Anyone with a B9 Diesel on order?

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How many here have a B9 Diesel on order?
I have added the 272 Avant to my list of possibles and was wondering if there's any dampening of enthusiasm for the black stuff due to recent issues.
 
I've got a 190TDI sline avant on order for May build. I still don't see a viable alternative to diesel for high mileage business use. The latest Euro 6 spec diesels are much cleaner and should not be lumped in with the campaign against older dirty diesels.

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Yuppy, yes I was hoping that any clamp down would be for the older vehicles. I guess when the initial hohar dies down the Euro 6 and possible Euro 5 engines will be ok.

I don't really do high mileage but I like the extra grunt of the diesels to be honest and they don't require the extra work to keep them going like when the Dpf's started to appear. Any petrol engine would need to be quite powerful to compare with the grunt.
 
Yuppy, yes I was hoping that any clamp down would be for the older vehicles. I guess when the initial hohar dies down the Euro 6 and possible Euro 5 engines will be ok.
The new Ultra Low Emission Zone in London (which starts in 2020) will charge vehicles that are not EU 6 for diesel (EU 4 petrol).

EU6 target was a big reduction in NOx over EU5 for Diesels.
 
I still think diesel is "safe" in terms of resale value as they have the latest emissions standards and technology. If there's any impact, we'll see it hit older diesels first then perhaps a change to taxation/pricing on new vehicles.

I was tempted to get the petrol this time around but stuck with the diesel a small I like the driving style of the soot checkers!
 
Yuppy, yes I was hoping that any clamp down would be for the older vehicles. I guess when the initial hohar dies down the Euro 6 and possible Euro 5 engines will be ok.

I don't really do high mileage but I like the extra grunt of the diesels to be honest and they don't require the extra work to keep them going like when the Dpf's started to appear. Any petrol engine would need to be quite powerful to compare with the grunt.
I had a A3 1.4 petrol, had more power and more 'grunt' than a 1.6 diesel. Didn't smell and did the the same mpg and no dpf to worry about. I am sure diesel owners will disagree but I have owned both and it you don't do the mileage then consider a petrol as you really do not notice a difference under normal driving conditions...
 
I switched to Petrol after owning diesels for 10 years, and a high mileage driver (have so far done 14k in 6 months in my 2.0 TFSI).

I switched because for a company car the BIK % worked out better for me, and because I get a fuel card it helps offset reduced MPG.

The last diesel I paid for fuel (2010 Citroen C4 1.6HDI) on I was getting ~60mpg. So there is a fair difference in the MPG, but i feel it's much 'cleaner' as I don't have the choking diesel exhaust fumes anymore.

If it was my money, I would have probably stuck with another Diesel for economics.


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Cuke I see your point but..
if I was going down the diesel route then it would be the 272 V6, I would need the 252 TFSI if going for petrol for similar performance. This clocks in at £20-30 more per month (Due to residuals) and I would imagine based on my old focus ST estate, a good £50 more in fuel.
I'm currently driving our Mondeo diesel and am having a sort of rekindled friendship with the black stuff.

As for the Dpf, they seem a lot more easy going than when they first appeared. The Mondeo has spent almost 2 years doing 4mile commutes with the misses and the occasional longer run with no issues whatsoever
 
For a low mileage company car in the 40pc bracket a C350e or Passat GTE with a fuel card would be a no brainer in my opinion. The tax savings are too big to ignore.

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The new Ultra Low Emission Zone in London (which starts in 2020) will charge vehicles that are not EU 6 for diesel (EU 4 petrol).

EU6 target was a big reduction in NOx over EU5 for Diesels.
Any they suddenly forgot that diesel is significantly lower on Co2.

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They're blaming diesels for all this poor air quality and smog that lingers in cities. So how is it still such a massive problem in the US where only around 3% of vehicles on the road are actually diesel engined?

Something just doesn't ring true for me with the some of the outright scare stories surrounding diesel at the minute. It's almost as if someone, somewhere, has a vested interest. I just can't figure out what yet.

Call me paranoid, but history is littered with corporate greed overriding the health of a nation. If anyone researches the history of removing tetraethyl lead from petrol then they'll see that for many many years the motor industry put their own interests above everyone elses.

15 years ago we were told that in order to save the planet "clean" diesels were the future. Now we're being told that they got it wrong and that the not so green petrol is now the way forward.

Given how many people die from air pollution per year versus terrorism, you'd think there'd be a concerted effort to tackle that. Surely given similar amounts of funding EV technology would come to the fore and offer a real clean air alternative to fossil fuels?

For what it's worth I took delivery of a 190PS diesel on March 1 this year. I don't think you'll regret the 272 diesel one bit, and remember, any govt opting to hammer 50% of the driving public 3 years from a general election would potentially be committing political suicide!

How much extra CO² would be generated building new cars to replace all the diesels on the road also?

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I don't think any government will hammer all diesel owners and from what I am reading it is the oldest and most polluting engines they are looking at taking off the road. Currently there is a political blame game going on and many myths are being perpertrated to supported these theories, as is usual once politicians add their own agenda's into the argument. Then there is the media that, by generating scare headlines, wish to sell newspapers...
 
For urban driving a petrol, hybrid or even electric is the way to go.

If you are doing lots of motorway miles then a diesel is probably a better option.

Even Euro6 diesels emit a fair amount of particulates and they are at their worst in the warm up cycle.

I have a Golf GTE for local journeys (mostly on electric) and use the Audi for long journeys.
 
I have an A4 Allroad sport 3.0 TDI on order. I think the days of 6 cylinder diesel cars are numbered. It's really only BMW and Audi producing them now, so see this as getting my last fix.
 
EU6 diesel engines are limited to the same about of particulate emissions as their petrol counterparts.

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I have an A4 Allroad sport 3.0 TDI on order. I think the days of 6 cylinder diesel cars are numbered. It's really only BMW and Audi producing them now, so see this as getting my last fix.

From what i've read its the diesels under 2litres that are to be phased out. The bigger engines are apparently easier to keep within the restrictions.
 
EU6 diesel engines are limited to the same about of particulate emissions as their petrol counterparts.

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Petrol engines are going to have a particulate filter as well and the VW group have already planned to fit them to some of their vehicles this year http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volksw...add-particulate-filters-to-its-petrol-engines.
http://www.lubricants.total.com/news/new-gasoline-particulate-filters-gpf.html
However they will not have the regeneration issues a diesel has because a petrol engine runs much hotter..
 
but i feel it's much 'cleaner' as I don't have the choking diesel exhaust fumes anymore.
The amount of c02 you're pumping out means it's certainly not any better for the environment. There was a reason why drivers were encouraged to buy diesel instead of petrol but it appears widespread collective amnesia has taken hold of us all
 
Petrol engines are going to have a particulate filter as well and the VW group have already planned to fit them to some of their vehicles this year http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volksw...add-particulate-filters-to-its-petrol-engines.
http://www.lubricants.total.com/news/new-gasoline-particulate-filters-gpf.html
However they will not have the regeneration issues a diesel has because a petrol engine runs much hotter..
Interesting read!

For the past two and a half years my main commute to and from work is an 8 mile trek on a 50mph section of the A1. It takes around ten minutes. I probably should have gone petrol this time round but loved my A3 184 TDI. But, between both cars (A4 now has 1300 miles on it) regeneration of the dpf has not presented itself as an issue to me. Is this due to improved technology or the way I'm driving it?

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I think the engines are plumped differently to allow the Dpf to heat up quick. Manifold in head or something like that.

I think diesel cars are and will be financially punished in the very near future..that's why I'm goin back to petrol

General opinion is that older models will bear the brunt. Any government that punishes euro 6 drivers will have trouble on their hands come election year.
Anyways the city low emission zones that are planned are 3 or so years away and wont affect the newer diesels.
 
The amount of c02 you're pumping out means it's certainly not any better for the environment. There was a reason why drivers were encouraged to buy diesel instead of petrol but it appears widespread collective amnesia has taken hold of us all

119 g/km for the TFSI over 109 g/km for the 190ps TDI (S-Line S-Tronic models) is little to split hairs about imo - particularly as CO2 is not the most harmful Diesel particulate which has come out of the recent findings...


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Anyway. Back on topic. Whos got a b9 diesel on order or planning to get one. Without sounding rude theres alot of tfsi owners chiming in.

Please dont take that the wrong way. ASN threads seem to deviate too easily.
 
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My next car is going to be electric, very nearly bought a Tesla but just too big a car but the technology and performance is streets ahead of other car manufacturers.

I know its still uses electricity which creates co2 in most forms of production but an increasing percentage is from renewables and localised emissions are zero. Lets hope Audi's forthcoming electric car is a step forwards.
 
My next car is going to be electric, very nearly bought a Tesla but just too big a car but the technology and performance is streets ahead of other car manufacturers.

I know its still uses electricity which creates co2 in most forms of production but an increasing percentage is from renewables and localised emissions are zero. Lets hope Audi's forthcoming electric car is a step forwards.
Take a look at the Tesla Model 3, which is due for launch later this year.
 
I don't have a new A4 on order yet, but I too am having the same thoughts. The 190 tdi Quattro is the likely option, but will test drive a petrol variant to see what I think. I haven't driven the 190 tdi Quattro either, but I am told it is very good, so it looks likely this will be what opt for.