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Hi all.

Looking to get some vehicle replacement GAP insurance...

Invoice price of £35000 with a 5 year cover.

I have narrowed it down to Direct Gap coming in @ £349, and ALA price matching then beating it @ £334.

Has anyone got a discount code for Direct Gap? Or know anywhere else that is cheaper?
 
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I havent got GAP insurance but i did get a quote with ALA recently. I didn't take the offer but a couple of days after getting the quote they emailed me with a discount code. Think it was 5% off. Worth waiting a few days if you can just to see if you get any offers sent to you after the quotes. They want your business so i would have thought they would be in touch to better the quotes...
 
You tried Piston12 for ALA mate ?
 
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Yeah PISTON12 brings it to £375ish, but the price match with Direct Gap took it down to £334. Full price was £424ish I think.

Anyone managed any cheaper deals with same or other companies?
 
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I used ala, went for just back to invoice though.

Check quidco! Or even see if Audi will match at that price.
 
Can someone tell me if I'm better with back to invoice or vehicle replacement? Surely if you go the invoice route then you have the cash to pay off your finance and start a fresh or have I missed something? Also for example when ALA ask for the invoice price and I put £35k for example, it says level of cover £25,000 (recommended). Why not 35k like the invoice?

I'm looking to get GAP in place for my S3 now too.
 
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Can someone tell me if I'm better with back to invoice or vehicle replacement? Surely if you go the invoice route then you have the cash to pay off your finance and start a fresh or have I missed something? Also for example when ALA ask for the invoice price and I put £35k for example, it says level of cover £25,000 (recommended). Why not 35k like the invoice?

I'm looking to get GAP in place for my S3 now too.

Back to invoice is fine if you paid full price for your car, if you got discount or the price has gone up then you'll get what you paid not what the full OTR price of the car was or indeed now is. Also, the level of cover is recommended to be an amount that will cover the difference between what your insurance will pay out and what the GAP will top up to.

Replacement Vehicle GAP looks at how much it would cost to put you in a like for like vehicle, so it wouldn't matter if you got £10k off the car when you bought it, they would in effect top up the insurance payout to replace the vehicle (again up to your cover amount)
 
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Yeah PISTON12 brings it to £375ish, but the price match with Direct Gap took it down to £334. Full price was £424ish I think.

Anyone managed any cheaper deals with same or other companies?
My policy is with ALA. Replacement plus..£230 for three years..... £22500 max pay out...... Flyin !
 
Also the 25k recommended on the 35k car, as your car will always be worth over 10k(which your standard insurance would pay for), if you were to claim.
 
Hi all.

Looking to get some vehicle replacement GAP insurance...

Invoice price of £35000 with a 5 year cover.

I have narrowed it down to Direct Gap coming in @ £349, and ALA price matching then beating it @ £334.

Has anyone got a discount code for Direct Gap? Or know anywhere else that is cheaper?

You could try gapinsurance.co.uk. They have virtually identical policies to ALA. I've just looked and for a £35k vehicle, replacement gap insurance with unlimited claim limit, they're quoting £367 but, using their discount code from the vwaudiforum.co.uk that I'm a member of (code: "VWAF10") the price drops to £330.30.

HTH
 
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You could try gapinsurance.co.uk. They have virtually identical policies to ALA. I've just looked and for a £35k vehicle, replacement gap insurance with unlimited claim limit, they're quoting £367 but, using their discount code from the vwaudiforum.co.uk that I'm a member of (code: "VWAF10") the price drops to £330.30.

HTH
Thanks I will have a look at this one mate
 
So do people tend to go for replacement vehicle cover then instead of back to invoice? I bought my car through carwow so got roughly 15% saving.
 
Is this for a new car, as my car insurance covers new for old for the first year. So I was not going to look for gap insurance until it's over a year old.


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Back to invoice is fine if you paid full price for your car, if you got discount or the price has gone up then you'll get what you paid not what the full OTR price of the car was or indeed now is. Also, the level of cover is recommended to be an amount that will cover the difference between what your insurance will pay out and what the GAP will top up to.

Replacement Vehicle GAP looks at how much it would cost to put you in a like for like vehicle, so it wouldn't matter if you got £10k off the car when you bought it, they would in effect top up the insurance payout to replace the vehicle (again up to your cover amount)

Does that mean with replacement vehicle GAP that they would cover all of your options on the car?
 
Does that mean with replacement vehicle GAP that they would cover all of your options on the car?

I'd guess so, I'd like to think that I wouldn't be expected to go and buy a standard S3 to replace the one I have with a few nice options added.

@S15THM what you have to think is if you went with back to invoice, you'd end up being paid out based on what you've paid for the car as opposed to what the retail price was.
 
So do people tend to go for replacement vehicle cover then instead of back to invoice? I bought my car through carwow so got roughly 15% saving.

Does that mean with replacement vehicle GAP that they would cover all of your options on the car?

Invoice GAP is about getting you back to the original invoice price that you paid to put the vehicle on the road.

Replacement GAP is about getting you up to the cost of replacing the vehicle at the time of claim with an equivalent to what you bought first time around. E.g. if you bought a brand new vehicle originally, it would be about getting you up to the cost of another brand new equivalent at the time of claim. If you bought a 12 month old with 10,000 miles on the clock, it would be about getting you up to the cost of replacing it with another 12month old with ~10,000 miles on the clock, equivalent at the time of claim.

The theory, is that with vehicle retail prices increasing over time, you'd stand to receive a higher payout from a Replacement GAP insurance policy than you would from an Invoice GAP insurance policy. This is compounded further if the original purchase was for a brand new vehicle involving discount off the full list price. In very simple terms, Invoice GAP would protect you only to the discounted price you paid whilst Replacement GAP would protect you to the higher full (and prone-to-further-increase) list price of the vehicle.

@S15THM I'd suggest that if you got a 15% discount off the list price, it should be Replacement GAP insurance for you all day long.

Is this for a new car, as my car insurance covers new for old for the first year. So I was not going to look for gap insurance until it's over a year old.

Most companies will only allow you to buy GAP insurance within a set period of time after taking ownership of the vehicle. Most are up 6-months afterwards. There's one or two who will permit you to buy cover up to 12 months afterwards. I don't think any will allow you to buy full Invoice and/or Replacement GAP insurance if you wait longer than 12 months though. Once you breach 12 months, you can only get a form of "Agreed Value GAP insurance" which would only cover you to what your vehicle was worth at the time you bought the GAP insurance policy.

The other thing is that with some companies I believe the GAP insurance premium increases the longer you take to purchase the policy.

One option is to wait until near the end of the first year and then purchase GAP insurance OR, buy a policy sooner from a provider that will allow you to defer the start date of the GAP insurance policy by up to a year from when the vehicle was first registered.

It's worth noting though that not all Car Insurance policies include replacement vehicle cover in the first year and of those that do, some of them have such stringent eligibility criteria that you have to meet at the time of any claim that, it would be quite difficult to actually get a physical replacement vehicle out of them with the potential of receiving a market value payout anyway. Thus, for anyone considering relying on their motor insurance in the first year instead of GAP insurance, you should:
  • Make sure your motor insurance actually offers replacement vehicle cover within the first year
  • Read the terms of their replacement vehicle cover carefully
  • Buy GAP insurance for later years, within the first year. Don't go more than one year and miss out.
HTH
 
Is this for a new car, as my car insurance covers new for old for the first year. So I was not going to look for gap insurance until it's over a year old.


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Yeah defo get GAP asap. Most won't let you buy it if you purchased the car more than 6 months ago.

Return to invoice will get you the amount you paid (including any options and discount).

Replacement will get you the same car and spec, even if prices for the car has risen, or the new model has come out. This option is a lot better for a tiny bit more money (maybe £10 a year).
 
Wow, didn't know that. Thanks for the advice guys


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@S15THM I'd suggest that if you got a 15% discount off the list price, it should be Replacement GAP insurance for you all day long.

Why does the likes of ALA only recommend £22,500 over 3 year cover then? Should I change this to match the list price or stick with what they recommend? It says 'This is the amount of cover required to cover the gap between your insurers settlement and replacing your vehicle new for old. Or, if you have bought a used car, we will replace it with a vehicle of a similar age as the one you bought.' so I'm guessing that I should just leave it where it is.
 
Yes. Say your invoice price was £34k, and your car was written off two years in, the market value would still be say £24k. The £22.5k from ALA covers the difference between what your insurances pays out, and the invoice price. It would pay £10k. So nowhere near the £22.5k limit they have given you.
 
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@S15THM exactly as above, the likelihood of needing a £22,500 payout within 3 years is probably very slim, that will just cover the difference between the insurance offer and your GAP cover.
 
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Yes. Say your invoice price was £34k, and your car was written off two years in, the market value would still be say £24k. The £22.5k from ALA covers the difference between what your insurances pays out, and the invoice price. It would pay £10k. So nowhere near the £22.5k limit they have given you.

@S15THM exactly as above, the likelihood of needing a £22,500 payout within 3 years is probably very slim, that will just cover the difference between the insurance offer and your GAP cover.

Thanks very much chaps.
 
What happens if you use vehicle replacement (or any other type) with finance?

Do they settle the finance? And you order a new car? Or pay for the finance and a replacement?
I am not clear.
 
What happens if you use vehicle replacement (or any other type) with finance?

Do they settle the finance? And you order a new car? Or pay for the finance and a replacement?
I am not clear.

Money is paid to you.

With Vehicle Replacement GAP you are protecting against this possibility. Any settlement is paid directly to you, so if you have finance, this can be paid and anything remaining is yours to use as you wish. If you own the vehicle and have no finance, the full settlement is yours to use as you wish.
 
What happens if you use vehicle replacement (or any other type) with finance?

Do they settle the finance? And you order a new car? Or pay for the finance and a replacement?
I am not clear.

Any finance company with an interest in their vehicle receives the amount due to them first. Any excess funds are then usually paid to you. Watch out though as some GAP providers' Replacement GAP insurance policy terms insist that you have to allow them to source your next vehicle or, that they'll pay the funds to a nominated motor dealer from whom you then have to source your next car. E.g. you don't see any cash. ALA used to say that if you didn't allow them to source your next vehicle, they'd handle your Replacement GAP insurance claim on an Invoice GAP insurance basis - though I don't believe they do anymore - you should check though.
 
Any finance company with an interest in their vehicle receives the amount due to them first. Any excess funds are then usually paid to you. Watch out though as some GAP providers' Replacement GAP insurance policy terms insist that you have to allow them to source your next vehicle or, that they'll pay the funds to a nominated motor dealer from whom you then have to source your next car. E.g. you don't see any cash. ALA used to say that if you didn't allow them to source your next vehicle, they'd handle your Replacement GAP insurance claim on an Invoice GAP insurance basis - though I don't believe they do anymore - you should check though.

The paragraph I posted is from ALA's website, they pay the money directly to you.
 
The paragraph I posted is from ALA's website, they pay the money directly to you.
Well their description is wrong. Think about it...

A finance company from whom you borrowed money... by way of a loan which is *secured* on the vehicle, allows you to take ALL of the money paid out from both your Motor and GAP insurance policies and then hopes that you might actually consider paying them the money that you still owe them. You decide not to pay them so they're gonna invoke their right to repossess the vehicle... except the vehicle no longer exists, so they can't.

OR

Your Motor Insurance will definitely pay directly to the finance company, any amount of their payout that is due to them. If after doing that, you still owe the finance company money, the GAP insurance will (should) step in to pay off that remaining balance. Let's assume that money is then paid to you directly by the GAP insurance claim administrator instead of to the finance company. The finance company sit tight waiting for you to get around to paying them the amount that they're owed, safe in the knowledge that they can repossess the vehicle if you don't pay... except the vehicle no longer exists, so they can't.

No finance company in their right mind would allow that to happen.

It's their (that is the finance company) vehicle until such time as you've repaid every penny that you owe them under the terms of the loan you took out. Allowing you to walk way with the money against an asset that they no longer have rights over would be foolish of them to say the very least.

Rest assured, subject to the policy Claim Limit, a GAP insurance claim administrator is obliged to pay the finance company any amount that is due to be paid to them, before they consider paying out any funds to the policyholder.
 
The paragraph I posted is from ALA's website, they pay the money directly to you.
Wait... having read your post again... I think you might have been referring to my comment about the replacement vehicle. Please accept my apologies if I misunderstood.
 
Yeah PISTON12 brings it to £375ish, but the price match with Direct Gap took it down to £334. Full price was £424ish I think.

Anyone managed any cheaper deals with same or other companies?

I got my cover from ALA, 4 year, £25000 claim limit for £224.60. I benchmarked the same cover with shortfall.co.uk and then beat it by 20% as stated on there site. Original quote from ALA was £323 back in May
 
I got my cover from ALA, 4 year, £25000 claim limit for £224.60. I benchmarked the same cover with shortfall.co.uk and then beat it by 20% as stated on there site. Original quote from ALA was £323 back in May

That sounds like a good deal! It's 20% discount in the difference of the price, not 20% cheaper than the competitors quote.
 
Vehicle Replacement
4 years, £30,000 policy.
£209.65

Not bad that?
 

How are you getting that so cheap? Lol

I've done invoice @ £37275, 4 year and £30000 cover and its £377?!


Ohhh I see. Then you price matched with gapinsurance.co.uk! Bargain. 4 year is so much cheaper than 5!
 
How are you getting that so cheap? Lol

I've done invoice @ £37275, 4 year and £30000 cover and its £377?!


Ohhh I see. Then you price matched with gapinsurance.co.uk! Bargain. 4 year is so much cheaper than 5!

Nah they price matched with Shortfall and then add 20% off. And only 4 years for me cause I'll only have the car for 4.
 
How are you getting that so cheap? Lol

I've done invoice @ £37275, 4 year and £30000 cover and its £377?!


Ohhh I see. Then you price matched with gapinsurance.co.uk! Bargain. 4 year is so much cheaper than 5!

Now... I struggle with this... ALA quote £377, yet they're then magically able to stand dropping their price by ~44% because you found a cheaper quote?

Mark me down as a skeptic but, the same policy from gapinsurance.co.uk (same insurer, same claim admin, virtually identical terms - though marginally more favourable from gapinsurance.co.uk given they don't charge cancellation fees) is quoted at £254.73 with a £25k claim limit or £267.62 with an unlimited claim limit), prices that drop to £229.26 or £240.86 respectively, with the VWAF10 code I mentioned previously. If it's the same policy, how on earth are ALA quoting £377 originally, then dropping that price at the drop of a hat by ~44% and somehow coming up smelling of roses?
 
Same as every other insurer does, direct line almost halved my renewal price a year or 2 back after I done a quote online with them that came up beginning with a 3 instead of a 6!
 
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Same as every other insurer does, direct line almost halved my renewal price a year or 2 back after I done a quote online with them that came up beginning with a 3 instead of a 6!

I take your point but, low prices to reel you in and then sting you with a high renewal premium is pretty much par for the course with motor insurance these days. Given that GAP insurance policies aren't (for the main part at least) renewable, I don't think the same principle quite applies here.
 
Now... I struggle with this... ALA quote £377, yet they're then magically able to stand dropping their price by ~44% because you found a cheaper quote?

Mark me down as a skeptic but, the same policy from gapinsurance.co.uk (same insurer, same claim admin, virtually identical terms - though marginally more favourable from gapinsurance.co.uk given they don't charge cancellation fees) is quoted at £254.73 with a £25k claim limit or £267.62 with an unlimited claim limit), prices that drop to £229.26 or £240.86 respectively, with the VWAF10 code I mentioned previously. If it's the same policy, how on earth are ALA quoting £377 originally, then dropping that price at the drop of a hat by ~44% and somehow coming up smelling of roses?[/QU

£377 was for 5 years. My bad. 4 years cover is a lot cheaper than 5 years cover! The gapinsurance.co.uk quote was for 4 years.
 

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