Considering upgrading from 8P to 8V...

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Howdy All,

After almost a year with a A3 2005 2.0T S Line Sportback and we've started thinking of upgrading (now that my wife is comfortable driving in London haha).

Naturally a newer A3 is in scope, but we're also looking at BMW and Mercedes too. It felt that Audi dropped a ball with the redesign, I personally still like the old curvy shape of the 8P.

We're looking at something that's 1 to 2 years old with low mileage and plan to keep it for at least 5 years if not more.

Question to the 8V members is, are you happy with your 8V? Especially if you're coming from an 8P or a 1 series or A series.

Additionally, this time around we're considering a diesel since the 2.0T was a petrol hog! How do the diesel engines in 8V fare? Anything we should be aware of?

Thanks.
 
maxpayne said:
Howdy All,

After almost a year with a A3 2005 2.0T S Line Sportback and we've started thinking of upgrading (now that my wife is comfortable driving in London haha).

Naturally a newer A3 is in scope, but we're also looking at BMW and Mercedes too. It felt that Audi dropped a ball with the redesign, I personally still like the old curvy shape of the 8P.

We're looking at something that's 1 to 2 years old with low mileage and plan to keep it for at least 5 years if not more.

Question to the 8V members is, are you happy with your 8V? Especially if you're coming from an 8P or a 1 series or A series.

Additionally, this time around we're considering a diesel since the 2.0T was a petrol hog! How do the diesel engines in 8V fare? Anything we should be aware of?

Thanks.
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On the fuel side of things i have a 1.4 tfsi COD and its really good on fuel, urban driving is maybe say £17 for 100 odd miles but motorway miles have managed 450 miles from a full tank. Costs £55 to fill her up from empty aswell, plus its a 150 bhp so has a kick to it especially in dynamic mode
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I second this. I have two 8p at the moment. A diesel and a 1.8t petrol.

The 8v is lights years ahead of the 8p. Also got the 1.4tfsi and it's a peach of an engine in my opinion. You would not be disappointed


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Thanks for feedback. One concern with the 8V is that given a new facelift model just came out, we'd probably have to wait a bit before it comes down to our price range. If we go for the existing 8V, I suspect we might be looking at a bad depreciation chart!


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maxpayne said:
Thanks for feedback. One concern with the 8V is that given a new facelift model just came out, we'd probably have to wait a bit before it comes down to our price range. If we go for the existing 8V, I suspect we might be looking at a bad depreciation chart!


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I know it doesnt suit everyone but you would be suprised at some of the deals you can get on pcp and would have a new car every 3 years but just an option to have a look doesnt hurt to explore all options first maybe.


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David McQueen said:
I know it doesnt suit everyone but you would be suprised at some of the deals you can get on pcp and would have a new car every 3 years but just an option to have a look doesnt hurt to explore all options first maybe.


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PCP/PCI is an option, albeit more of a last resort. At my old place I actually had a car allowance but took the cash instead
 
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I made the same swap from an 8p s3 to an 8V s3 and never looked back in terms of comfort and tech and all round as a car only thing I miss is my old s3 was heavily modded and pushing quite a bit more power then my new one
 
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What about the retrofit scene with the 8V? For example how easy is to get a base model and then add things like cruise control and lane detection?


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Cruise is standard dno about the rest the s3 basic is quite good specced
 
maxpayne said:
Thanks for feedback. One concern with the 8V is that given a new facelift model just came out, we'd probably have to wait a bit before it comes down to our price range. If we go for the existing 8V, I suspect we might be looking at a bad depreciation chart!


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After 2 years old the 8v holds its value very well indeed, on a pcp deal say a 4 year deal don't be fooled into thinking you'll be able to change it after 3 years without some negative equity, you'll only escape that if you sell it privately , then pay off the finance, the first 2 years of interest on a pcp is pretty eye opening
There's a lot to be said for buying used, especially for a car full of options
 
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jassyo06 said:
Why not, it will cost a lot more than that from a dealership,but you're best buying one with some warranty ie under 3 years old
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I meant the risks associated with privately buying with almost no protection?
 
As in warranty if after buying you find it has problems that wasn't disclosed. Are things like RAC vehicle check worth it?


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This is way less complicated than it may seem.
I purchased recently (privately, slightly more cheddar than the one you're looking at).

1. I know nothing about cars.
2. I've never spent this much money on a car in one lump sum.

So I was nervous, anxious, skeptical.

Do your due diligence.
- Check all paperwork, servicing etc.
- Do a HPI check.
- Take it for a long test drive (ensure the engine is cold).
- Examine external paintwork with great care and go over the interior cabin thoroughly checking everything works (AC, windows etc).
- Look under the bonnet to check its all clean and straight (I had no idea what I was looking at).
- Ask the seller A LOT of questions.

If you get a green light from these, then it's looking promising.
If your gut feeling says no...walk away.
If you want to get a 120 point check then do it. Likewise, I think you can get Audi to do a healthcheck on the vehicle for free. So if you're committed to buying the car, as a final step say that you want the healthcheck done and assuming it comes back 100%, hand over the cash and enjoy you new car that would've cost more had you got it from a dealership.

Personally, I purchased my car then immediately took out a years extended warranty. So if my untrained eye missed anything, chances are it'll be covered under warranty and if it's a lemon then issues would arise within this time frame.

If you're only going to worry about buying a lemon then don't bother considering it. Buy new or buy used from a dealer.
 
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OP - Have you considered a personal lease rather than PCP.

I'm leasing an A3 Sline Sportback 1.5TSI COD + 4k of options direct from Audi
10k miles per year, maintenance + tyres included.
36 months with 3 payments upfront comes to £385 / month including VAT.

I know I'll never own the car but how it that different to a PCP unless you pay the balloon payment at the end.
 
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This is up for sale in 2 months time

£23,500 6 months warranty 25k miles lol

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Chris43 said:
OP - Have you considered a personal lease rather than PCP.

I'm leasing an A3 Sline Sportback 1.5TSI COD + 4k of options direct from Audi
10k miles per year, maintenance + tyres included.
36 months with 3 payments upfront comes to £385 / month including VAT.

I know I'll never own the car but how it that different to a PCP unless you pay the balloon payment at the end.
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Good suggestion. In fact I realised that a personal car loan is also a great option given the low APR!
 
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