Manual Gearbox oil query?

Give opie oils a call mate, for that price they can sort you an oil for your gearbox and you'll know it will be spot on, 10% of audi sport members
 
Woah stand down...Mineral !!

Find out the gearbox oil spec first , I'm presuming manual ?

Sometimes it's superceded so double check , stealer , TPS and numerous oil choosers from reputable oil companies.

It will be either G 052 171 or G 052 911 .
 
Woah stand down...Mineral !!

Find out the gearbox oil spec first , I'm presuming manual ?

Sometimes it's superceded so double check , stealer , TPS and numerous oil choosers from reputable oil companies.

It will be either G 052 171 or G 052 911 .

Well I was hoping to find out what I needed on here but response was very slow. I liked to think that I was on top of all the oil specs but it seems to be getting more complex all the time, so many different manufacturers using bespoke oils for their cars resulting in a bewildering range of oil types, specs and viscosity.
The gearbox is a manual 5 speed residing in a 2002 1.8t Quattro. I lost a little oil when I changed the clutch and I'd rather change it than top it up for peace of mind.
The latest contender, http://www.emotorspares.co.uk/ecommerce/product/Millers-TRX-Synth-75w90-5252GS.aspx

I'd appreciate your opinion Gaz.
 
Good oil no doubt , Millers and Fuchs and alike , two specialist lubricants .

I would edge towards a 75W80 synthetic as the lower viscosity especially from cold makes the gears change smoother .

Really must find out that gearbox oil spec and from multiple entities .

Then a good decision can be made .

If you're topping up you might as well drain and change the lot .
 
I definately wouldn't bother with the Mannol oil it's a very poor spec. Millers oil is much better. Most people normally go for Fuchs Titan Sintofluid or Castrol Syntrans.
 
Replies much appreciated guys, as stated, I'd rather change it than top up, you know what's in there that way, peace of mind for me, thanks again.
 
The standard Audi oil is 75w90. The 1L code is G 052 911 A2, which costs around £20, whereas the 0.5L code is G 052 911 A1. The 1.8T needs ~2.2liters.

I can understand going with an aftermarket oil if you're on a budget (nobody's been able to track down the OE supplier AFAIK), but not using a different viscosity. I've driven my car at -20C and +40C in the shade, and the OE Audi oil has never disappointed. Yes, the lower viscosity w80 helps when it's cold (a negligible amount of time?), but screws you when it's hot (95% of the time?). I'm sure Audi would have made a hot country - cold country differentiation, like they did with engine oils, had it been needed.
 
I don't think there is any loss of protection between a quality oe 80 or 90 .

Cold shift quality and less drag with the 80 .

90 is good for track like Redline MT90 , but...

Is G 052 911 really a 75W90 because it sure won't say it on the bottle and a non existent data sheet , it's nothing short of expensive snake oil .
 
The standard Audi oil is 75w90. The 1L code is G 052 911 A2, which costs around £20, whereas the 0.5L code is G 052 911 A1. The 1.8T needs ~2.2liters.

I can understand going with an aftermarket oil if you're on a budget (nobody's been able to track down the OE supplier AFAIK), but not using a different viscosity. I've driven my car at -20C and +40C in the shade, and the OE Audi oil has never disappointed. Yes, the lower viscosity w80 helps when it's cold (a negligible amount of time?), but screws you when it's hot (95% of the time?). I'm sure Audi would have made a hot country - cold country differentiation, like they did with engine oils, had it been needed.

Always thought the OE was Castrol
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/recommended-oil
 
Volkswagen Gear Oil Specifications
VW G 009 317
Gear oil for mechanical and automatic 6 gear transmissions.
VW G 052 145 A2
Special synthetic gear oil with SAE 75W90 viscosity for front and rear differentials, including limited slip differentials.
VW G 052 162 A2
Special ATF with viscosity modifier. Suitable for 4 and 5 gear ZF automatic transmissions. Not suitable for 6 gear transmissions.
VW G 052 171
SAE 70W75 viscosity gear oil.
VW G 052 171 A2
Special gear oil designed for the manual transmissions of cars with transverse engines.
VW G 052 175
Special working fluid for Haldex clutches. Developed by Haldex and Statoil.
VW G 052 178
Gear oil with SAE 75W viscosity.
VW G 052 180 A2
Special gear oil for Audi Multitronic transmissions.
VW G 052 182 (VW TL 521 82)
Special gear oil for certain DSG dual clutch transmissions.
VW G 052 190 A2
Special VW gear oil for Multitronic CVT transmissions.
VW G 052 726
Monograde gear oil with SAE 75W viscosity.
VW G 052 798
SAE 70W75 viscosity gear oil.
VW G 052 911
Audi specification for transmissions used with longitudinal engine configurations. Products meeting this specification are of SAE 75W90 viscosity
VW G 052 990
Special ATF for automatic transmissions combined with differentials.
VW G 055 005
Special ATF for VW automatic transmissions and transaxles.
VW G 055 145
Transmission oil with 3% Sturaco additive.
VW G 055 162
Special ATF for VW automatic transmissions and transaxles.
VW G 055 175 A2
Special working fluid for Haldex clutches. Developed by Haldex and Statoil.

and to quote from the previous link I posted
And finally…when in doubt, go for the OEM fluid. OEM MTF is a decent product. The OEM stuff is actually a European-only formula sold by Castrol and rebranded for Audi/VW.
 
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When in doubt use rip off oem gearbox oil , they want £24.90 1L for mine , no thank you !

Having read the article there's a few problems with it , the do not use GL5 under any circumstances is not true and out of date .

GL4 does have less EP additives namely sulphur that can attack yellow metals on the synchromeshes , but it's the level of sulphur that's important , it still has sulphur that's why it pen and inks .

The level of sulphur is the case for certain GL5's as some are aimed at manual transmission some with more EP additives at diffs .

Ever seen a gearbox oil marked up as a GL4 and 5 or a GL4+ ?

Classic example is my original spec 501.50 also known as G50 or G 005 000 and it is a GL4 75W90 has now been superceded as checked both with a stealer and TPS to be G 052 911 which is a GL5 75W90 also found as oe 75W80 by a couple of manufacturers that have decided that 75W90 is way to thick and quite rightly so , which brings me onto the next subject - viscosity .

Now 75W90 is thick stuff I've 75W90 in the form of Redline MT90 in a Jap petrol turbo and these Fast n furious cars get thrashed around a track and drifted . As the name suggests but not always the case MT90 is 90 Centistokes at 40°C which is thick , despite the lable saying
  • Eliminates notchy shifting
  • Designed for manual transmissions and transaxles
  • Perfect synchronizer coefficient of friction
  • Enables high-speed downshifting
  • Excellent shifting even when cold
I've got stiff lower shifts when cold , hot it disappears , classic cold viscosity issue as the previous gearbox oil whatever that was didn't have the issue.
I may try when I get it back on the road the lighter Redline version MTL .

Now why do you need a 75W90 in a road car - you don't , that's why two oe went 75W80 and VW produced G 052 171 a 70W75 for those experiencing poor cold shifting .

So you could even use that.... but don't buy rip off genuine...