Facelift RS Sport Suspension - comparable to which driver select mode?

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Does anyone know how the stock RS Sport suspension feels like compared to the various modes that can be selected when Magnetic ride option is installed on the car?

e.g is it closer to Dynamic or comfort?
 
Afaik it is like Auto so not as soft as Comfort and not as hard as Dynamic.

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I know two things:
  • The RS3 suspension, even in Magnetic Mode (which is an improvement when you need more comfort) is HARSH and you will lose your fillings and your Nan will hate it
  • The supersports seats are wonderfully spongy. Without then, this RS3 might be pretty much horrid on UK roads
 
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SO along with the sports exhaust (which I have already had a good telling of about) I also deleted the mag ride from my RS3 order.

I have it on my S3 - its standard on the saloon - so why Audi decided the RS3 saloon doesn’t deserve it as standard!?

It does make a difference between Comfort and Dynamic - you can feel how its hard and then soft - although the change is no where near as dramatic on my Golf R - I couldn’t drive in dynamic because it was too hard except on super flat roads. Anyway I decided that I can live with a standard non magnetic sports suspension.

But one advantage I do have of not getting my car until Easter is I have time to change my order and also have time to see what people think of there cars with and witbout it.
 
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As a previous Golf R (MK6 x 2) owner myself. I had seen the question of stock suspension vs adjustable debated to death on various forums. The outcome was that the standard suspension doesn't compare with the adjustable and its three settings at all. Obviously the Dynamic and Comfort can't be compared, which leaves Auto and as that constantly adjust to your driving style and temperment, it too cannot be compared to the standard set-up. The best thing would be for you to have as many test drives of both as you can, preferably over the same route so that you can decide for yourself which ticks your boxes :racer:
 
Spinstorm said:
SO along with the sports exhaust (which I have already had a good telling of about) I also deleted the mag ride from my RS3 order.

I have it on my S3 - its standard on the saloon - so why Audi decided the RS3 saloon doesn’t deserve it as standard!?

It does make a difference between Comfort and Dynamic - you can feel how its hard and then soft - although the change is no where near as dramatic on my Golf R - I couldn’t drive in dynamic because it was too hard except on super flat roads. Anyway I decided that I can live with a standard non magnetic sports suspension.

But one advantage I do have of not getting my car until Easter is I have time to change my order and also have time to see what people think of there cars with and witbout it.
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Wasnt giving you a telling, just want to make sure you know the ins and outs that's all.
 
I'm not sure that "auto" adjusts to your driving style. Doesn't it just sit in between comfort and dynamic?

TX.

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terminator x said:
I'm not sure that "auto" adjusts to your driving style. Doesn't it just sit in between comfort and dynamic?
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Hmmmm, embarrassingly it looks like I don't know the true workings of the "magnetic ride". The VW set up on the MK6 Golf which dates back to 2009/2010, did adjust to the manner in which the car was being driven when switched to "Auto" mode. I'd assumed that years on from that, the Audi system would be at least as complex or even more so!! Looking at the video below, it appears that the suspension is constantly being monitored, regardless of which postion it is set to. To my mind, I'm guessing that is an advancement on the VW system and also prevents any comparison to the standard suspension set-up. Customers would need to try cars with both set-ups to see which they prefer and of course they'd have to play around with the settings on the "magnetic ride" equipped car.

 
terminator x said:
I'm not sure that "auto" adjusts to your driving style. Doesn't it just sit in between comfort and dynamic?

TX.

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The manual says it adjusted for day to day driving, I don't see it.. it's a 'medium' to me.
 
dunes7 said:
Hmmmm, embarrassingly it looks like I don't know the true workings of the "magnetic ride". The VW set up on the MK6 Golf which dates back to 2009/2010, did adjust to the manner in which the car was being driven when switched to "Auto" mode. I'd assumed that years on from that, the Audi system would be at least as complex or even more so!! Looking at the video below, it appears that the suspension is constantly being monitored, regardless of which postion it is set to. To my mind, I'm guessing that is an advancement on the VW system and also prevents any comparison to the standard suspension set-up. Customers would need to try cars with both set-ups to see which they prefer and of course they'd have to play around with the settings on the "magnetic ride" equipped car.

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If you have a look behind the wheels, on each bottom arm there is what appears to be a limit switch. I assumed that it did infact constantly monitor the suspension, well it would have to or how else does it know how hard or soft the system is? I believe that whatever that plastic link arm is connected to measured the dampening on each corner which is adjusted accordingly by the magnetic damper to ensure that each corner reaches the 'set' setting on the suspension.

I now after looking at that video am thinking what if it does adjust automatically? Think of the modes, in comfort it could totally switch off the system so you are left with dampers only.
Then in Auto, the mag ride could come to life and start monitoring which is why it gets slightly firmer? Then as the illustration shows, on the straight and flat the system is just neutral. Then once there is any additional force applied to each corner, the system adjusts the magnets to keep the car firm and level.
Then in dynamic it is probably on to its maximum potential, at which point the sensing system is monitoring to level out all 4 corners? There has to be some form of feedback to the system, so it knows the system is working how it should. My Dad's A6 Allroad had the same limit arms on each corner, assumingly to confirm the height of the air suspension on each corner.
 
Here in Canada we pay extra for the fixed suspension, aka: "Sport Suspension". It's also the only way to unlock the 280km/h vmax.

I had mag on my '15 S3 and didn't like it; my guess is the S3 had the same suspension tuning as the A3. The fixed sport suspension on my '18 RS3 seems to have more travel than the old Dynamic setting, is a little softer, and offers more feel. I do trust it more after a few weeks than I ever did in the S3. I never used 'Comfort', as our roads are pretty good here and I hated the wallowing and floating feel I'd get on the highway. I haven't hit 8/10ths yet, still being in the audi prescribed break-in period for another 100 miles or so.
 
tjacoby said:
Here in Canada we pay extra for the fixed suspension, aka: "Sport Suspension". It's also the only way to unlock the 280km/h vmax.

I had mag on my '15 S3 and didn't like it; my guess is the S3 had the same suspension tuning as the A3. The fixed sport suspension on my '18 RS3 seems to have more travel than the old Dynamic setting, is a little softer, and offers more feel. I do trust it more after a few weeks than I ever did in the S3. I never used 'Comfort', as our roads are pretty good here and I hated the wallowing and floating feel I'd get on the highway. I haven't hit 8/10ths yet, still being in the audi prescribed break-in period for another 100 miles or so.
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Slight change of topic - exactly what is the prescribed Audi RS3 break in period ???
 
teslaboy said:
Slight change of topic - exactly what is the prescribed Audi RS3 break in period ???
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You will always get a different answer from someone on this subject. Some will say as long as the engine is warmed up then drive it like you stole it from mile 1. Others will say give it 1000 miles. I'm sure the former is correct, however, I can never bring myself to do that and end up running it in slowly for the first 1000. Don't forget, it's not just the engine your running in. It's things like brakes, too.
 
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teslaboy said:
Slight change of topic - exactly what is the prescribed Audi RS3 break in period ???
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entire Internets have been built and sacrificed to this question! the owner's manual, shared with the A3/S3, says to keep revs below 2/3 max for the first 1000km and gradually increase to max for the next 500km's. The car itself lowers the redline to 5,500rpm when it's just started and enables 7000 rpm a minute or less, before there's any reported oil temperature which seems crazy to me (using 7000rpm before the oil's warmed up).

My dealer's advice was only to not do high speed runs for the first little bit to let everything settle in. The car's delivered with 1.0g max acceleration, so someone got to play; the demo cars start off as low mileage cars and clearly subjected to Wide Open Throttle runs.
 
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entire Internets have been built and sacrificed to this question! the owner's manual, shared with the A3/S3, says to keep revs below 2/3 max for the first 1000km and gradually increase to max for the next 500km's. The car itself lowers the redline to 5,500rpm when it's just started and enables 7000 rpm a minute or less, before there's any reported oil temperature which seems crazy to me (using 7000rpm before the oil's warmed up).

My dealer's advice was only to not do high speed runs for the first little bit to let everything settle in. The car's delivered with 1.0g max acceleration, so someone got to play; the demo cars start off as low mileage cars and clearly subjected to Wide Open Throttle runs.
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You've given me an idea now and one I didn't want to have, the g meter. If I see mine at 1.0g I won't be pleased.

I was led to believe the car has a delivery map on it when in transit? To stop the people at the ports thrashing them?
 
AudiNutta said:
You've given me an idea now and one I didn't want to have, the g meter. If I see mine at 1.0g I won't be pleased.

I was led to believe the car has a delivery map on it when in transit? To stop the people at the ports thrashing them?
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Maybe the boat it was on did a launch control.
 
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I'm assuming it's part of the break-in routine as it's roughly 1.0g acceleration and 0.9g left, 0.9g right, and 0.9g braking. That's not possible with a quick joyride on city streets. my pdi check-sheet does have a check-mark beside "test acceleration" and "test braking".
 
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I'm assuming it's part of the break-in routine as it's roughly 1.0g acceleration and 0.9g left, 0.9g right, and 0.9g braking. That's not possible with a quick joyride on city streets. my pdi check-sheet does have a check-mark beside "test acceleration" and "test braking".
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"Test Acceleration" is a worryingly broad statement haha.
 
I'd call it even - I tested the acceleration and braking on their 2018 R8 V10+
 
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Cheers for the feedback guys.
I was thinking keep it slow for the first 1000miles....
Can't wait to try the launch control, I've never had an auto, the previous three S3s were all manuals.
 
teslaboy said:
Cheers for the feedback guys.
I was thinking keep it slow for the first 1000miles....
Can't wait to try the launch control, I've never had an auto, the previous three S3s were all manuals.
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LC will blow your mind. It always looks sluggish on videos but inside it's like you've been catapulted, so violent is the take off.
 
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teslaboy said:
Cheers for the feedback guys.
I was thinking keep it slow for the first 1000miles....
Can't wait to try the launch control, I've never had an auto, the previous three S3s were all manuals.
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The manual states 1000KM, so 600 miles and is likely what I will do.

With my S3 I kept it under 4000rpm for the first tank (300 miles) and then steadily increased it but using all the range. By 500 miles I was going all out. Can't have done it bad, came up 30hp more on a dyno than it should be.
 
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Interestingly when I turned on the Ara Blue RS3 earlier today it came up with a warning saying to keep the revs below 5500 and the red line moved on the VC. I’ve never seen that before. And it didn’t happen when I turned on the saloon 5 minutes later.
 
Spinstorm said:
Interestingly when I turned on the Ara Blue RS3 earlier today it came up with a warning saying to keep the revs below 5500 and the red line moved on the VC. I’ve never seen that before. And it didn’t happen when I turned on the saloon 5 minutes later.
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I get this on every fully cold start, the redline moves back to 6800 much more quickly than I would of thought.
 
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