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I have 15mm front and 20mm rear on my S3 saloon that's the max you can go on standard wheels I would say. Certainly makes the car look better
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I'm not a fan of spacers, but being overtaken by your own spacer equipped wheel will do that. If you do go down this road though, you might want one of these;
http://www.badobsessionmotorsport.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/tyre-stick-out-gauge-2.pdf
http://www.badobsessionmotorsport.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/tyre-stick-out-gauge-2.pdf
paulmc
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Mine will be for sale in the next few days if you are interested? I Bought new wider wheels so my current spacers will be too big
On a sportsback? Short answer, no. Unless you want the wheels to stick ridiculously far out and love the sound of rubbing.
Just to give others an idea of how such setup looks without spacers, the below image is 19x8.5 et45. Fronts are completely flush and the rears needs 5mm to be flush.
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I’ve some brand new Forge spacers I bought for my Golf R that I never fitted (11 and 16mm). I’ve a Sportback on standard 18s. What’s the optimum setup for the SB on 18s? Trying to work out if they’d be suitable for my car or would I be better selling them and going for a different size combo. I plan to eventually lower it on Eibach Pro springs.
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As you lower the car you get some camber though, so what might sit flush on a stock height car, may need an extra 5mm on a car thats 25mm lower
On ours, we have 8.5 x 19 ET 45 all round, rears are spaced an extra 13mm and sit perfect and fronts need another 5-8mm IMO...due to the suspension design, there is slight negative camber now, nothing like my CLS though lol
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Be too wide I think I had 19/ et43 rotors on mine and didn’t need spacers
When you raise the car back up, it sits nice in the arch and obviously ALOT less camber
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IMHO, I think you would need around 10mm spacers (on the rear) to bring the wheel out enough with a 25mm drop
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Just to show how much camber can affect how much spacing you need...
I wonder if the rear arches are different between saloon and hatchback as our Saloon DEFINITELY needed spacing...bring us to ET32 on 8.5x19's with zero rubbing
Now I understand - you got a saloon! We need to compare apples to apples here
The saloon can handle much more aggressive offsets than the sportsback which @gynads is asking about here.Now I understand - you got a saloon! We need to compare apples to apples here
That explains that then! yes sorry, my experience is limited to Saloons im afraid
Some pics
That looks real good. Nice height and Wheels look spot on. I'll try it first without and see how it looks.
Thanks for everyone's input
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Hey, the card looks amazing. I have the same OEM 19' inch wheels and I want to get the same size spacer but I'm worried about that if there is any disadvantages or issues in the long term.
I'm either going for:
1- H&R
2- ECS Tuning: Wheel Spacer Flush Fit Kit - Black Bolts which I'll be probably going for which is (10 mm Front, 17,5 Rear)
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15mm front and 20mm rear on standard 18s and Eibach Pro Kit
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thanks a lot for the info since you have had it any issue with spacer in terms of:
1- vibration
2- performance
3- launch control
4- torque steer
Hi Audi-Sporters,
I'm trying to find the 'best looking' spacers for my facelift Audi A3 E-Tron Sportback over here, in The Netherlands.
I want to lower it this month, using Eibach Pro springs/kit. -30mm front and -35mm rear. So I guess this will be just a little lower than stock S-line height...
After lowering, I want to place spacers on the front- and rear wheels.
I have o.e.m. 18" S-line wheels (8V0601025AM), 18", 7.5J ET51:
I understood that 10mm spacers (10mm on both sides) on the front, would look 'flush'.
Am I correct? (My Dunlop sport maxx rt tyres have big rim protectors)
And what about the rear? I read about 15mm (on both sides), but also about 20mm(on both sides) would look good/flush. What would you guys advice, looking at my stock 7.5J ET51 wheels?
Bought 4 (four!) x H&R 10mm spacers today, second hand, for a very good price (couldn't resist ;-) )
Going to install them on the front and try the other 2, stack on top of each other (so 20mm total) with longer bolts, on one rear side. No, not to drive(!), just to have al look at how 20mm looks at the rear.
- If it looks good, I sell the 2 10mm ones ( and keep the two on the front) and buy 20mm ones.
- If it looks bad/sticks out, I'm going to buy 15mm ones on the rear
The ones I bought are H&R Trak+ DR type spacers, partnummer 2055571
But I see they also sell 2055571A and 2055571B versions - > something to do with the INNER WHEEL BEVEL / OUTER SPACER BEVEL, which is different, like 4.0x45 degrees, 6.5x45 degrees or 7.0x45degrees?!?
What do our A3's need? I don't understand...
http://www.trakplus.com/trakguidelines/
I'm trying to find the 'best looking' spacers for my facelift Audi A3 E-Tron Sportback over here, in The Netherlands.
I want to lower it this month, using Eibach Pro springs/kit. -30mm front and -35mm rear. So I guess this will be just a little lower than stock S-line height...
After lowering, I want to place spacers on the front- and rear wheels.
I have o.e.m. 18" S-line wheels (8V0601025AM), 18", 7.5J ET51:
I understood that 10mm spacers (10mm on both sides) on the front, would look 'flush'.
Am I correct? (My Dunlop sport maxx rt tyres have big rim protectors)
And what about the rear? I read about 15mm (on both sides), but also about 20mm(on both sides) would look good/flush. What would you guys advice, looking at my stock 7.5J ET51 wheels?
Bought 4 (four!) x H&R 10mm spacers today, second hand, for a very good price (couldn't resist ;-) )
Going to install them on the front and try the other 2, stack on top of each other (so 20mm total) with longer bolts, on one rear side. No, not to drive(!), just to have al look at how 20mm looks at the rear.
- If it looks good, I sell the 2 10mm ones ( and keep the two on the front) and buy 20mm ones.
- If it looks bad/sticks out, I'm going to buy 15mm ones on the rear
The ones I bought are H&R Trak+ DR type spacers, partnummer 2055571
But I see they also sell 2055571A and 2055571B versions - > something to do with the INNER WHEEL BEVEL / OUTER SPACER BEVEL, which is different, like 4.0x45 degrees, 6.5x45 degrees or 7.0x45degrees?!?
What do our A3's need? I don't understand...
http://www.trakplus.com/trakguidelines/
Hi Audi-Sporters,
I'm trying to find the 'best looking' spacers for my facelift Audi A3 E-Tron Sportback over here, in The Netherlands.
I want to lower it this month, using Eibach Pro springs/kit. -30mm front and -35mm rear. So I guess this will be just a little lower than stock S-line height...
After lowering, I want to place spacers on the front- and rear wheels.
I have o.e.m. 18" S-line wheels (8V0601025AM), 18", 7.5J ET51:
I understood that 10mm spacers (10mm on both sides) on the front, would look 'flush'.
Am I correct? (My Dunlop sport maxx rt tyres have big rim protectors)
And what about the rear? I read about 15mm (on both sides), but also about 20mm(on both sides) would look good/flush. What would you guys advice, looking at my stock 7.5J ET51 wheels?
Bought 4 (four!) x H&R 10mm spacers today, second hand, for a very good price (couldn't resist ;-) )
Going to install them on the front and try the other 2, stack on top of each other (so 20mm total) with longer bolts, on one rear side. No, not to drive(!), just to have al look at how 20mm looks at the rear.
- If it looks good, I sell the 2 10mm ones ( and keep the two on the front) and buy 20mm ones.
- If it looks bad/sticks out, I'm going to buy 15mm ones on the rear
The ones I bought are H&R Trak+ DR type spacers, partnummer 2055571
But I see they also sell 2055571A and 2055571B versions - > something to do with the INNER WHEEL BEVEL / OUTER SPACER BEVEL, which is different, like 4.0x45 degrees, 6.5x45 degrees or 7.0x45degrees?!?
What do our A3's need? I don't understand...
http://www.trakplus.com/trakguidelines/
Go for 10-12mm front and 15mm rear or 15mm front and 20mm rear.
Here's a link to my Google drive where you can see examples of the different setups:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/156ehj1zcNpDoWKnSbkJox18QceEaVSHe?usp=sharing
@Lehn: Thank you so much for all your examples. Very useful to me.
Looking at your 15mm front - 20mm rear examples, it definitely looks 'flush' on the blue S3, but on the back of the A3 (S3/RS3?), the tire seems to protrude a little bit from the wheel arch...
This can partly be caused by the bigger tyre protector (like my own Dunlops also have), but maybe also a different ET value on those wheels??
I'm not sure what sizes front and rear look 'best' for me, but one thing I do know: Whowww, what a little lowering and adding some spacers do to the looks of our A3's.
Looking at your 15mm front - 20mm rear examples, it definitely looks 'flush' on the blue S3, but on the back of the A3 (S3/RS3?), the tire seems to protrude a little bit from the wheel arch...
This can partly be caused by the bigger tyre protector (like my own Dunlops also have), but maybe also a different ET value on those wheels??
I'm not sure what sizes front and rear look 'best' for me, but one thing I do know: Whowww, what a little lowering and adding some spacers do to the looks of our A3's.
Vibration - No
Performance- No noticeable difference
LC - No issues
Torque Steer - None
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Received my four (second hand) H&R spacers today.
H&R partnumber was 3055571, instead of 2055571, I discovered they are 15mm, instead of 10mm
...
I tried them on the front and back of my A3 E-Tron. Need your opionions ->
Don't mind the ridiculous ride-height on the E-Tron
This is why I want to lower it with the Eibach Pro kit.
On the back:
15mm doesn't look 'flush'. I think it could use another 5mm:
(click to make image larger)
On the front:
15mm look a littttttle too wide. I guess its not the wheel but the wider rim protector on the tyre?:
What do you guys think? What would be the best spacer size for me (front and rear).
Would it also be different, when the car is lowered (due to suspension articulation)?
And what about the bolts?
The ones I received with the H&R spacers look different (they call it tapered?)
Can I use them, on o.e.m. wheels?
I think the original bolts are called 'radius'...
H&R partnumber was 3055571, instead of 2055571, I discovered they are 15mm, instead of 10mm
...I tried them on the front and back of my A3 E-Tron. Need your opionions ->
Don't mind the ridiculous ride-height on the E-Tron
This is why I want to lower it with the Eibach Pro kit.
On the back:
15mm doesn't look 'flush'. I think it could use another 5mm:
(click to make image larger)
On the front:
15mm look a littttttle too wide. I guess its not the wheel but the wider rim protector on the tyre?:
What do you guys think? What would be the best spacer size for me (front and rear).
Would it also be different, when the car is lowered (due to suspension articulation)?
And what about the bolts?
The ones I received with the H&R spacers look different (they call it tapered?)
Can I use them, on o.e.m. wheels?
I think the original bolts are called 'radius'...
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Received my four (second hand) H&R spacers today.
H&R partnumber was 3055571, instead of 2055571, I discovered they are 15mm, instead of 10mm
I tried them on the front and back of my A3 E-Tron. Need your opionions ->
Don't mind the ridiculous ride-height on the E-Tron
This is why I want to lower it with the Eibach Pro kit.
On the back:
15mm doesn't look 'flush'. I think it could use another 5mm:
(click to make image larger)
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On the front:
15mm look a littttttle too wide. I guess its not the wheel but the wider rim protector on the tyre?:
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What do you guys think? What would be the best spacer size for me (front and rear).
Would it also be different, when the car is lowered (due to suspension articulation)?
And what about the bolts?
The ones I received with the H&R spacers look different (they call it tapered?)
Can I use them, on o.e.m. wheels?
I think the original bolts are called 'radius'...
1. Did you move the car a few meters back and forth before measuring? When you lower the car from the jack the wheels will poke a little more because they are not positioned properly.
2. Regarding the bolts: no I would never use bolts with the wrong seat. Get some radius/ball seat from e.g. https://www.tunershop.co.uk/wheels/wheel-accessories/wheel-bolts-nuts.html
I didn't drive it a few meters, but I did release the handbrake and moved it back an forth a few centimers on my driveway. So springs/wheels should be positioned again (a little) ...
I will buy the correct radius bolts, before installing them permanently.
What do you guys think about 15mm on front and 15mm on rear, looking at my pictures?
(otherwise I sell all 4 of them and look for 10 or 12mm front and 20 rear)
I will buy the correct radius bolts, before installing them permanently.
What do you guys think about 15mm on front and 15mm on rear, looking at my pictures?
(otherwise I sell all 4 of them and look for 10 or 12mm front and 20 rear)
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Hi Guys
This thread has been incredibly useful for me because we dont have alot of guys with different spacer configs here in South Africa.
I went with the ECS flush kit (10mm and 17.6mm) on stock OEM 18s. No drop yet and no mag ride.
Really chuffed with the look. Car just looks more aggressive now. Only concerned about bearing load so wanted to know if anyone has experienced pre mature bearing failure after fitting spacers? To give myself piece of mind I'm considering removing the 17.6mm on rear and going 11mm (based on availability here ).
Anyone with pics of standard 18s with 10mm all round?
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This thread has been incredibly useful for me because we dont have alot of guys with different spacer configs here in South Africa.
I went with the ECS flush kit (10mm and 17.6mm) on stock OEM 18s. No drop yet and no mag ride.
Really chuffed with the look. Car just looks more aggressive now. Only concerned about bearing load so wanted to know if anyone has experienced pre mature bearing failure after fitting spacers? To give myself piece of mind I'm considering removing the 17.6mm on rear and going 11mm (based on availability here ).
Anyone with pics of standard 18s with 10mm all round?
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Hi Guys
This thread has been incredibly useful for me because we dont have alot of guys with different spacer configs here in South Africa.
I went with the ECS flush kit (10mm and 17.6mm) on stock OEM 18s. No drop yet and no mag ride.
Really chuffed with the look. Car just looks more aggressive now. Only concerned about bearing load so wanted to know if anyone has experienced pre mature bearing failure after fitting spacers? To give myself piece of mind I'm considering removing the 17.6mm on rear and going 11mm (based on availability here ).
Anyone with pics of standard 18s with 10mm all round?
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As a mechanical engineer I can vouch for below statement
“Wheel Spacers will cause my wheel bearings to failure prematurely
Wheel spacers will not cause your wheel bearings to fail prematurely. Again, as long as the application is correct for your specific vehicle, you should have no problems. Make sure that the hub bore on your vehicle matches the hub bore on the spacer and the new extended hub bore on the wheel spacer matches the hub bore on your wheel.”
https://iscsuspension-na.com/wheel-spacers-facts-myths-isc-hub-centric-spacers-best/
(No this is not a scientific article but I personally agree with the statements)
Just remember that regarding stress on the bearing a spacer is no different than adding a wheel with a higher offset (lower ET number). And the bearings are made to handle the stress from potholes and uneven surfaces and adding a few millimetres to the track width is nothing compared to this.
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Was a good read but obviously biased And yes not a shred of scientific information in there.
On the contrary, theres lots of vids showing the physics behind spacers and why they will add strain. Im sure they are designed for occasional inconsistencies in the road surface but I'm not confident that the bearings were designed to be under abnormal strain all the time. I still have them but would like to hear from anyone who may have had bearing failure under 75k kms with spacers fitted. And would also like to drop from 17.5 to the 11mm option to minimize the strain but would like to see what it looks like.
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And yes not a shred of scientific information in there.On the contrary, theres lots of vids showing the physics behind spacers and why they will add strain. Im sure they are designed for occasional inconsistencies in the road surface but I'm not confident that the bearings were designed to be under abnormal strain all the time. I still have them but would like to hear from anyone who may have had bearing failure under 75k kms with spacers fitted. And would also like to drop from 17.5 to the 11mm option to minimize the strain but would like to see what it looks like.
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@SPathS3 your 'Flush kit' looks very good! I guess 17mm is perfect on the rear (in my pictures above, you can see 15mm isn't really flush)
I don't know if there is a difference between the your Saloon and my Sportback, to make it look 'flush' on the front and rear?
(I'm also still looking for the best spacers, like you can see and read in my posting above)
And what about handling?
So you notice any differences?
Cornering? More precise? Etc
I don't know if there is a difference between the your Saloon and my Sportback, to make it look 'flush' on the front and rear?
(I'm also still looking for the best spacers, like you can see and read in my posting above)
And what about handling?
So you notice any differences?
Cornering? More precise? Etc
I think the 17.6mm for the rear is pretty much flush. The front could probably go to 12 but I'm happy with the look at 10mm....it accentuates the rear more. Dont think there's any difference between hatch and sedan with regard to offset/spacing to arch.
Havent driven enough to comment about the handling. Fitted them on thursday and been away since Friday.
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Havent driven enough to comment about the handling. Fitted them on thursday and been away since Friday.
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So the ECS 'flush kit' for the Saloon, front 12, rear 17,6, wouldn't be flush on my Sportback? (with same wheels)
I think it would but the oem wheel offset is different, that’s just what I want to point out
It’s fairly normal to see people use 10-15mm spacers in front and 15-20mm in rear to get a flush look with oem wheels on the sportback.
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Hi, this threads been very insightful.
Would like to ask for guidance on Spacer fitment for my 8VS? Wheels are currently 19” on 225/35/19 tyres (older pics attached) and the car has Mag Ride as well. I was initially thinking 12mm Front Axle and 20mm rear Axle but now thinking 20mm rear may be a bit too much?
Any advice is appreciate, thanks
Would like to ask for guidance on Spacer fitment for my 8VS? Wheels are currently 19” on 225/35/19 tyres (older pics attached) and the car has Mag Ride as well. I was initially thinking 12mm Front Axle and 20mm rear Axle but now thinking 20mm rear may be a bit too much?
Any advice is appreciate, thanks
