No Heat, Coolant tank pressurised, over flowing, HELP!

killa kombo

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Good Morning

I have a 2004 8P Pd140 BKD. 145k

When im driving along i will get a low coolant warning, ill pull over and my tank will appear empty, when i release the cap 'whooosh' the coolant will rush to the max level. This will happen every 20 minutes while driving the car normally. As the reservoir pressurises it pushes the coolant through the over flow (im guessing) whilst driving, I do have to up a litre coolant every other day. I will get the low coolant warning seconds after the temp gauge hits 90. When the heating is on it is barely luke warm, if that.

Work I've done:
  • New cap and Reservoir
  • Coolant Flush and New Coolant 5050 G12
  • New thermostat Genuine part
  • New coolant temp sensor Genuine Part
There is no oil in the water, no water in the oil, no mayo, no steam out the exhaust, no leaks, no coolant bubbling, no leaks, no power loss, manifold is coolant free, oil change was clear of any irregularities.

I will be doing a heater matrix flush next to see a possible blockage is the reason for the pressure build up and lack of heat in the cabin.

is it an air lock? blockage? my local indy doesn't have a clue either charged me £50 to put a £4 leak detector dye in the coolant, no luck.

If any one could help me out that'll be great.

Thanks in advance
 
Well i had an astra coupe turbo a few years back that was running over 500hp that had the same issues coolant pressurising, but no smoke no power loss, changed everything then decided to get the head off and the head gasket was shot and inturn had warped the block, hopefully yours isnt this but i had the same problems.

If all else fail maybe your water pump could be goosed, whens the last time it was changed? Dunno how a pressure test would work with a tdi but maybe try one of those also

Cheers
Dave w
 
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Sounds like a classic air lock to me - put a proper vacuum pump on it.
 
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Air lock from me as well. Have you tried filling with coolant to the correct level and run the engine on idle for a good while with the filler cap off? Whilst it's warming up go around each water hose and squeeze it as it helps rid air from the pipework. You should see air escaping for the first couple of minutes whilst the engine is warming up. Turn the engine off before it gets hot and top up to the max line on the expansion tank, fit the cap and drive for a while, to see if the problem re-occurs.
Having said that, the cooling system is designed to bleed itself as the expansion bottle is at the highest point of the cooling system, air will eventually go up and be released even if the heater matrix is blocked. Causes are the water pump is not pumping, radiator is blocked, the pipework has been wrongly routed or head gasket has gone. If you have an infra-red thermometer you can trace the temperatures around the cooling system yourself.
 
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Thank you for your input guys.

@S3dave1990 @mjr901 @Soot1 The water pump is working just fine. I have bled the system of air and the problem still occurs however there has been a development:

The weather has gone cold here in sunny Manchester lol, and whilst driving today there was plenty of steam (more visible due to the drop in temp) that smelt like coolant coming from the exhaust whilst driving. After some research, my findings point me towards a bad EGR cooler which can apparently leak internally and burn off in the exhaust hence the steam. So as well as flushing the heater matrix this week I will be performing a EGR cooler delete as my EGR valve is blanked off already.

I don't think the cylinder head or the gasket is at fault here, but we will shortly find out through my process of elimination, working my way down starting with the cheapest option first.

Thank you again for your input guys, I will be updating my situation later on this week.
 
UPDATE TIME

I was unable to do an EGR Cooler delete as the parts didn't arrive on time. But i did find traces of oil in the turbo intake pipe, hence the smoke, is this normal? my oil levels are normal and contaminant free.

However i did flush the heater matrix, drained the system, and refilled with fresh coolant, bled as much air until there was no more air to be squeezed out. There was a lot more heat in the cabin but it still isn't 100%.

I let it idle with the cap off for 10 minutes, no luck.

10 minutes into driving 'low coolant' warning. FML.

@mjr901 Vacuum Sounds expensive? Unless you can do it for me? ;-)

@Soot1 i will order a infrared thermometer, any other way to test a blocked radiator?

Or does anyone where I can get this sorted ?
 
Beginning to look the EGR cooler is at fault now, especially with the white smoke. S'pose you won't know until you've finished the work.
You will have some oil in the turbo to intercooler pipework, that's normal.
 
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So EGR valve and cooler delete done and the problem is stil f*ckin there!!!

running out of options here :-( ordered a block tester kit to check for exhaust gases, should be here this week

However I have now got this fault code could it be related??



Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 D HW: 8P0 820 043 D
Component: KlimavollautomatH12 0150
Revision: 010059 Serial number: 8P0820043D
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D51EF3FB4E4E5760F5-8078

1 Fault Found:
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 180
Reset counter: 38
Mileage: 227538 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.09.18
Time: 06:59:53

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 13.60 V
Temperature: 11.0°C
(no units): 170.0
(no units): 34.0
Temperature: 10.5°C


Thank you