[How To] HBA Retrofit on 8V/MQB Platform

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Thought I'd stick up a guide for this seeing as theres no info whatsoever on the net.

This will only work on cars that have an 'HIGH' CAN Gateway. If you don't have one you must install that also..

First you'll need to source yourself a rear view mirror that supports HBA. German eBay is best for this! I went for a frameless facelift A3 mirror;

S l500 2 S l500

Next you'll need a simple wiring loom. You can probably make one up yourself, its simply a pair of twisted CAN cables (CAN HIGH & CAN LOW). I ordered this to keep it easy.

Next you'll need to remove your old rear view mirror. Turn anti clockwise and it'll come off its mount. Unplug the cable going into the mirror.

Now you need to add two wires to the plug that goes into the mirror. Its a black 8 pin connector.

PIN 3 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH *IF* you already have a dimming rear view mirror, this pin will be occupied. Simply replace the pin with the CAN HIGH wire. This pin is for the reverse signal, it will now be taken from the CAN cabling instead.

PIN 8 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW


Now run the cables from your headliner to the drivers side A pillar, down the A pillar and into the drivers side footwell area. Remove the piece of trim under steering wheel. at the side of the dashboard, unplug light switch & footwell lights.

Look for the CAN GATEWAY. You'll need to stick your head right under there as its a nightmare to get to. It will have a RED plug going into it. Unplug the cables, you'll find a 20 pin connector. Wire up as follows - (Both of my pins were pre occupied so I had to splice, your experience may vary.)

PIN 7 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW
PIN 17 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH

Now tidy away the cables, put everything back together, plug the mirror in and refit.

Code as follows;

19: CAN Gateway - Installation List - Enable address 20: High Beam Assist

09: Central Electronics - Coding, long coding helper - Byte 2 - Change to 1D (Take note of your original coding just incase...)
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent Werkseinstellung" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Fernlichtassistent Reset" - Change to NOT ACTIVE (this will 'remember' your HBA setting on the DIS upon cycling the ignition.. Handy...)

20: High Beam Assist - Coding, long coding helper - byte 0 - Change to 01 for HALOGENS, 04 for LED, and 02 for XENON

All done! Test and report back

Thanks to @Rob2k68 for providing me with his autoscan so I could compare coding :)
 
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Excellent work and great write up !! Don't suppose you have a pt number for the mirror handy at all ?

Here's a useful VCDS tweak to change the speeds at which HBA becomes active, think I dropped mine to 32/24 :-


Module A5
Activation speed for high beam assistant (default 58kph)
Speed threshold for high beam recommendation off (default 28kph)
 
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I have high beam camera and acc but in vagcom module A5 is not listed... you guys know why?
 
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James Cole said:
I have high beam camera and acc but in vagcom module A5 is not listed... you guys know why?
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It may not show in the first page of modules, try looking in the other tabs.
 
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Nope... it does not connect... any way to look for it?
 
Part number I used was 81A857511C :)
 
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Nope... no lane assist only front facing camera and acc
 
James Cole said:
Nope... no lane assist only front facing camera and acc
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In that case you won't an A5 module. A5 module is only for cars with lane assist/traffic sign recognition installed.

Go into module 20: High Beam Assist instead.
 
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Aoon_M said:
Thought I'd stick up a guide for this seeing as theres no info whatsoever on the net.

This will only work on cars that have an 'HIGH' CAN Gateway. If you don't have one you must install that also..

First you'll need to source yourself a rear view mirror that supports HBA. German eBay is best for this! I went for a frameless facelift A3 mirror;

View attachment 111530 View attachment 111531

Next you'll need a simple wiring loom. You can probably make one up yourself, its simply a pair of twisted CAN cables (CAN HIGH & CAN LOW). I ordered this to keep it easy.

Next you'll need to remove your old rear view mirror. Turn anti clockwise and it'll come off its mount. Unplug the cable going into the mirror.

Now you need to add two wires to the plug that goes into the mirror. Its a black 8 pin connector.

PIN 3 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH *IF* you already have a dimming rear view mirror, this pin will be occupied. Simply replace the pin with the CAN HIGH wire. This pin is for the reverse signal, it will now be taken from the CAN cabling instead.

PIN 8 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW


Now run the cables from your headliner to the drivers side A pillar, down the A pillar and into the drivers side footwell area. Remove the piece of trim under steering wheel. at the side of the dashboard, unplug light switch & footwell lights.

Look for the CAN GATEWAY. You'll need to stick your head right under there as its a nightmare to get to. It will have a RED plug going into it. Unplug the cables, you'll find a 20 pin connector. Wire up as follows - (Both of my pins were pre occupied so I had to splice, your experience may vary.)

PIN 7 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW
PIN 17 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH

Now tidy away the cables, put everything back together, plug the mirror in and refit.

Code as follows;

19: CAN Gateway - Installation List - Enable address 20: High Beam Assist

09: Central Electronics - Coding, long coding helper - Byte 2 - Change to 1D (Take note of your original coding just incase...)
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent Werkseinstellung" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Fernlichtassistent Reset" - Change to NOT ACTIVE (this will 'remember' your HBA setting on the DIS upon cycling the ignition.. Handy...)

20: High Beam Assist - Coding, long coding helper - byte 0 - Change to 01 for HALOGENS, 04 for LED, and 02 for XENON

All done! Test and report back

Thanks to @Rob2k68 for providing me with his autoscan so I could compare coding :)
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LoL ironically after changing to a 2016MY dimming mirror which I thought would be plug and play (same features and PIN numbers) my HBA no longer works and sure enough I get this error in VCDS, I've checked my coding and changed my beam type to 04 for LED the rest was populated as you'd expect. If I clear the code it instantly reappears- any ideas ??

IMG 1902
 
Can you upload an auto scan
 
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Can you upload an auto scan
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Yes will do mate - give me two mins I'll just copy and pasted it in here - I think it maybe because workshop and helped codes are all zero ??? Give me a sec .... and BIG thanks - do t really want to put the old mirror back on.
 
Does the HBA need calibrated, saw this type of error before when retrofitting OEM Xenons into my Golf.
 
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Can you upload an auto scan
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Friday,09,December,2016,12:36:49:62442
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2 (x64)
Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx License Plate:
Mileage: xxxxxkm-xxxxxmi Repair Order:


Chassis Type: 8V (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 20 22 42 44 47 52 55 5F 6C
A9 BB BC


01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CJXC) Labels: 06K-907-425-V1.clb
Part No SW: 8V0 906 259 A HW: 06K 907 425 B
Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI H13 0004
Revision: --H13---
Coding: 0A1D00322426010B2004
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259A 001006
ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259E.rod
VCID: 3E754E93A1845FB2FB-806A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 0D9 REV 012 L HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
Component: DQ250-6A MQB H53 4517
Revision: 05853104 Serial number: TFK01501131776
Coding: 0014
Shop #: WSC 04742 780 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
VCID: 79FF9D8FF82AB88A8E-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 F HW: 3Q0 907 379 F
Component: ESC H42 0609
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 60245000001299
Coding: 32F193A254222A6C0377070941C6694CC92A54C0E08296F7024100F88208
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 034027
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_034_VW48.rod
VCID: 3D77499FAC8244AAE2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87) Labels: 8V0-820-043.clb
Part No SW: 8V0 820 043 D HW: 8V0 820 043 D
Component: AC Automat H13 0060
Revision: 20027000 Serial number: 00000000544532
Coding: 03100014000000011000000000001100
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X 008020
ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X.rod
VCID: 33636FA79AC682DA04-8066

Relative humidity sensor in fresh air intake duct:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658 HW: 4H0 907 658
Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor H03 0003
Serial number: 69294D87000000000001

1 Fault Found:
1048836 - Blower Output Reduction due to Energy Management
B10CE 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 227
Mileage: 37591 km
Date: 2016.11.22
Time: 13:02:08

Voltage terminal 30: 11.0 V
Blower reduction: No switch-off: no reduction


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ HW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ
Component: BCM MQBAB H H18 0137
Serial number: 01011502304460
Coding: 07141D46C24106FD03844004B31C07A80000000000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
VCID: 0009F06B9BF0E942C9-8054

Control Unit For Wiper Motor:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V2 955 119 A HW: 8V2 955 119 Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
Component: WWS370 150103 041 0580
Serial number: 150110194018
Coding: 0A47F7

Rain Light Recognition Sensor:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B HW: 8U0 955 559 B Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
Component: G397_RLFS H06 0002
Serial number: 23662210
Coding: 00006C

Light switch:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 AA HW: 8V0 941 531 AA
Component: E1 - LDS MQB H05 0032
Serial number: 08 10 2014 00000984

Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8V0 951 177 HW: 5Q0 951 172
Component: Sensor, DWA 005 0315
Serial number: 000000000ZY1500502KW

Alarm horn:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 HW: 5Q0 951 605
Component: Sirene, DWA 004 0311
Serial number: 00000000000061448393

Sun Roof:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591 A HW: 8V3 959 591 A
Component: J245 PS73.404 H03 0004
Serial number: 0000FST0003TYB500000
Coding: 901E00

1 Fault Found:
262912 - Sensor for Anti-Theft Alarm System
B1330 F5 [008] - Alert Emergency Activation Stage 1
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 227
Mileage: 37591 km
Date: 2016.11.22
Time: 13:05:49


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels: 5Q0-919-294.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 J HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H03 0051
Revision: -------- Serial number: 39311502003631
Coding: 0030151011
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_VW37.rod
VCID: 428D3A63D57C3B529F-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250) Labels: 8V0-907-376.clb
Part No SW: 8V0 907 376 C HW: 8V0 907 376 C
Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H08 0066
Serial number: 030115002
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudiMagneRide 002003
ROD: EV_AudiMagneRide_002_AU37.rod
VCID: 418F356FD07A204A86-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 N HW: 5Q0 959 655 N
Component: AirbagVW20 011 0361
Serial number: 003M2R09XPKC
Coding: 98CCC0000C0000005C5400CA00C800000065
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
VCID: 4B931747E236FA1A6C-801E

Side Sensor Driver Front:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 912 14
Component: SideSensor_Df 001 0887
Serial number: 35767000000A7DF8C21A
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Passenger Front:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 912 14
Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887
Serial number: 3586700000007DF8C211
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Driver Rear:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 601 15
Component: SideSensor_Dr 001 6149
Serial number: 3516502B719121A2633Z
Coding: 2D2D2D

Side Sensor Passenger Rear:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 601 15
Component: SideSensor_Pr 001 6149
Serial number: 3526502C91901DA20194
Coding: 2D2D2D

Front Sensor Driver:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 212 14
Component: FrontSensor_D 001 6149
Serial number: 3556502A51811B92B335
Coding: 2D2D2D

Pedestrian Protection Driver:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 601 15
Component: PedP_Sensor_D 001 6149
Serial number: 2286502C5196FF63222H
Coding: 2D2D2D

Pedestrian Protection Passenger:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 601 15
Component: PedP_Sensor_P 001 6149
Serial number: 2296502C1196FF63A24O
Coding: 2D2D2D

Pedestrian Protection Center:
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 400 601 15
Component: PedP_Sensor_C 001 6149
Serial number: 2306502AD1901DA5A2AG
Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 BP HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
Component: Lenks. Modul 002 0110
Revision: -------- Serial number: 22011508490170
Coding: A418
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
VCID: 091FED4FA8CAA80A9E-805C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
Part No SW: 8V0 920 971 J HW: 8V0 920 971 J
Component: KOMBI H02 4292
Coding: 27AD080A3B8026000101EA001000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_AU37.rod
VCID: 44813C7BCF683562AD-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AC HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
Component: GW MQB High 128 1204
Revision: -------- Serial number: 0002955161
Coding: 030100043F085A005B0002689C0B00000001010000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 011020
ROD: EV_GatewLear_011.rod
VCID: 72EDAAA3A55CCBD2CF-8026

Alternator:

Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 951 528 C HW: 8U0 951 528 C
Component: E221 - MFL H02 0014
Serial number: 02 09 2015 E0008047

Battery Monitoring Control Module:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 H HW: 5Q0 915 181 H
Component: J367-BDMConti H02 1011
Serial number: 74185703001501080729

1 Fault Found:
8531970 - Quiescent Current
U1406 00 [008] - Too High
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 21
Reset counter: 5
Mileage: 37233 km
Date: 2016.11.16
Time: 19:26:47

Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 11.9 V
Terminal 15: OFF


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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844) Labels: 8S0-857-511.clb
Part No SW: 8S0 857 511 C HW: 8S0 857 511 C
Component: FLA H09 0003
Revision: AA001001
Coding: 0400000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU33X 001017
ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU33X_VW37.rod
VCID: 397F5D8FB8AA788ACE-806C

1 Fault Found:
15466752 - Control module not coded
U1013 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 223
Mileage: 38921 km
Date: 2016.12.09
Time: 12:30:43


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Address 22: AWD (J492) Labels: 0CQ-907-554.clb
Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 H HW: 0CQ 525 130
Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7083
Serial number: HA1-00005.11.15
Coding: 0001
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 004013
ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_004.rod
VCID: 4A9D1243ED4CE31257-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 D HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
Component: TSG FS 020 0028
Serial number: 070115BA604902
Coding: 005D8E205C01040000001002
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 428D3A63D57C3B529F-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 H HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 505 5061
Coding: 8103
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_VW31.rod
VCID: 377B5BB78EBE6EFA38-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8V0 035 465 C HW: 8V0 035 465
Component: MIBAMP1ALPINE H11 0410
Serial number: AUZ8ZAEN9010P6Y
Coding: 01030300AAAA2AAA01
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst16C1ALPI 004024
ROD: EV_AMPMst16C1ALPI_004_AU37.rod
VCID: 3879588B83A0618231-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 D HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
Component: TSG BFS 020 0028
Serial number: 100115BA91997A
Coding: 005D86205E01040000001002
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 418F356FD07A204A86-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745) Labels: 7P6-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 C HW: 7P6 907 357 B
Component: AFS-ECU H01 0091
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 01A600002B230200
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB 001001
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB_AU37.rod
VCID: 3F8B3397A68E56BAF0-806A

Led Headlamp Powermodule Left:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 472 J HW: 7PP 941 472 J Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LED LeiMo li. H07 7560
Coding: E00100

Led Headlamp Powermodule Right:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 472 J HW: 7PP 941 472 J Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LED LeiMo re. H07 7560
Coding: E00100

Left Headlamp Power Output Stage:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 329 M HW: 7PP 941 329 M Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo links H01 7050
Coding: E00100

Right Headlamp Power Output Stage:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 329 M HW: 7PP 941 329 M Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo rechts H01 7050
Coding: E00100

1 Fault Found:
5544753 - LED Headlamp Power Output Stage; Right
B149B 31 [008] - No Signal
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 37921 km
Date: 2016.11.25
Time: 10:51:50


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 8V0-035-MIB-HGH1.clb
Part No SW: 8V0 035 036 C HW: 8V0 035 036 B
Component: MU-H-LND-EU H44 0356
Serial number: A300A0F7513429
Coding: 017303010000000021111102000A00102F00022701000100DE
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3HBAS 001040
ROD: EV_MUHig6C3HBAS_AU37.rod
VCID: 326D6AA365DC8BD20F-8066

Data medium:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 TB HW: -----------
Component: ECE 2016/2017 --- 0153
Serial number: --------------------

Display unit 1 for multimedia system:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 604 C HW: 8V0 919 604 C
Component: DU High H49 0014
Serial number: AUZ8Z9EY202DWH

Multimedia Operating Unit:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 K HW: 8V0 919 614 K
Component: ControlUnit_H H81 0816
Serial number: C1000025101400040493

Compact Disc Database:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG HW: -----------
Component: Gracenote --- 1010
Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772) Labels: 5Q0-907-441.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 441 A HW: 5Q0 907 441 A
Component: MQB RVC Mid H07 0140
Coding: 027300010201000300
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_2CamSysRearPASE 006016
ROD: EV_CamSysRearPANAAU914.rod
VCID: 306960AB6BD0B9C279-8064

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869) Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
Part No SW: 8V0 907 159 HW: 4H0 907 159 A
Component: SAS-GEN 2 H06 0012
Serial number: 141212201192
ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_VW26.rod
VCID: 7DF7899FEC0284AAA2-8028

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address BB: Door Rear Drv (J388) Labels: None
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 595 D HW: 5Q0 959 595 B
Component: TSG HFS 020 0028
Serial number: 130115BAC1002A
Coding: 004D86204001040000001002
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearDriveMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCURearDriveMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 44813C7BCF683562AD-8010

No fault code found.

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Address BC: Door Rear Pass (J389) Labels: None
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 595 D HW: 5Q0 959 595 B
Component: TSG HBFS 020 0028
Serial number: 130115BAC1121A
Coding: 004D86204001040000001002
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearPasseMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCURearPasseMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 44813C7BCF683562AD-8010

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:13)--------------------------
 
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I've just coded bytes 0-2 and there's now no fault code so here's hoping .....

IMG 1914


Byte 3 is a strange one ....

IMG 1919
 
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Do you pictured how you install wiring and rear view mirror?
 
@Rob2k68

You need to code the rest of the module, the only codings I have are below

Change coding to

04018864727264565625393E01 - Pre facelift mirror I think

0404000700000000000001 - 8W mirror

I don't think your is either!
 
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Aoon_M said:
@Rob2k68

You need to code the rest of the module, the only codings I have are below

Change coding to

04018864727264565625393E01 - Pre facelift mirror I think

0404000700000000000001 - 8W mirror

I don't think your is either!
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Thanks mate :friends:

Think I've kind of sussed it now, tried to copy and paste my long code from the original number to this one but too many digits. On the long code helper only bytes 0-3 had a drop down menu so all the others are zero. Might try byte 3 as an R8 as it's not set currently and it's certainly of a VW transporter.

I've put my hand over the camera and the front and high beam came on so getting a lot closer ;o)

Although a genuine OEM fit to MY16 cars the part prefix is 8S0 - any idea what model it came from ?
 
8S0 is a TT part number,


However I have seen this mirror first hand fitted to 65 plate onwards Audi RS3's so it is a late 2015 mirror.

Just checked the part number for my dimming, RS3 2016 mirror - 8S0857511A

The frameless thing is absolutely nothing special. It is very hard to tell the difference between the two!!
 
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Also, if you go into the adaptations there are loads of them! I changed activation and de activation speeds to 0kmh, and I disabled ALL 'suppressions' ;)
 
Aoon_M said:
8S0 is a TT part number,


However I have seen this mirror first hand fitted to 65 plate onwards Audi RS3's so it is a late 2015 mirror.

Just checked the part number for my dimming, RS3 2016 mirror - 8S0857511A

The frameless thing is absolutely nothing special. It is very hard to tell the difference between the two!!
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Think my old mirror ran til May 15 and was then replaced by the one I've just fitted.

From my first pic in post #11 part number is 8S0 857 511C so very close to your RS3 part.

Edit : Do you have the long code handy for that one at all ?
 
@Rob2k68 the non HBA variant isn't a module as it doesn't have a link to CAN so doesn't have any coding whatsoever :(

I could not find a single piece of coding for my frameless mirror either, all bytes did not have any drop down menus or referencs! I just enabled all the bits that would enable - works fine :D
 
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Aoon_M said:
@Rob2k68 the non HBA variant isn't a module as it doesn't have a link to CAN so doesn't have any coding whatsoever :(

I could not find a single piece of coding for my frameless mirror either, all bytes did not have any drop down menus or referencs! I just enabled all the bits that would enable - works fine :D
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That's good news - thanks ;o)

I've enabled what I can - type of dipped lamp, type of main lamp and LHD or RHD and the module not codes error has gone and main beam came on when I covered the camera so I guess that's it - woohoo !!!

Thanks for your help! I'll refit the upper trim.
 
Hi, I bought 81A857511C with HBA one, but I don't want to use the HBA at the moment., I just replaced mirror, dimming rear view function can't use.
Do you know why it don't work?

Do I need change the pin? My original one is 6 Pins, 81A857511C has 7 pins.
 
Yes the dimming signal on the new mirror comes from canbus, so you need to run can high/can low wiring.

Aoon
 
Aoon_M said:
Yes the dimming signal on the new mirror comes from canbus, so you need to run can high/can low wiring.

Aoon
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Hi, Aoon.

Thanks for your reply.

So I also need to re-coding it, right?

My CAN Gateway part no. is 5Q907530J / GW MQB High, Is it support for HBA function?
 
Aoon_M said:
Yes the dimming signal on the new mirror comes from canbus, so you need to run can high/can low wiring.

Aoon
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Hi,Aoon

I linked the wiring to CAN Gateway p7 & p17, but the dimming rear view function also can't used.
 
I have been told in the US the HBA feature isn’t allowed to be activated by Audi.

How can I find out if my car has everything for HBA and just needs the coding to activate it? I have a 2016 A3 e-tron Prestige with Sport package. I have come to understand it’s kind of like the High and Tech Package overseas.
 
Aoon_M said:
Thought I'd stick up a guide for this seeing as theres no info whatsoever on the net.

This will only work on cars that have an 'HIGH' CAN Gateway. If you don't have one you must install that also..

First you'll need to source yourself a rear view mirror that supports HBA. German eBay is best for this! I went for a frameless facelift A3 mirror;

View attachment 111530 View attachment 111531

Next you'll need a simple wiring loom. You can probably make one up yourself, its simply a pair of twisted CAN cables (CAN HIGH & CAN LOW). I ordered this to keep it easy.

Next you'll need to remove your old rear view mirror. Turn anti clockwise and it'll come off its mount. Unplug the cable going into the mirror.

Now you need to add two wires to the plug that goes into the mirror. Its a black 8 pin connector.

PIN 3 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH *IF* you already have a dimming rear view mirror, this pin will be occupied. Simply replace the pin with the CAN HIGH wire. This pin is for the reverse signal, it will now be taken from the CAN cabling instead.

PIN 8 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW


Now run the cables from your headliner to the drivers side A pillar, down the A pillar and into the drivers side footwell area. Remove the piece of trim under steering wheel. at the side of the dashboard, unplug light switch & footwell lights.

Look for the CAN GATEWAY. You'll need to stick your head right under there as its a nightmare to get to. It will have a RED plug going into it. Unplug the cables, you'll find a 20 pin connector. Wire up as follows - (Both of my pins were pre occupied so I had to splice, your experience may vary.)

PIN 7 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW
PIN 17 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH

Now tidy away the cables, put everything back together, plug the mirror in and refit.

Code as follows;

19: CAN Gateway - Installation List - Enable address 20: High Beam Assist

09: Central Electronics - Coding, long coding helper - Byte 2 - Change to 1D (Take note of your original coding just incase...)
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent Werkseinstellung" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Fernlichtassistent Reset" - Change to NOT ACTIVE (this will 'remember' your HBA setting on the DIS upon cycling the ignition.. Handy...)

20: High Beam Assist - Coding, long coding helper - byte 0 - Change to 01 for HALOGENS, 04 for LED, and 02 for XENON

All done! Test and report back

Hi there i have a Audi A3 8v SE have retrofitted led headlights also changed the can gateway to high ran wires to the can gateway now come to the interior mirror there is only one connector (3 wires) which is connected to the rain sensor and there isn’t a 8 pin black plug any help would be great as left with 2 wires no where to plug in on the interior mirror thanks
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Aoon_M said:
Thought I'd stick up a guide for this seeing as theres no info whatsoever on the net.

This will only work on cars that have an 'HIGH' CAN Gateway. If you don't have one you must install that also..

First you'll need to source yourself a rear view mirror that supports HBA. German eBay is best for this! I went for a frameless facelift A3 mirror;

View attachment 111530 View attachment 111531

Next you'll need a simple wiring loom. You can probably make one up yourself, its simply a pair of twisted CAN cables (CAN HIGH & CAN LOW). I ordered this to keep it easy.

Next you'll need to remove your old rear view mirror. Turn anti clockwise and it'll come off its mount. Unplug the cable going into the mirror.

Now you need to add two wires to the plug that goes into the mirror. Its a black 8 pin connector.

PIN 3 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH *IF* you already have a dimming rear view mirror, this pin will be occupied. Simply replace the pin with the CAN HIGH wire. This pin is for the reverse signal, it will now be taken from the CAN cabling instead.

PIN 8 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW


Now run the cables from your headliner to the drivers side A pillar, down the A pillar and into the drivers side footwell area. Remove the piece of trim under steering wheel. at the side of the dashboard, unplug light switch & footwell lights.

Look for the CAN GATEWAY. You'll need to stick your head right under there as its a nightmare to get to. It will have a RED plug going into it. Unplug the cables, you'll find a 20 pin connector. Wire up as follows - (Both of my pins were pre occupied so I had to splice, your experience may vary.)

PIN 7 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW
PIN 17 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH

Now tidy away the cables, put everything back together, plug the mirror in and refit.

Code as follows;

19: CAN Gateway - Installation List - Enable address 20: High Beam Assist

09: Central Electronics - Coding, long coding helper - Byte 2 - Change to 1D (Take note of your original coding just incase...)
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent Werkseinstellung" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Fernlichtassistent Reset" - Change to NOT ACTIVE (this will 'remember' your HBA setting on the DIS upon cycling the ignition.. Handy...)

20: High Beam Assist - Coding, long coding helper - byte 0 - Change to 01 for HALOGENS, 04 for LED, and 02 for XENON

All done! Test and report back

Hi my vehicle hasn’t got a 8 pin plug for the interior mirror to plug in to what do i have to do in regards to this thanks
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Aoon_M said:
Thought I'd stick up a guide for this seeing as theres no info whatsoever on the net.

This will only work on cars that have an 'HIGH' CAN Gateway. If you don't have one you must install that also..

First you'll need to source yourself a rear view mirror that supports HBA. German eBay is best for this! I went for a frameless facelift A3 mirror;

View attachment 111530 View attachment 111531

Next you'll need a simple wiring loom. You can probably make one up yourself, its simply a pair of twisted CAN cables (CAN HIGH & CAN LOW). I ordered this to keep it easy.

Next you'll need to remove your old rear view mirror. Turn anti clockwise and it'll come off its mount. Unplug the cable going into the mirror.

Now you need to add two wires to the plug that goes into the mirror. Its a black 8 pin connector.

PIN 3 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH *IF* you already have a dimming rear view mirror, this pin will be occupied. Simply replace the pin with the CAN HIGH wire. This pin is for the reverse signal, it will now be taken from the CAN cabling instead.

PIN 8 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW


Now run the cables from your headliner to the drivers side A pillar, down the A pillar and into the drivers side footwell area. Remove the piece of trim under steering wheel. at the side of the dashboard, unplug light switch & footwell lights.

Look for the CAN GATEWAY. You'll need to stick your head right under there as its a nightmare to get to. It will have a RED plug going into it. Unplug the cables, you'll find a 20 pin connector. Wire up as follows - (Both of my pins were pre occupied so I had to splice, your experience may vary.)

PIN 7 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW
PIN 17 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH

Now tidy away the cables, put everything back together, plug the mirror in and refit.

Code as follows;

19: CAN Gateway - Installation List - Enable address 20: High Beam Assist

09: Central Electronics - Coding, long coding helper - Byte 2 - Change to 1D (Take note of your original coding just incase...)
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent Werkseinstellung" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Fernlichtassistent Reset" - Change to NOT ACTIVE (this will 'remember' your HBA setting on the DIS upon cycling the ignition.. Handy...)

20: High Beam Assist - Coding, long coding helper - byte 0 - Change to 01 for HALOGENS, 04 for LED, and 02 for XENON

All done! Test and report back

Hey there tried these parts also coded but error finding the module can you help regarding this as vcds bringing error connecting to the camera
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Aoon_M said:
Thought I'd stick up a guide for this seeing as theres no info whatsoever on the net.

This will only work on cars that have an 'HIGH' CAN Gateway. If you don't have one you must install that also..

First you'll need to source yourself a rear view mirror that supports HBA. German eBay is best for this! I went for a frameless facelift A3 mirror;

View attachment 111530 View attachment 111531

Next you'll need a simple wiring loom. You can probably make one up yourself, its simply a pair of twisted CAN cables (CAN HIGH & CAN LOW). I ordered this to keep it easy.

Next you'll need to remove your old rear view mirror. Turn anti clockwise and it'll come off its mount. Unplug the cable going into the mirror.

Now you need to add two wires to the plug that goes into the mirror. Its a black 8 pin connector.

PIN 3 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH *IF* you already have a dimming rear view mirror, this pin will be occupied. Simply replace the pin with the CAN HIGH wire. This pin is for the reverse signal, it will now be taken from the CAN cabling instead.

PIN 8 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW


Now run the cables from your headliner to the drivers side A pillar, down the A pillar and into the drivers side footwell area. Remove the piece of trim under steering wheel. at the side of the dashboard, unplug light switch & footwell lights.

Look for the CAN GATEWAY. You'll need to stick your head right under there as its a nightmare to get to. It will have a RED plug going into it. Unplug the cables, you'll find a 20 pin connector. Wire up as follows - (Both of my pins were pre occupied so I had to splice, your experience may vary.)

PIN 7 on the plug = orange / brown cable = CAN LOW
PIN 17 on the plug = orange / black wire = CAN HIGH

Now tidy away the cables, put everything back together, plug the mirror in and refit.

Code as follows;

19: CAN Gateway - Installation List - Enable address 20: High Beam Assist

09: Central Electronics - Coding, long coding helper - Byte 2 - Change to 1D (Take note of your original coding just incase...)
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent Werkseinstellung" - Change to PRESENT
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Fernlichtassistent Reset" - Change to NOT ACTIVE (this will 'remember' your HBA setting on the DIS upon cycling the ignition.. Handy...)

20: High Beam Assist - Coding, long coding helper - byte 0 - Change to 01 for HALOGENS, 04 for LED, and 02 for XENON

All done! Test and report back

Thanks to @Rob2k68 for providing me with his autoscan so I could compare coding :)
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Hi tried all parts listed but can’t connect to the module any ideas why also the dimming function is not working on the mirror that listed above but does on the facelift frameless mirror need help regarding this thanks
 
Does anyone have the required VCDS coding to make this retrofit on a facelift car ?

Or alternatively able to post or share auto scan - HBA must be through camera mounted on mirror and not triangular lane assist camera.

Thanks in advance.


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Rob2k68 said:
Does anyone have the required VCDS coding to make this retrofit on a facelift car ?

Or alternatively able to post or share auto scan - HBA must be through camera mounted on mirror and not triangular lane assist camera.

Thanks in advance.


Hey there look right at the top of this page coding is the same as I have a facelift 2017 a3 and coding works and bring up menu on mmi as well.
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My facelift (R) coding is slightly different, once added to CAN gateway installation list and module 20 has been configured to LED lighting in my case I had to change these adaptations :-


Extended light control - change to "AFS, FLA, high beam via AFS"
(ErweitereLichtsteuerung–ändernauf“AFS,FLA,FernlichtueberAFS“)

Menu control High beam assistant to "present"
(MenuesteuerungFernlichtassistentauf “vorhanden“)

Reset with ignition cycle was already off :-


High beam assistant Reset to "not active"
(FernlichtassistentResetauf“not aktiv“)
 
Rob2k68 said:
My facelift (R) coding is slightly different, once added to CAN gateway installation list and module 20 has been configured to LED lighting in my case I had to change these adaptations :-


Extended light control - change to "AFS, FLA, high beam via AFS"
(ErweitereLichtsteuerung–ändernauf“AFS,FLA,FernlichtueberAFS“)

Menu control High beam assistant to "present"
(MenuesteuerungFernlichtassistentauf “vorhanden“)

Reset with ignition cycle was already off :-


High beam assistant Reset to "not active"
(FernlichtassistentResetauf“not aktiv“)
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Hey is it all working now with this coding also have you set the speed for hba to work or have you left it as default thanks
 
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Ash4753 said:
Hey is it all working now with this coding also have you set the speed for hba to work or have you left it as default thanks
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Hi, yes it’s all working thanks and no errors

I’ve set the ‘on’ speed to 24kph (15mph).


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Rob2k68 said:
Hi, yes it’s all working thanks and no errors

I’ve set the ‘on’ speed to 24kph (15mph).


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Hi also do you have the full led headlights
 
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