? Anyone?
 

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Cam lobes are fixed to the cam... you only need to align the marks to the notches on the cam sprockets as per all the info posted dude

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Cars sorted now all lined up although it took 3 hours.... car starts every time pulls like a train and eml is gone off finally..

Thank you to everyone who helped especially tuffty I followed that guide now no more problems.. happy day
 
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