Could the new A5 Coupe turn your head?

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It may be sacrilege on this particular forum, but If I didn't need 5 seats, i'd be sorely tempted by the new A5 Coupe. I don't like the look of the A5 fastback, but If I just needed a 2 plus 2 I could well push the boat out for the coupe. I imagine that from up front, the cabin would appear pretty much indistinguishable from the A4; but the lines of the new A5 look superb. I'd be interested to see if any of the B9 owners have experience of the new A5. As I say, it's a pipe dream for me, because it will be many years before I can get away with 4 seats!
 
Not intending to offend the OP, or the moderators, but seeing as my post about paintwork swirls on my A4 was moved maybe the moderators should move this one as well?
 
cuke2u said:
Not intending to offend the OP, or the moderators, but seeing as my post about paintwork swirls on my A4 was moved maybe the moderators should move this one as well?
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I have returned your post to its original area for you. :)
 
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No offence taken @cuke2u, but we all love audis and there are years of Audi ownership experience on this board. I thought twice about the post because this is not the place (generally) for A5 discussion. I was just interested to tap in to views of those with far more Audi experience than me. I came from a Mazda and love my A4. I was just curious, that's all.
 
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If the new A5 was available when I got my A4 I'd have been in that instead of what I'm in now.
 
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To be honest it doesn't do anything for me, not entirely sure why.

I do think the bonnet and headlights remind me of the current Mondeo though, with the LED light option.


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Priced too high for my liking, yes the looks are better but it's more or less all the same behind the steering wheel and it's a 3 door, the sportsback to me is even more suitable and nicer to look at though..
 
It's a little higher priced but the options are cheaper than the A4 - also interestingly the MMI in the A6 is touch screen!

Other than that it looks identical inside so it seems like they 'raided the parts bin' a little to me.


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By alot, I priced up one to the same spec as my car and it came to £42,750, thats a three door and I need a four door which comes to at least £47,000 for the sportback which, to my eyes, is more attractive than the coupe. My own A4's list price was £38,300.
 
And although the A4 is a 5 seater, I wouldn't want to undergo a long journey in the middle seat of the rear bench, so it seems to me that the loss of a seat by comparison with the A4 is no great loss. I won't be getting an A5 though as I need the load carrying aspect of the A4 Avant from time to time. In fact I'm helping my son move flat on Sunday.
 
It is the loss of two doors for a 89 year lady that is my problem, not the seating..
 
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This is what I think every time I see the new A5...


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As the Mondeo is probably one of the best looking cars in this class I reckon it should be taken as a compliment. I remember the A3 saloon coming in for similar criticism when it first came out and it was being compared to a Triumph Toledo. To be honest, does it really matter?
 
I had an S5 prior to my current RS3 and was always against 4 or 5 door cars favouring 2 door hatch or coupe's.

The Sportback has totally changed my view of this now and I am loving the practicality and usability of 4/5 door cars.

The S5 doors were HUGE and squeezing out of my car in the garage or tight car park spaces was a nightmare.

The tiny RS3 front doors are a breath of fresh air and I can easily use the rear seats for bags / coats with ease.

Small things maybe but I am totally converted :)

Even so, having compared the new S4 v S5 I have to confess to preferring the lines and styling of the S4 better.

I much prefer the lights on the front of the S4 for starters and find the S5 lights far less aggressive or attractive.

The front grille also looks better on the 4 than the 5 for me also.

Alloys better on the 4.

4 is cheaper.

As far as I am aware the interior is identical on both cars yeah ?

So me for it is the 4 all the way :yes:
 
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Fair point, does it matter that the new A5 looks like the Mondeo? yes, I think it does.
 
cuke2u said:
As the Mondeo is probably one of the best looking cars in this class I reckon it should be taken as a compliment. I remember the A3 saloon coming in for similar criticism when it first came out and it was being compared to a Triumph Toledo. To be honest, does it really matter?
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I agree that the Mondeo actually isn't a bad looking car at all. But, as you rightly said, that's 'in it's class' which I don't think the A5 falls into. The A5 is designed to be a coupe rather than a family/business 4/5 door saloon.

I still don't think the A5 actually looks bad, I just can't get the similarity out of my head so that's all I see each time I look at it and think the bonnet just looks too busy with all the ridges and folds in it. Just my opinion because I know plenty who love the look of it and that's fine too!


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daytonamart said:
Fair point, does it matter that the new A5 looks like the Mondeo? yes, I think it does.
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In fairness, driving an S5 would you really want it confused with a Mondeo? I think the answer would be a resounding no for 99% of buyers.


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Quite, taste and opinion are always a gulf apart ;-)
 
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I really liked the old A5, was seriously tempted to chop in the old A4 for an end of line cabby at 21% 0ff. The new one is probably a better car but the look of it does nothing for me.
 
Don't trust the pictures. In person the a5 is stunning especially in sportback guise. Pictures can make it look busy.

Personally I am very torn. The thing is I love options and would have to give up quite a few to pay for both th extra 3k asking price and the 6.2 vs 3.9 Apr. In top of that the discounts aren't as good....

Even so you do get better seats, heated as standard and some options like virtual cockpit are cheaper. You might also consider having sport spec on an a5 where as the a4 really needs s line imo to look its best.
 
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S5 coupe might be on the cards next time for me. I've got young kids hence the need for a big boot and lots of seats at present.
 
Mondeo comparison is strange to me. Apart from creases on the bonnet and a coupe type roofline at the back I don't see it.

The siloete is very different as the a5 is much more sleek and complex. Up close it is even more different. The a5 is full of detail and has the Audi knack of looking expensive and futurist.

The mondeo is nice but looks like a budget car in the flesh.
 
It took me a while to realise that the photo posted by @Daggerit had been photoshopped. I actually needed to compare photos from the Audi and Ford website to work it out!

Anyway I also realised that (at least from the photos) I think the Mondeo is not bad looking. I also like the new Kia Stinger GT. But I think I prefer the B9 sportback, but not as much as the B8.5 :)
 
I was ready to respond to this last night, thankfully I didn't.

Today I saw an A5 Sportback in the flesh.
That extra crease in the bonnet looks poor. Something they didn't need to change.

However the refreshed interior is superb.

I didn't like the S4 Saloon I saw in our local showroom and my wife liked it even less (and this is going to be her car).
Not yet seen a S5 Sportback so will hold back on that opinion.
It will have to look great though to make it worthwhile changing as, as good as the new interior is, it's not worth an extra £whatever thousand from our current S5 unless it is worthwhile looks wise.

The poorest thing about the S4/S5 is the fact they both now use a Haldex configuration rather than a Torsen one.
 
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CraigI said:
I was ready to respond to this last night, thankfully I didn't.

Today I saw an A5 Sportback in the flesh.
That extra crease in the bonnet looks poor. Something they didn't need to change.

However the refreshed interior is superb.

I didn't like the S4 Saloon I saw in our local showroom and my wife liked it even less (and this is her car).
Not yet seen a S5 Sportback so will hold back on opinion.
It will have to look great though to make it worthwhile changing as, as good as the new interior is, it's not worth an extra £whatever thousand from our current S5 unless it is worthwhile looks wise.

The poorest thing about the S4/S5 is the fact they both now use a Haldex configuration rather than a Torsen one.
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Really want to see one in the flesh now.

Just a quick one though, has it been confirmed that the B9 S4/S5 definitely don't have the Torsen based quattro? Remember someone questioned that it was just the B9 A4/A5 that got the Haldex Ultra, but the B9 S cars got the full fat Torsen?

Never followed it up to see what was the truth?
 
This might provide some insight:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-ne...16-quattro-with-ultra-all-wheel-drive-system/

"The system is currently designed to work with engines producing maximum torque below 370lb ft or so, meaning that RS variants and certain other engines will stick with developments of the current Torsen system."

The S4/5 produce 500nm, which is about 370lb/ft right? Hmmmm!

Don't bother reading the Audi brochure...it states that the new S5 model is still a 3.0 V6 supercharged unit...
 
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Really want to see one in the flesh now.

Just a quick one though, has it been confirmed that the B9 S4/S5 definitely don't have the Torsen based quattro? Remember someone questioned that it was just the B9 A4/A5 that got the Haldex Ultra, but the B9 S cars got the full fat Torsen?

Never followed it up to see what was the truth?
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I believe from what I've read that the haldex-ish version is an Ultra only variant and doesn't apply to the higher torque versions such as the 3.0tdi models and the S4'sx


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On looks alone i really like the 2 door A5 its sort of an angry looking A4 ready to pounce.Audi are very good at making all their models the same but different which considering the amount of actual differences you can add to a similar concept and still making them all attractive is no mean feat.
 
For me this is way too fussy and i ll bet the interior is even worse with buttons and switches everywhere .Id doubt quality comes anywhere near.
 
£43k for a Kia *** !!!!!

Jesus wave goodbye to ££££££'s residual will be horrendous !

It's not a bad looking car but it's no Audi that's for sure & at that price it is sure trying to be.
 
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£43k for a Kia *** !!!!!

Jesus wave goodbye to ££££££'s residual will be horrendous !

It's not a bad looking car but it's no Audi that's for sure & at that price it is sure trying to be.
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Exactly what I was thinking! The GFV will not be anywhere near as high as on the S5 over the same time period...and it will likely be estimated too high to begin with..

It's not a bad looking car by any means, but that front grill is awful. It's right across the range and most have a face that only a mother could love.

And to be clear, I'm still not a fan of the front of the S5 either.
 
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The Kia looks designed for the market in the USA, they are also producing a diesel version for the UK..
 
CraigI said:
The poorest thing about the S4/S5 is the fact they both now use a Haldex configuration rather than a Torsen one.
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When the B9 S4 is spec'ed with the £1200 option 'quattro with Sport differential' you get the Torsen quatrro as opposed to the 'Haldex Ultra' I am reliably informed
 
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I find it amazing that it is not clear from the brochures, pricelists or pages on the website, exactly which models used "quattro with ultra technology".

The trouble with the Stinger GT as that its RWD. I have seen enough videos of BMWs losing control with oversteer to decide that any performance car I drive on the road must be AWD.
 
Dippy said:
I find it amazing that it is not clear from the brochures, pricelists or pages on the website, exactly which models used "quattro with ultra technology".

The trouble with the Stinger GT as that its RWD. I have seen enough videos of BMWs losing control with oversteer to decide that any performance car I drive on the road must be AWD.
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Yea agreed, but perhaps unsurprising given they rarely differentiated between Torsen an Haldex between the models..

There is an AWD option on the Kia though:

"All models get an eight-speed automatic transmission and both rear- and all-wheel drive will be available, the latter a suitably sporty rear-biased system with torque vectoring."

Is that a similar set up to BMWs X-drive?
 
Had a little play at the dealership today:





 
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Had a cheeky test drive at the weekend. I told them I was only interested in a sportback but it's only just in and they only have a showroom model.

Instead I drove a 2 litre tdi sport with various upgrades including 18 inch wheels. TBH it drove just like the a4 apart from being a bit harsher ride and lower down. Didn't look so great in the scuba blue.

The sline sportback in Daytona with 19 inch wheels was stunning though,

Problem is the 6.2 percent pcp vs the 3.9 on the a4. If it weren't for that, the higher balloon payment cancelled out the higher price and you get electric, heated and alcantara seats which cost you s pretty packet on the a4.

In fact it's over 1k in options for those things on an a4 ....
 
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