Can I tell the health of my EGR valve from a freeze frame?

G Man

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Hi Folks,

Car (2011 Audi A3 8p 2l TDI) went into limp mode the other week and VCDS shows up two fault codes for the EGR valve - auto scan below.

Does the freeze frame information let you troubleshoot much further without removing the EGR valve for a visual inspection?

Thanks,
G

Code:
Monday,20,February,2017,16:49:14:25115
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170107 DS267.0
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Mileage: 133620km-83027mi   Repair Order:


Chassis Type: 8P (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 61 62 72 77

   Mileage: 133620km-83027miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 AB    HW: 03L 906 018 AG
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H24 9979 
   Revision: 41H24---    Serial number: AUX7Z0K5FN60P2
   Coding: 00190012040501080000
   Shop #: WSC 62225 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018AB 003012
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018AB.rod
   VCID: 6ADBC2DD8D1DF2115D-803E

2 Faults Found:
4891 - EGR Valve (N18)
          P0403 00 [032] - Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 132598 km
                    Date: 2017.02.02
                    Time: 13:44:36

                    Engine speed: 841.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 20.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 83 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 14 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 970 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.700 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 13
                    Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 444.8 mg/stroke
                    EGR Vacuum Regulator Solenoid Valve: activation: 100.00 %
                    EGR solenoid valve: actual value: 84.28 %
                    EGR valve: offset closed: 6.12 %
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bit 0: 00000000
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bit 16: 00010000
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bit 24: 00110111
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bit 8: 00000111
                    High press EGR actuator: actual unconditioned volt val: 1288.2 mV

4892 - EGR Valve (N18)
          P0403 00 [032] - Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 132598 km
                    Date: 2017.02.02
                    Time: 13:44:35

                    Engine speed: 831.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 19.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 83 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 14 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 970 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.660 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 13
                    Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 271.4 mg/stroke
                    EGR Vacuum Regulator Solenoid Valve: activation: 15.00 %
                    EGR solenoid valve: actual value: 53.39 %
                    EGR valve: offset closed: 6.12 %
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bit 0: 00000000
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bit 16: 00000000
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bit 24: 00110111
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bit 8: 00000111
                    High press EGR actuator: actual unconditioned volt val: 2214.8 mV

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: 1342401209220003C80F02EC901F0092380800
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 7BF5F799FA877B99B6-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 BM    HW: 8P0 820 043 BM
   Component: KlimavollautomatH09 0170 
   Revision: 000155      Serial number: 8P0820043BM   
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFE8950BB15081DB-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8P0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 N    HW: 8P0 907 063 N
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   110 0653 
   Revision: 00110 AF   
   Coding: 4E000A2FA005F0C0207041E00400095C42DE2BAA204DD12AE4008F840041
   Shop #: WSC 06314 123 12345
   VCID: 3F8D4389AE1FA7B9DA-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8P2 955 119 F    HW: 8P2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350  H11 0050
   Coding: 00DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8P0 951 177
   Component: Innenraumuebe  H04 0020

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssenso  005 0003

1 Fault Found:
00332 - Control Circuit for Tank Flap
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 122
                    Mileage: 126334 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.09
                    Time: 09:10:00

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.60 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8P0-959-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 S    HW: 8P0 959 655 S
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H09 0250 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003JU002FEKH
   Coding: 30314238303830303037554A305238503053
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: 52AB7A3D058D5AD105-8006

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3572DRB40000DB88D8CG

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 3582DRB40000DBD0A0B2

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
   Serial number: 35128RB400006317F1EM

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
   Serial number: 35228RB4000063057B5D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 35547RB40000642E14CN

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 35647RB40000642AD36P

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 K    HW: 8P0 953 549 K
   Component: J0527           H37 0070 
   Coding: 0004012
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 4683566D31C5F67199-8012

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           H06 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 983     HW: 8P0 920 983
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0150 
   Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: 2245K002001131
   Coding: 0260428
   Shop #: WSC 01183 210 94666
   VCID: 77FDEBA906AF5FF9D2-8022

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 126334 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.09
                    Time: 08:46:38


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 J    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H43 1620 
   Revision:   H43       Serial number: 290511F1003442
   Coding: 352103
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 377D2BA9862F9FF912-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 983     HW: 8P0 920 983
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0150 
   Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: AUX7Z0K5FN60P2
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77FDEBA906AF5FF9D2-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 Q    HW: 8P0 959 801 Q
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101 
   Coding: 0131764
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 49995D5120DB190974-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 233    3201 
   Revision: 00H20000   
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 34671CA5575974E137-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 Q    HW: 8P0 959 802 Q
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101 
   Coding: 0131764
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 4A9B625D25DD12117D-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 8P3 907 357 B
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000013
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3C7734857F09BCA1FF-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 AB    HW: 8P0 035 186 AB
   Component: R Concert2+     H03 0293 
   Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: AUZ1Z3L2310596
   Coding: 0710101
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 72EBDABD6DCD3AD1E5-8026

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 66
                    Mileage: 132954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.02.09
                    Time: 18:12:57


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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Batt.regelung H43 1620 
   Serial number: 290511F1003442
   Coding: F30B185A
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 71E9D5B1A8CB01C91C-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 F    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0150
   Serial number: 00000000009370557710

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 F    HW: 8P4 959 801 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050 
   Coding: 0131216
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 428B4A7D1DEDCA51B5-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 F    HW: 8P4 959 802 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050 
   Coding: 0131216
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 43854F7902F7C359BE-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P1 862 335 A    HW: 8P1 862 335
   Component: FSE_256x BT     H44 0660 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005402571
   Coding: 0001222
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 356121A15C236DE900-8060

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:22)--------------------------

At the time of taking the auto scan:

Code:
  IDE00586   Deviation of exhaust gas recirculation rate -0.8 %
  IDE01361   Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) cooler pump: specified value 93.82 %
  IDE01363-ENG104207   Exhaust gas recirculation: shut-off conditions-Bit 0 11110101 
  IDE01363-ENG102612   Exhaust gas recirculation: shut-off conditions-Bit 16 00000000 
  IDE01363-ENG101717   Exhaust gas recirculation: shut-off conditions-Bit 24 00000000 
  IDE01363-ENG101796   Exhaust gas recirculation: shut-off conditions-Bit 8 00000111 
  IDE03383   Exhaust mass flow of EGR 18.1 kg/h
 
Hi G Man

what happened with your car if you don't mind me asking I am having the same issue and have been advised that the EGR needs replacing and been quoted £600..


what did you use to get all the diagnostic info?
 
Hi G Man

what happened with your car if you don't mind me asking I am having the same issue and have been advised that the EGR needs replacing and been quoted £600..


what did you use to get all the diagnostic info?

Hi SidH,

In the end I couldn't troubleshoot further with VCDS and put it into Audi for a diagnostic, they confirmed my suspicions that the main EGR valve and cooler need replaced.

£600 is a good price for the work as it's a pretty large job labour wise.
 
how much did they charge you if you don't mind me asking?
 
I've been looking into it more im thinking of doing a full deletion and a re-map.
 
I've been looking into it more im thinking of doing a full deletion and a re-map.

What did you decide in the end? Problem I see with the EGR delete and map is you still have to spend all the labour time blanking it off, for all that work you're as well replacing it - my thoughts anyway.