Snub mount for a4!!!

Lemforder .

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/search/337442545/p/home

The other day a 12% discount was applicable so it came out at £4.86 .

It comes with the audi scrubbed off , lol .

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That's a ****** **** take, unpaid the same Nozrul. Joke.
 
like I said chaps, audi ownership is a liscence to print money for audi.
 
Yes Rob, you're absolutely correct.

Any guide in in how to do the snub mount?

My understanding is undo the 3 hex bolts of the plate... Is the engine not required to be supported by something whilst this is done?
Is it true that before fully tightening the bolts the engine needs to run for bit?

Thanks
 
just undo the bolts on both parts and remove, no support needed , fit new bung to engine mounted portion, fit into chassis mounted portion and refit, takes 10 mins max, nothing else needed or required except don't forget to use plenty of fairy liquid on the rubber bung to ensure less binding on insertion to the reciptical...job done.
 
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Well chaps, I took the car out earlier on and all I can say is WOW.

The car is totally transformed. The cabin does have a slight bit of vibration on idle but I mean slight, also the exhaust is slightly louder, that's it though.
The rest is all positive. Gone was the rumble of the transmission when pulling off and the shaking associated with it, the car also picks up better, stops better and handles so so much better, its like a totally different car.

I can't quite believe how much a £12 mount has changed the car.

The proper test will be tomorrow when I'm in the car be myself and travelling to work, I have to go down several miles of windy country road so we'll see if I think it's still as good then when I've given it some hammer.
 
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Well done Dani, thanks for the review.
I decided to put mine of for few weeks now and will do it the same time I do the splitter - saves me from messing about with jacking the car twice.
 
I suppose I better get a rubber one and compare notes then chaps, if there's no big change then its off and back to the foam oem one.....
 
nope decided to stick with my B7 oem one after reading a fair few articles in the last 45 mins, as much as it maybe a good mod it's not a revised part for the B7 platform as it does come from a larger model A6 with heavier engines.
There is no revised B7 part to date only the one I have which kinda implies that they do work fine albeit with a short lifespan, normally if there is an issse with parts being poor quality or needing a revision it does get revised, this part hasn't been so happy to just replace it whenever needed I think.
The A6 bung does use a different bracket aswell for its proper fitment which is why it takes a fair bit leavaerge to fit it to the B7 setup.
just my input chap so make up you own mind on the best for your car.
 
Yes but nonetheless the rubber cannot be any worser for our cars - can it?
 
its not the material nozrul, a rubber bush will allways be stronger than foam etc and be far better at performing the task but its the fact that it's not really the right part to match the B7 mounts etc, when fitted it must be really tight so that will remove any room for the slightest movement which may not be the best situation, and the A6 mounts are different so wont fit, I just get this niggling feeling that I should stick with the oem part, maybe just me but when I get a niggling feeling I'm normally right , well for myself that is.
 
I see your point rob but from my view it's better for the car.

It's rubber so still allows for some movement unlike polyurethane, it is larger so literally fits tight into the slam panel mount this to me is better as it's removing unnecessary movement which will cause more strain in the drive train helping to wear out various other bushes mounts etc. Does that make sense?

To me the rubber mount is win win.

Also regarding the fitting, it will be no more challenging than if fitting the standard mount, just needs soaking in boiling water and the use of a bit of lube, that's it.
 
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The rubbish and too soft smaller engine's foam version yes , but not the V6 engines black rubber - £4.86 .

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well just been down to my local euro car parts chaps to pickup my rubber bung, less than £8.00 so not too bad, i'm going to swap over this evening, will report back tomorrow with my thoughts on it, it can either be good or indifferent, prefer the good really as others do rate it but wont be surprised if there no change .
rob
 
It's worth mentioning that an uprated harder polyurethane snub mount is best left for the smoother idle of petrol models .

If fitted particularly to a 4 pot derv it will probably transmit a vibration at idle , this is where the oem black rubber is best .
 
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You can't beat the V6 rubber one, it's stiffer than the foam based one, it also eliminates the top and bottom air gap but does retain a small gap either side. This to me is the best all round mount for money vs performance &a comfort while still offering better handling etc.
 
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Gazwould said:
It's worth mentioning that an uprated harder polyurethane snub mount is best left for the smoother idle of petrol models .

If fitted particularly to a 4 pot derv it will probably transmit a vibration at idle , this is where the oem black rubber is best .
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I can confirm this isn't actually entirely true. mines a dirty derv and I get 0 vibration atall and I have uprated engine and gearbox mounts to match the snub mount.
 
Always subjective , and another person would say "my filling fell out."

It may be the case of equally uprating all engine mounts as just a poly snub would cause the engine mounts to move more .

I've done the three with sucess with uprated rubber Nismo mounts on a petrol Jap car and when going to a harder shore or poly they transmit vibration at idle for that particular model .

So for 99% the sub £5 black rubber is " the daddy."
 
Dani_B19 said:
You can't beat the V6 rubber one, it's stiffer than the foam based one, it also eliminates the top and bottom air gap but does retain a small gap either side. This to me is the best all round mount for money vs performance &a comfort while still offering better handling etc.
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Price to performance yes its probably worth it... as for handling? the snub mount makes no change to the cars "handling" what so ever.
The snub mount is there only and soul purpose is to make sure the engine stays aligned to the rest of the drivetrain. which also isolates driver and engine vibrations. The only noticeable difference you will ever see is while shifting when worn you will find it more difficult and the get more driveline shock through the car.

(yeah I'm an audi technician) I've seen people change these out for aftermarket ones on a daily basis due to the OEM one just being so poor.
 
Hell yeah for ultimate handling even felt out on the road ( mostly corners and roundabouts ) you greatly reduce that shifting movement of weight whereas the car and engine/transmission want to go in opposite directions .
 
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Price to performance yes its probably worth it... as for handling? the snub mount makes no change to the cars "handling" what so ever.
The snub mount is there only and soul purpose is to make sure the engine stays aligned to the rest of the drivetrain. which also isolates driver and engine vibrations. The only noticeable difference you will ever see is while shifting when worn you will find it more difficult and the get more driveline shock through the car.

(yeah I'm an audi technician) I've seen people change these out for aftermarket ones on a daily basis due to the OEM one just being so poor.
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I'm sorry mate but that's ********, of course it's going to affect the handling as it has in my case and it will also affect how the car puts down power.

If you have a worn engine mount that's allowing the engine to move around under acceleration, cornering and braking of course that will affect the handling of the car as the engine weight is shifting around.

Same principal again for accelerating, if the mounts worn its allowing the drivetrain to move around and preventing the engine transferring the torque correctly to the wheels etc.
 
Dani_B19 said:
I'm sorry mate but that's ********, of course it's going to affect the handling as it has in my case and it will also affect how the car puts down power.

If you have a worn engine mount that's allowing the engine to move around under acceleration, cornering and braking of course that will affect the handling of the car as the engine weight is shifting around.

Same principal again for accelerating, if the mounts worn its allowing the drivetrain to move around and preventing the engine transferring the torque correctly to the wheels etc.
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you must know more about audi's and how the snub mount works while knowing what it actually does more than the designer does then (y), I'm not going to argue with you if that's what you want to think go ahead... but you are wrong.
 
well fitted the rubber mount in question a few hours ago and been out for a short drive and to be really , really honest I cannot feel any real beneficial change at all and the car drives just the same as before with the oem foam bush fitted, the only change I have noticed is a lot of extra vibrations and I do mean a lot and that is not beneficial from my perspective , never had it before but its there now probably 1000 rpm up to 1300 rpm and really noticible on idle all the time.
so i'm afraid i'm not a convert chaps, as much as the rubber jobbies is rated it does not work for me, my car drives and feels like a go kart at the best of times without the extra special effects of unwanted vibes, so it coming off tomorrow i'm afraid, if anyone wants the bung for a £5.00 drop me line...
rob
 
^ Probably irrelevant , this is most strange as we have such a recent positive review also from a TFSI owner . I would give it some time to bed in , I have know mounts to become more supple after being first fitted .

Dani_B19 said:
Well chaps, I took the car out earlier on and all I can say is WOW.

The car is totally transformed. The cabin does have a slight bit of vibration on idle but I mean slight, also the exhaust is slightly louder, that's it though.
The rest is all positive. Gone was the rumble of the transmission when pulling off and the shaking associated with it, the car also picks up better, stops better and handles so so much better, its like a totally different car.

I can't quite believe how much a £12 mount has changed the car.

The proper test will be tomorrow when I'm in the car be myself and travelling to work, I have to go down several miles of windy country road so we'll see if I think it's still as good then when I've given it some hammer.
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And a TDI owner with harder polybush engine and snub mounts , a harder material especially on a diesel gives more vibration than petrol . Yet he claims there is no vibration at all !

WTF is going on with such a difference of option .

Thank God there are constants in the world as I'm yet to find someone who doesn't like chocolate .
 
Gazwould said:
What's the rest of your suspension detail ?
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nothing really special or racy Gaz, just s-line dampers with H&R 45mm drop springs all round, RS4 ARB which was fitted from new at the factory, 18" alloys on ET35 , that's about it.
As there was no noticeable vibes with the old bung or with the new oem item then I cant really point the finger at anything else on the car that would be causing the vibes, and really with the lowered and uprated springs , rs4 arb and s-line dampers I don't think I was ever likely to see any change in the overall handling , the old bung was tired but not falling apart that much and after comparing the two foam items closer I could have probably just left the original one in for a while longer.

My gear change had become a bit smoother with the new foam bung but handling etc hasn't changed at all with any off the bungs, I suppose if the old bung was really bad and had worn to the point that there was a lot of excessive movement and I was running standard setup car then maybe the change to a stiffer rubber bung would be a noticeable upgrade, I think dani is running standard non s-line suspension with normal springs on his SE so that may also be a factor to consider when comparing any improvements between specific installations.

I agree rubber bushes do need to bed in after a while but based on how tight a fit the rubber fit ones are from the V6 into the A4 brackets I cant see that bedding in happening for quite some time.
Anyway, no gains for me and another item to tick off the " no change " list, will be interested to see if other have differing results.
rob
 
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I thought s line was just the interior trim, never knew uprated type suspension and other bits as well...
As my foam oem is not falling apart I'm just wondering if it's really we worth me replacing it with the rubber oem if it causes more vibration? Because that could drive me mad.... My wagon is a petrol.
 
just for future ref nozrul, the s-line is a whole package, it included interior upgrades / extra's such as different seats and materials also trim levels, exterior bodywork enhancements such as the door blades etc , different front grills , bumpers and valances etc , extra badges and suspension enhancements ( uprated/lowered package), well that's an brief overview but more info can be found in the complete sales brochure as to what is included .
hope that helped a bit.
 
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