New diesel and petrol cars banned from U.K roads by 2040!

Check your maths!! It's 23 years until 2040 and I won't be too bothered by them myself!!

But if there is a problem in town/city centres they would do well to sort out the buses first. They polute much more than cars.
 
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RichardT said:
Check your maths!! It's 23 years until 2040 and I won't be too bothered by them myself!!

But if there is a problem in town/city centres they would do well to sort out the buses first. They polute much more than cars.
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Ha ha you're right. It's late! I see that mini have today announced that the new electric mini will be built in the UK from 2019.
Hopefully the battery technology will be what it needs to be by the time 2040 comes.
 
Electric cars are certainly less polluting in use. But the pollution in the total life of a car is something else. The production process for the batteries is pretty polluting, plus they use valuable and scarce natural resources. Also the electricity has to be generated somewhere. That is switching round slowly, but there's still a lot of pollution involved in generation.
 
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I think we will still be driving around in Petrol and diesel vechicles in 2060 plus.
The infrastructure to support all these electric vechicles is going to take a long time to get in place and will be hugely expensive.
There are a lot of people who don't have garages or parking for the car near the property how do they recharge it?. Imagine the demand on the national grid for power when everybody arrives home at 4pm-6pm and plugs in the car to charge.
A typical car charger is around 7-10KW and will be charging for 4-7 hours.
Hopefully the technology will continue maturing and range and efficiencies will improve as well as costs dropping.
 
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Could not give two hoots. I be well retired and living abroad by then!

YES!!
 
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I'm fed up of the debacle , as Karl said petrol and diesel isn't going to disappear because the infrastructures are in place.

By then genuine technology could significantly reduce harmful emissions , Continental has already produced a 48V catalytic converter which drastically reduces nitrogen dioxides .

Nothing on your central heating boiler pumping out nitrogen dioxides which has no aftertreatments.

Let's all get run over by quiet electric vehicles , just this week on my mountain bike two women on separate occasions have stepped out into the road in front of me , one was carrying a new born baby !
 
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Interesting points about electric charging points on driveways , I think that we will lift a very lightweight and compact 'energy pack' and replace it with one already charged when we next go to the car so that wont be a problem. Will also be interesting to see cars without the combustion engine and how we mod them to make more noise and make them stand out from the crowd!
 
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All a load of nonsense. :blahblah1: As I recall we voted to the leave the EU so this farcical situation won't apply to the UK in future :yahoo:ClientEarth who caused this rumpus are just another, sinister Green pressure group part funded by Brussels.
 
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I saw this this morning. I have no issues with electric vehicles (except the lack of noise) and it's the future, for sure. I'm betting the next set of RS vehicles will have some form of hybrid system on board, so it's coming. As mentioned, the infrastructure isn't in place, very expensive to implement and it'll be the tax payers and car manufacturers which pay for that in the end. I suppose in theory every street lamp is a potential charging station?

As for garages? Not being funny, but most garages are too small for modern cars - I don't think a Q7 would fit in mine... I barely got my Focus ST in there!

Until the technology catches up with peoples ambition, I think we'll be stuck with petrol and diesel cars. I have no issue with banning the sale of diesel vehicles, I hate them anyway. Until you can pull up to a charging station - plug in and have a full charge in 10 minutes and have a range of around 300 miles, people will struggle to embrace it.

As for us petrol heads - well... it's a sad day :(
 
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Government does not drive innovation or market demand; this is ridiculous pandering to the Enviromentalists wrong headed ideas that we can generate all our power from the renewable scam.
Still - won't effect me..
 
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All is not as it seems. When you consider that the electricity has to be produced some where and seeing as you cant get something for nowt as they say some kind of energy is needed to produce said electricity. Then there's the rare earths needed for batteries and motors and in solar panels and wind turbine motors too. Rare is what they are too and most found in third world countries where rich corporations are leaving huge scars on mother earth.
To put it simply there is no easy green answer, horse and cart any one?
 
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All is not as it seems. When you consider that the electricity has to be produced some where and seeing as you cant get something for nowt as they say some kind of energy is needed to produce said electricity. Then there's the rare earths needed for batteries and motors and in solar panels and wind turbine motors too. Rare is what they are too and most found in third world countries where rich corporations are leaving huge scars on mother earth.
To put it simply there is no easy green answer, horse and cart any one?
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I'm sure you're gonna swap your lovely motor for a horse and cart Steve ;)
 
Mark_86 said:
I have no issues with electric vehicles (except the lack of noise)...
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Likewise. I've nearly been run over twice by a Toyota Prius (the same one) that sneaked up on me from a blind junction, and it's not even as if I was wearing my headphones, let alone listening to Barbara Streisand's Woman In Love on them.

I really don't understand why this noise issue hasn't been properly addressed. It is actually pretty ****** dangerous, and once you've almost had a brush with A&E because of it, you realise just what an important part of your general awareness vehicle noise is.

I do have a suggestion as to what noise all-electric cars should make to alert other road-users to their presence, though.

It's this.

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The future is Hydrogen fuel cell cars, which will have on-board electrical generating capacity, rather than batteries that have to be frequently re-charged.
 
Once we can brush the hippies aside and get on with some serious fracking, our problems will be over for another 100-years or more. :pride:
 
Will this ban on Petrol and Diesel cars also be applied to diesel trucks, coaches, buses and trains ?
 
Obviously the ban is on new car sales only. Some people seem to think that no petrol/diesel cars will be on the road after 2040. They'll be thousands upon thousands for a few more years after that.

I'll get through a few more myself before electric is a proper viable option.
 
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