RS6 to BITDI Caliper & Wavey disc Upgrade.

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Hello all,

Im beginning this thread to show practical application of the RS6 to BITDI Caliper & Wavey discs retrofit.
Swapping out BITDI standard system for a full front and rear RS6 c7 calliper & 390 mm waves discs set.
Picture and details to follow .
 
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Rear brackets need to be grinded of slightly.. then plugplay... fronts are easy swap...
 
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Belong said:
Rear brackets need to be grinded of slightly.. then plugplay... fronts are easy swap...
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Thanks appreciate the input. The Rs6 calliper arrived without the carriers. I now have to work out if the original BITDI ones will be useable.
Also the dust shield at the back i thin maybe needed to be swapped out. What I can se from the parts breakdown it is required to remove the driveshaft hub where the wheel bolts onto to achieve this or to cut the new dust shield to allow it slot on without hub removal.

Im also told that the front calliper stay require a different length brake hose. It apparently require to be longer. I will have two investigate and works this out.
 
Hmm that sucks.. what did you pay for the brakeset if i can ask?

Brakehose is the easy part, get some nice aftermarket ones which are braided (cheap)
Normally the dust shield is easily swapped by just undoing 2 x M10 bolts , and thats it :D

Ive had so many cars with mega brake upgrades, you can also cut the dustshields you have now with a angle grinder to make room for the bigger caliper, Audi charged quite a few quid for those 2 simple shields.

Best thing is to really source the RS6 brackets.. the Bitdi are useless to work with the rs6 calipers
 
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Bad news that the calipers have no carriers. There is no way your existing carriers will fit those calipers unfortunately.
Also had a quick look at the parts listing and the carriers don't appear to be available as a seperate item.
As far as rear brake shields I would just modify the existing items or remove them. It won't be an issue.
 
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I paid only £800 for 4 callipers pads and only three discs - 1 front is missing. New set are £550 each front disc but u found 2 new ones in a pair original VAG for £600 - that bits easy. The carrier i will track down and the brake shields i will buy from audi direct. It'll take some time to put all the pieces together and prepare for the install etc etc.
 
desertstorm said:
Bad news that the calipers have no carriers. There is no way your existing carriers will fit those calipers unfortunately.
Also had a quick look at the parts listing and the carriers don't appear to be available as a seperate item.
As far as rear brake shields I would just modify the existing items or remove them. It won't be an issue.
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I will source carriers plenty off Rs6 C7 breaking out there. They are direct plug and play apart from the hoses and dust shields.
 
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yes fronts are direct plugplay.. rear need minimal grinding off of the bracket, but is very easy...

so the complete swap is 95% plugplay :D
 
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Most of the time people don't want to split carriers and calipers as the calipers are not much use to people on their own.
But you may get lucky. Either way they are not likely to be cheap as anything with RS in the title is subject to the RS tax.
 
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Morning,

Yes your 100 % i was at Audi parts on Saturday. No separate supply - bummer.
Will chase down seller again today and see if he has them lying somewhere if not I've found couple of companies/people who reverse engineer the carriers. Will post update of that process as we travel.
On dust shields they are approx £140 for set of 4 - 2 front 2 rear. Brake hoses £40 each. So not too bad on that front. I can live with that.
Ive decided to send callipers away for professional repainting as they are a bit scraped in places. £400
Will need new pads front and rear £200 front and £80 rear.

It'll be at least 2 months before i go for install due to other commitments. But in that time i will plant and bring all materials together for the install day.



desertstorm said:
Bad news that the calipers have no carriers. There is no way your existing carriers will fit those calipers unfortunately.
Also had a quick look at the parts listing and the carriers don't appear to be available as a seperate item.
As far as rear brake shields I would just modify the existing items or remove them. It won't be an issue.
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Morning
 
That will be easily seen when installing and then easily done with the anglegrinder ;)
 
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So I've found a pair of RS5 carriers. I have to try and verify if they are the same before committing to buy. Anyone know if they are the same ?
 
Mr AUDI said:
So I've found a pair of RS5 carriers. I have to try and verify if they are the same before committing to buy. Anyone know if they are the same ?
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I think you will struggle with the RS5 carriers, since the disk size (therefore the callipers) are larger on the RS6 set up, although they are both Brembo's. RS5 front Brembos are 356x34mm, on the RS6 they are 390x36mm

Its difficult to tell from EKTA if they are the same, since there are no part numbers listed, and the diagrams tend to be generic rather than actual representations.

RS5 Here
RS6 Here
 
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Thankyou so much. :) If you look closely its clear the carriers are different between the RS5 & RS6 in those pictures . I found a company this morning who are coming back to me for reverse engineered RS6 C7 carriers.

RAF_S7 said:
I think you will struggle with the RS5 carriers, since the disk size (therefore the callipers) are larger on the RS6 set up, although they are both Brembo's. RS5 front Brembos are 356x34mm, on the RS6 they are 390x36mm

Its difficult to tell from EKTA if they are the same, since there are no part numbers listed, and the diagrams tend to be generic rather than actual representations.

RS5 Here
RS6 Here
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I actually spoke to them this morning and got a good quote. I only need the front callipers painted. The rears need very minor touch up which i can do with a small brush.
One of the callipers i have has had some fairly bad scrapping to the paint presumably this is why the set came with inly 3 discs - i am imaging he other disc was shattered on impact.

Man thanks for the pointer and recommendation.
 
My set with scraped calliper nearest to you. It also has a snapped missing lower metal brake pipe that brake calliper specialist quoted me for replacing.

IMG 1600
 
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I found a supplier for the carriers they will be reversed engineered. Will update as it progresses.
 
No joy with killer brakes they are sourcing from the same people i have had conversations with. Luckily i have found guy who has direct access to the OEM carriers and is making exact copies of them for me

RAF_S7 said:
You could try these guys for calliper carriers. Seems the OEM carriers are manufactured by Brembo.

http://www.killerbrakes.com
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Found guy in Poland who made me a set of carriers. Due to arrive next week.

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Can any one tell me the purpose of the grey
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wheels fitted to the inside of the front callipers ?
 
Used Audi RS6 from calliper OEM carriers @ £600. These are the only ones available i can find on the net and they just came up on eBay 2 weeks ago. They are rarer than hens teeth and no one inclusion Brembo will sell you them.

Aesthetically i like my copies a lot better and they also cost me less than half the price of the OEM ones.

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Today ordered other parts below needed for upgrade today as follows:

Trade prices. All genuine VAG and new RS6 C7
  • Front back plates £ 27.19 each x 2
  • Rear back plates £29.68 each
  • Bolts £0.40 each x 8
  • Rear pads £78.62 x1
  • Brake hoses £17.46 x2
  • Pin kits £29.68 each x2
Total: £276.57 inc


Expenditure upto this point
  • £1150 for calipers and discs with full set of pads. From written off RS6. Replacing rear pads as wear sensor cable is missing from one of them.
  • £276.57 conversion parts. new
  • £250 for professional repainting 4 calliper with RS logo on them.
  • Calliper carriers new custom £250
  • Brake build £20
Total: £1,946.57

OEM New from Audi
  • Front callipers pair £2500
  • Rear Callipers pair £1400
  • Front and read wavey discs and pads £1700
  • £276.57 conversion parts. new
  • Brake fluid £20
Total £5896.57

Saving against new £3950.00

I will refurb my own BITDI callipers with professional painting inc RS Logo at cost of ( £250). Sell for £1250 for full set of Red callipers,discs and pads, front and rear back plates and front calliper brake hoses.
Currently there is one set of SQ5 front calliper going for £750 on eBay.

Add the£1000 profit from selling original callipers to the £3950.
Projected saving against OEM is £4950 on cost of £5896.57


Total final install price for my RS6 callipers will be £946.57
 
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Fronts only minus pads.
i haven't seen any rear solutions out there.

DESCRIPTION
MTM brake 405x36mm front for Brembo 6 pistonmonoblock - calipers Brake disks granulated, add-on-parts !! Attention: minimum 20 Audi wheel necessary !!

COMPARISION MTM-PERFORMANCE VS. SERIES-PERFORMANCE
Criterion MTM Series
brake caliper 6 Kolben 6 Kolben
disk diametre 405 mm 390 mm
disk-thick 36 mm 36 mm
3,975.00 EUR
incl. VAT 19%

Kitnum
m-2rs6bre405vk
Installation cost
396.00 EUR
Installation time
3,50 Std
Guarantee
MTM Guarantee
Certificate
TÜV-Gutachten
Shipping time
4--6 weeks

Rhyso said:
Out of interest what's the cost of an aftermarket solution?
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Again fronts only no pads.

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/A6-C7/3-0-BiTDI-230kW-313hp-quattro?FZID=a6c7tdi230q

AUDI TUNING | A6 TUNING | 3,0 BITDI 230KW (313PS) QUATTRO | MTM- BRAKE 405X36 MM WITH BREMBO 6 PISTON
DESCRIPTION
MTM-Brembo brake 405x36 mm front includes: Brake disks granulated, breaklines, 6-Piston Brembo-Caliper, add-on-parts the wheel size need to be 20!

COMPARISION MTM-PERFORMANCE VS. SERIES-PERFORMANCE
Criterion MTM Series
brake caliper 6 Kolben
disk diametre 405 mm
disk-thick 36 mm
6,401.00 EUR
incl. VAT 19%

Kitnum
m-2a6bre405vk
Installation cost
396.00 EUR
Installation time
3,50 Std
Guarantee
MTM Guarantee
Certificate
TÜV-Gutachten
Shipping time
4--6 weeks
 
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Carriers arrived in my absence. Look good. 250 euro.

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Calipers arrived back from refurb.

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