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Hi everyone, just wanted to get some of this online for the world to see instead of just on my whatsapp account.

Fitted a projector kit with xenons/hid kit 7 months ago, wiper motor blew the other day, the seller of the original kit said it was wiper motor safe, so i got in touch and he kindly refunded my money and has been a star throughout this whole process.

Anyway, after this i thought hell best get a new kit pronto, being that my headlights were originally H7 but are now H1 fitment projectors, halogen bulbs would be a bit of a struggle so i was in a rush. Had i done my research this next bit wouldnt of happened...
I contacted HIDS4U :think: told them i have a 54 plate A3 and needed a H1 canbus safe hid kit plus their magical relay loom that solves all your lifes problems... "oh yes sir thats fine" "Are you sure this will work?" "Of course sir im 1000% sure" < and thats a quote, she said those exact words.

Righto i'll have that £105 later, got in the garage pulled the front end off, removed old kit, fitted new kit, doesnt work, bulb warnings everywhere and the bulbs dont even attempt to light. Great. Got on the phone, this time to a different customer service lady... "doesnt work" "What year is your car" " its a 54 plate" "Ah do you know if its a late 54? Because the kit doesnt work with 2005 models"

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Great cheers for that, the only option they gave me was to send it back. Awesome. Wasted an entire afternoon, and for someone that starts work at 3am and had just worked a 9hour day on minimal sleep, my time is quite precious.

So then i got onto this little piece of heaven known as Well Done Lighting, dropped them a PM but then got impatient and found there contact number for Whatsapp, and ****** hell, had a reply in quite literally 10seconds, hella nice chap called Daniel i think, told me to remove my hid kit i had immediately (i cant for previously stated reasons) had a chat about wiper motors and other things, so i placed my order.

Next day i got a message saying "just modifying your kit so it will plug and play with your headlight setup" How heroic is that?!

Anyway thats about as far as i am at the moment, once i receive delivery and fit the kit i will post pictures and some more comments, but yeah dont waste your time with anyone other companys, go straight to WellDone!!:arco:
 
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Just to add to this now its all fitted and working, the ballasts are great way more oem than before, they're just little circles that fit on the headlight cap, i went for 6000k and its pure white, picture below of them in my projectors...



Easy to fit, work perfectly, really happy with them :)
 
Tom93 said:
Just to add to this now its all fitted and working, the ballasts are great way more oem than before, they're just little circles that fit on the headlight cap, i went for 6000k and its pure white, picture below of them in my projectors...



Easy to fit, work perfectly, really happy with them :)
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Are these a hid kit that fit a standard headlight ?
 
This exact one, no. These are a standard headlight with projectors retrofitted so it takes a h1 bulb.

Welldone make a h7 kit that fits standard lights.
 
Does there kit blow motors or cause any problems ? I just bought the car and there put in xenon bulbs, which flash when the car starts up and pretty poor visibility what Kevin would you recommend?
 
No this kit is specifically designed for the 8p A3, so no problems at all!

This kit is 6000k and it takes a good 60 seconds to get there but it does go pure white and looks great imo!
 
Tom93 said:
This exact one, no. These are a standard headlight with projectors retrofitted so it takes a h1 bulb.

Welldone make a h7 kit that fits standard lights.
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Did you retrofit the projectors yourself?
 
I honestly cannot remember. T8ups on here sells projectors, he supplied these for me.
 
Tom93 said:
Just to add to this now its all fitted and working, the ballasts are great way more oem than before, they're just little circles that fit on the headlight cap, i went for 6000k and its pure white, picture below of them in my projectors...



Easy to fit, work perfectly, really happy with them :)
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Hi Tom, noticed this post is an old one and found through a Google image, I have a 2007 audi a3 s line with the basic headlights and been looking into getting some projectors, what will I need? I noticed welldone seem to be the ones but I'm guessing I will have to buy the projector headlamps off ebay as they wont be supplied but as for the rest I'm clueless...thanks
 
Welshy said:
Hi Tom, noticed this post is an old one and found through a Google image, I have a 2007 audi a3 s line with the basic headlights and been looking into getting some projectors, what will I need? I noticed welldone seem to be the ones but I'm guessing I will have to buy the projector headlamps off ebay as they wont be supplied but as for the rest I'm clueless...thanks
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I believe that T8ups sells the projector units that you have to install in your old headlamps (in place of the reflector units) , although I believe that he offers the service too.
This involves removing the headlamp "glass" (which is really plastic in these headlamps) using heat etc and then removing the existing dipped beam reflector unit and replacing it with the projector assembly.
The only A3 headlamps that come with projector units already fitted in them are the factory Xenon headlamps , so to fit Xenons you have 2 options, buy projector units from T8ups and install them in your standard halogen ie reflector headlamps or buy second-hand Genuine A3 xenon headlamps.
To further confuse things there are 2 types of A3 8P factory Xenon headlamp, single Xenon (approx 2003-2006) with a Xenon dipped beam and conventional H7 halogen main beam and bi-xenon (approx 2007 onwards) where both main beam and dipped are xenon.
Bi-Xenons are a lot trickier & more expensive to retro-fit , but it can be done.
I fitted second-hand Genuine single Xenons in mine as it was the easiest option, although not necessarily the cheapest.
 
Nessy said:
I believe that T8ups sells the projector units that you have to install in your old headlamps (in place of the reflector units) , although I believe that he offers the service too.
This involves removing the headlamp "glass" (which is really plastic in these headlamps) using heat etc and then removing the existing dipped beam reflector unit and replacing it with the projector assembly.
The only A3 headlamps that come with projector units already fitted in them are the factory Xenon headlamps , so to fit Xenons you have 2 options, buy projector units from T8ups and install them in your standard halogen ie reflector headlamps or buy second-hand Genuine A3 xenon headlamps.
To further confuse things there are 2 types of A3 8P factory Xenon headlamp, single Xenon (approx 2003-2006) with a Xenon dipped beam and conventional H7 halogen main beam and bi-xenon (approx 2007 onwards) where both main beam and dipped are xenon.
Bi-Xenons are a lot trickier & more expensive to retro-fit , but it can be done.
I fitted second-hand Genuine single Xenons in mine as it was the easiest option, although not necessarily the cheapest.
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Thanks Nessy! Yeah I think I will probably end up doing what you done, I looked up the fake drl aftermarket units but don't know if I like them or more look daft, if I get the standard units what else is needed?
 
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I have no axe to grind with Welldone as have never dealt with them.
All I'll say is look over on the Welldone HID part of the forum here as there have been a few acrimonious posts from an unhappy customer, so do some reading and decide for yourself.
I didn't go for Welldone headlamps as they use Far-East made headlamps and adapt them.
They may be fantastic but I wanted OEM in case I ever needed spare parts etc, they were also quite a bit more to buy than second-hand Genuine.
Sure, going down my route will involve second-hand as opposed to new but that's something I was happy to put up with.
I simply purchased Genuine Audi single Xenons via EBay (made by Automotive Lighting) and fitted them, although as bulb replacement is a swine on these (trust me I know!) I put new Osram D2S bulbs in them before fitting them to the car.
Going rate is about £300 the pair, or less if you're lucky.
Be very careful when buying the headlamps online as lots of them on eBay are for LHD vehicles or are the bi-Xenon version.
The bi-Xenon version has a sort of double chrome 'ring' around the projector lens as opposed to the single chrome ring on the single Xenon versions , once you know what you're looking for it's easy to tell the single and bi-Xenons apart.
The trouble is, many sellers on ebay are clueless as to what they've got and I've seen A3 halogen headlights advertised as factory Xenons and bi-Xenons advertised as singles.
You need to know what you're looking for when buying these headlights as mistakes could prove very costly.
The single Xenons are plug and play although the wiring will need altering to the headlight adjustment motor (the adjustment used when carrying heavy loads) as the motors are different on halogen and Xenon headlamps.
Look for previous posts of mine from last summer onwards as I posted a few articles about doing this job.
Lastly, don't expect a night & day transformation when going from halogens to single Xenons , I did mine mainly for cosmetic reasons, although I was very happy with the results.
As I've got a VCDS cable I've enabled my front fog lamps as DRLs running at 60% brightness and have to say I'm very happy with them.
They look just the same as other VW-group cars like Passats and Tourans etc with valence -mounted DRLs and best of all it was a free mod!
 
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Fairplay mate thanks! I got it funny you mention about the differences as I've noticed some having a chrome ring where as others are like a flat silver circle, I didn't realise, I've changed bulbs and the passenger front is well out as I think the previous owner has knocked it so after trying bulbs, led nothing helps so thought next step is projector/xenons lights, look smart and hoping a big difference the the candles I haveI will look up your old posts and when funding is better I will hopfully now do it right
 
Welshy said:
Fairplay mate thanks! I got it funny you mention about the differences as I've noticed some having a chrome ring where as others are like a flat silver circle, I didn't realise, I've changed bulbs and the passenger front is well out as I think the previous owner has knocked it so after trying bulbs, led nothing helps so thought next step is projector/xenons lights, look smart and hoping a big difference the the candles I haveI will look up your old posts and when funding is better I will hopfully now do it right
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You've got it, I prefer your description!
Yes, single Xenon is like a flat silver circle surrounding the projector lense whilst bi-Xenon has a distinct twin chrome ring around it.
 
Spot on mate!!!! What I wish someone done was the s3 facelift lights modded into the 8p units but seems that is something else lol
 
Don't forget about self-levelling when retrofitting Xenon lights. Don't be doggy!
 
Marek196c said:
Don't forget about self-levelling when retrofitting Xenon lights. Don't be doggy!
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Not needed when retro-fitting Xenons in the UK, if they are factory-fitted then they need to be self-levelling and have headlight washers.
If retro-fitted then you don't need either.
My A4 had a HID kit fitted for about 8 years and never had any trouble at MOT time or anyone flashing me, of course after fitting any sort of new headlamp components then headlight alignment at a proper garage is a must.....
 
Nessy said:
Not needed when retro-fitting Xenons in the UK, if they are factory-fitted then they need to be self-levelling and have headlight washers.
If retro-fitted then you don't need either.
My A4 had a HID kit fitted for about 8 years and never had any trouble at MOT time or anyone flashing me, of course after fitting any sort of new headlamp components then headlight alignment at a proper garage is a must.....
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what about your levelling when driving with different load and deployment of it? the pattern is changing and I don't believe that each time you regulating it manually. However there also guys that put some hids in clios, fiestas etc, they don't need projector headlight as well also they're happy with them. You can say anything, MOT isn't a problem at all, on last of mine they didn't even done co2 test so... about flashing not everyone doing it because TBH wrong and shouldn't be done. As said if you wanna get peace of mind and got good job done fit them as well. But is your choice.
 
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what about your levelling when driving with different load and deployment of it? the pattern is changing and I don't believe that each time you regulating it manually. However there also guys that put some hids in clios, fiestas etc, they don't need projector headlight as well also they're happy with them. You can say anything, MOT isn't a problem at all, on last of mine they didn't even done co2 test so... about flashing not everyone doing it because TBH wrong and shouldn't be done. As said if you wanna get peace of mind and got good job done fit them as well. But is your choice.
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Every time Xenons are discussed there will always be people who disagree about the need to fit self-levelling etc.
Let's just say I disagree.
I've been going to the same MOT garage for the last 15 years and they test all 3 of my cars annually, they've confirmed what I've posted above that as long as they're aligned correctly then a retro-fitted Genuine xenon headlight or HID kit in a projector headlamp is perfectly legal.
This thread is about advice on fitting Xenons and comments about being "dodgy" which is what I presume you meant aren't particularly helpful imho.
Sorry if that sounds blunt.
 
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The law in almost any country, including UK, says that Xenon headlights (the standard 35w) require headlight washer & auto leveling.
(There are only a couple of countries that are not requiered to use them)

There are some New Xenon headlight that use a lower power ballast & bulb to provide up to 2000 Lumens (instead of 3000+ Lumens)
This new xenon headlights do not requiere headlight washer & auto leveling.

D5S are the bulbs used in this new headlights.
No headlight washer nor auto leveling requiered with them.
http://www.welldonehid.com/en/d5s/77-bulb-d5s-philips.html



To clarify about the client Nessy was mentioning with problems using our headlights...
This guy was complaining about our headlights being badly made & not fiting his car.
Later on (after many false accusations) he finally confirmed that his car was involved in an accident and it was repaired.
Which explaing a lot.
Since we have sold hundreds of this headlights previously & not one client have ever complained.

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I can't comment on the fitment, MOT history on the car suggests it was driven into and repaired at that corner, never recorded as a cat write off though, I never knew until last week when I checked online out of interest. Could be that...
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This is what other clients in UK think about the headlights.

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welldonehid said:
The law in almost any country, including UK, says that Xenon headlights (the standard 35w) require headlight washer & auto leveling.
(There are only a couple of countries that are not requiered to use them)
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If you are referring to new vehicles then yes, you need all of the above from the factory.....
There is NO such requirement for retro-fitted xenons in the UK........that is why vehicles will pass an MOT test perfectly legally & legitimately without headlamp levelling & headlamp washers.
 
retro fitted mean that you fit the unit as factory does, so if you fitting xenons for e.g. a3 that originally got the levellers and washers, you should, but as said if it pass on mot don't mean it's legally all the time, because most of them don't even care about it or simply don't know, another example tinting front windows (that's illegal because by law they need to get >70% transparency and they got it by themselves so also putting the transparent foil in theory is illegal) but still seeing them everywhere and passing mot. And just to finish because is useless explain to you as you're pointed only on"because it pass mot is legal", just hopefully you don't get caught by cops that actually know the regulatory law about it.
 
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I highly doubt it.
Retrofiting the Xenon headlights only without the requiered accessories is not legal.

Passing the MOT doesn't mean anything.
It's just that either they don't care, they don't know the laws or they didn't see it.
The law is equal for everybody, car makers & users.
+2000 Lumens requiere washer & autoleveling.
 
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No offence guys, but my MOT tester has been qualified as a tester for many years and I trust what he tells me when he says what will pass an MOT test under the current VOSA regulations, and my xenon lights do.
If there was any problem with my xenons he would tell me in no uncertain terms and would not pass the car during an MOT as it would put his job on the line.
He conducts MOT tests for a living and I think his knowledge is greater on the topic than any of us 'armchair experts'.....
 
I agree with Nessy. You don't have to fit washers and levellers on retrofits, the big BUT is, if they are fitted, they have to work.
 
I was at a garage recently who have been doing MOT's for 25 years (Crane Garage - Sealand - Chester) and they told me my car would fail the MOT with my current headlights, due to lack of washers and auto level. Ie if I take it there they will fail me.

Audi main dealer told me the same thing last week.

I had to throw out my oem ones so the hunt for some cheap ones begins before november (MOT time).

As for welldonehid, lying again I see. Yes my car has been repaired it seems. As for "no one else has ever complained" yet again how do you explain the hundreds of forums you are banned from that are full of complaints? Instead you post some facebook screenshot from some guy with a cartoon picture (scream fake much more?) and claim this means everyone is happy?

Example thread that show your perfect service

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/welldone-hids-not-very-welldone.204711/

Banned here
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...e-HID-kits&p=71070005&viewfull=1#post71070005

etc

As a bit of a long term review my headlights are "ok". I can't use full beam though - because if I have them set perfectly horizontally, the cut off from the right headlight means half the road is not illuminated under dipped beam (crap ECE cut offs) so I have to have them aligned all the way to the right, and now the hot spots...the left one is about eye level and the right one sits on the other side of the road, full beam just points about 40 degrees to the right! One credit to them though 5 months later my wipers still work so I guess this is one thing.

My fault for being impatient and not going with t8ups in the first place.

Not even going to sell them when I replace, I don't want someone else to have the headache!
 
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My fault for being impatient and not going with t8ups in the first place.
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T8ups is the luckiest guy in the world for not having to deal with you as a client.
I guess you would have become impatiente again & cancel your payment after he did his job.
And then talk **** about him like you have been doing with us all along...


Man, you have a problem... you have been lying & causing problems since day 1.
Ordered headlights to be prepared & shipped.
Once they are prepared & ready to pick up by UPS you try to cancel the payment.
Complaining about our Youtube installation video.
Complaining about fitting problems in a car that was involved in a crash.
Complaining about $$$ paid to a UK garage for installation.
The list of lies & paranoia is to long to mention.

Now you complain about other clients too???
Your dishonest "review" is better than their experience?

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And yes, we are banned in Vortex. I didn't even know it until you mentioned.
Years ago I saw dozens of A3 owners complaining about broken wiper motors & I explained them why they broke the motor.
Also told them that we had a special HID for A3, as everybody knows. (only option without high voltage cables)

Users in Vortex forum were very excited & they organized a Group Buy.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5997782-Group-Buy-on-Well-Done-HID-kit

Soon after Vortex was asking for money. $4200 /year
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I did not post any group buy in first place. Told them our market is Europe & not USA.
Shipping cost to US is prohivitive & we were not interested in paying $4200 to supply products to a few people.
Vortex started deleting users posts, avoiding users to talk about our product & avoiding them also to know about the wiper problem cause & how to solve it.
I never entered that forum since and I didn't know that they banned me later on.


I still get emails nowadays from A3 owners in US asking for help with their wiper motors.
This could be avoided by Vortex not hidding information from their ussers.

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You already know all this, since I explained to you by email but I guess you wouldn't be happy without all the attention & drama...
 
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You are the one who keep tagging my username in posts, then I see a little alert for it in the top right on this forum.

No lies on my part. Do you really want me to post all the pics of your conversations again?

All I did was leave an honest review, the key being honest, with all the screenshots of you insulting me in your emails.

I will allow karma to take care of you Daniel Frias.
 
The guy who made you open a PayPal dispute & go crazy on us has deleted his message from the forum.
He dropped some false accusation & then later removed the message like it never happened...
 
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