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The company will tell you anything to sell them. Had issues with flyeyes on another forum I was on when a member failed an MOT. Anything that hinders light output is a danger whether the company says its legal or not. Search on Google for flyeye issues!!
 
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There's many risks involved here that rather outweigh the apparent benefits;

1/ for better or worse, it is illegal. This matters not a jot to most people who do it because they don't see, or don't believe, the sort of inertia that the justice system is capable of picking up when given the chance. What starts out as an "easily reversible" mod can, in the worst of (but all to common) circumstances turn out to be the worst thing you ever did. For instance, don't assume that your insurance company will cover you just because you've declared it to them (if indeed you have). They're not lawyers, and they're not VOSA inspectors, but they'll take your money knowing their cover only applies if the car is roadworthy. This will bite you. If, in one of many possible hypothetical situations, we were to have a coming together and I crashed into the back of your car (a situation that would ordinarily be completely my fault), my insurer would attempt to turn the tables and claim the damages from you, since you had reduced the effectiveness of your position markers, lights and reflectors to a level below the legal minimum standard. The car is not roadworthy, and thus illegal. Your actions would be deemed to have been a contributory factor, and you can bet your last pound coin I'd pounce on the get of jail free card you'd just handed me, and grab it both hands. "Impossible to see his brake lights" would be my cry, as I fiegned every injury going from whiplash to a paper cut for the insurance company claim form.

2/ Your insurer may well then turn around and tell you that since you have modified your vehicle to make it illegal, then your insurance is null and void. My insurer, having bought me a brand new car, would then sue you, personally, to pay for my new car.

3/ If, heaven forbid, you were to be involved in an incident that was rather more serious and someone were to die or suffer life changing injuries, then you can expect several months of sphincter loosening anxiety attacks whilst the legal beagles work out if they can make a case stick that you might share some element of responsibility. If so, then expect several leather bound judiciary volumes to be hurled in your general direction. I actually know a chap who had this happen to him, and his simple failure to display his rear lights on a dark road rapidly cascaded into a situation that involved much carnage, a broken family, a horrific death, and ended up with him serving time in prison.

4/ the result from that little saga could then result in further hardship, since the civil action from the affected family will take the shirt from your back and the roof from over your head. Goodbye S3, hello Y plate focus estate serving as both your car and your abode. Assuming you'd managed to get your wife/husband/partner to stick with you this long, this would probably be the final nail in the relationship coffin.

5/ even if the above seems far fetched (it isn't), then even in the most harmless of situations you can expect the police to treat you like an idiot, because in their view, only an idiot would tint his lights and windows so they didn't work properly. Taken to the sorts of extremes I regularly see here in East London, this means lots of stop & seaches, lots of tickets, lots of aggro, and if they're feeling particularly irritated, the car will be prohibited from being driven on the road until you've rectified the problem. That means you get to look like a total **** while they humiliate you by making you peel the tints off in front of a crowd of onlookers, or you pay to have the car towed away, or you leave your precious car at the side of the road in whatever town / village / inner city sink estate / industrial park you happen to be in...

6/ ... I saved this one 'til last, as I didn't want it to taint the arguments detailed above. Point 6 is this;

Let's face it, its the sort of boy racer mod normally reserved for 15 year old Hondas sporting stretched tyres and ridiculous camber angles. It really doesn't suit an S3 of such recent vintage, which has rather too much class to be adorned in such a manner. When weighed against the potential for calamity because you've made your car illegal, it's borderline insane.
 
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@GSB extremely well put. I said what you have in a less in your face way, but I feel you have written what is needed in this respect. Hopefully your post will be taken seriously. :respekt:
 
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Had my grill, mirrors and around the windows wrapped black and 20% all around on the windows
 
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The mind boggles .

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That use to happen to my 'Hotwheels' cars with excessive play...lol
His car would be worth so much more.............If he kept the box.....lol
 
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Had my grill, mirrors and around the windows wrapped black and 20% all around on the windows

Just for clarity (if you'll excuse the pun), is that a 20% film on top of the existing windows, or 20% including the light transmission in the existing glass?
 
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When I got the car it had no tints atall


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When I got the car it had no tints atall


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There's a natural tint to all glass. Even glass that appears untinted will cut as much as 10% of visible light out. Add to much tint to a windscreen, and it might take you over the legal limit. The key is to know what your total tint is (glass plus film) and keep it under 25% for the windscreen, and 30% for the front side windows.

The only way to check this is with a specialist measuring tool.
 
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The window screen hasn't been tinted atall, when you get factory tint is 35% mine is darker than factory all round which is 20%, I am aware it's not legal


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Got mine tinted!
 

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There's a natural tint to all glass. Even glass that appears untinted will cut as much as 10% of visible light out. Add to much tint to a windscreen, and it might take you over the legal limit. The key is to know what your total tint is (glass plus film) and keep it under 25% for the windscreen, and 30% for the front side windows.

The only way to check this is with a specialist measuring tool.


In all honesty l think we are dealing with a more more youthful mindset @GSB who throw more caution to the wind than us more more mature guys,l know for a fact if the police stop you for overly tinted front windows,they will ask you to remove the tint there and then and if that ain't possible...it will stay where it lays until you do remove them....take the keys/compound it.....
 
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If you know it's not legal, why do it??? I don't understand that mindset. Insurance automatically invalid hence you are driving a uninsured illegal car! Totally bonkers if you ask me. For other drivers sake I hope you don't have a moment! As @GSB said, it could prove pretty costly on more than one front.
 
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If you know it's not legal, why do it???

"But... but... but... it looks good!"


*time passes*...

*even more time passes*...

*penny suddenly drops*

"Holy ****, that haircut with the silly bun on top of my head did make me look like a total tool after all! and that daft beard! Oh Jesus, did I really wear those jeans that tight? And so low you could see my pants? OMG! OMG? did I really used to communicate using terms like OMG?, and the car! That beautiful car! What sort of **** does that to his lights! And the windows! Oh dear god it's a miracle I'm not dead. Or a virgin"..

Etc...
 
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Been stopped plenty of times police have never said anything about the Windows I can understand why the tinted lights are illegal, but you can clearly see out of the Windows an am such an **** because I tinted the Windows


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If it wasn't the windows, or the lights, why were you stopped? I haven't been stopped in 15 years, and even prior to that I when I was hardly a motoring angel I could count the number of times I was stopped on one hand of a careless carpenter.

When you consider how rare it is to come across an actual traffic copper these days, it's actually pretty unlikely that ever you'd get stopped at all, never mind plenty of times.
 
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Few more pictures, tints all round midnight rears and light smoke fronts, and fully de-chromed. Lowered 25mm H&R and 15/20mm spacers
 
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Living not far from the Traffic Cops base up here in sunny Lanarkshire, I see them pretty regularly. However, that tends to be them blue lighting somewhere. On a day to day basis driving around and to work , I haven't witnessed any in months, possibly over a year.
Did over 300 miles last weekend all on A roads and motorways and didn't see one.
Becoming a rare breed, sadly.
 
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Living not far from the Traffic Cops base up here in sunny Lanarkshire, I see them pretty regularly. However, that tends to be them blue lighting somewhere. On a day to day basis driving around and to work , I haven't witnessed any in months, possibly over a year.
Did over 300 miles last weekend all on A roads and motorways and didn't see one.
Becoming a rare breed, sadly.

All over you like a tramp on chips if you have even a tiny prang though... I got wiped out by an artic on the North Circular in 2012, and they seemed to come out of the woodwork like a minor infestation.
 
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This looks awesome fella.

How difficult would it be to wrap the chrome grill slats?

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Firstly car looks awesome- wheel spacers? Don't they alter and mess up the whole cars dynamics? Excessive tyre wear etc etc.

One garage recc them over lowering and another condemned them


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Car drives perfect on them and they are proper H&R hub-centric spacers. I got a 3D alignment done after fitting tho, as you should anyway after lowering.

I got a local company to wrap them so I'm not sure how difficult it was.

Thanks for the comments loving the car and much more refined over my previous S3 8P
 
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If it wasn't the windows, or the lights, why were you stopped? I haven't been stopped in 15 years, and even prior to that I when I was hardly a motoring angel I could count the number of times I was stopped on one hand of a careless carpenter.

When you consider how rare it is to come across an actual traffic copper these days, it's actually pretty unlikely that ever you'd get stopped at all, never mind plenty of times.


Maybe because am 19 driving a s3 in Liverpool that's half of the reason I get them tinted


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Hmmm....an interesting topic. The local constabulary may not stop you, but if you are in an accident believe me you will probably be in deep excrement. Also if you are nailed for a traffic violation and you are a wee bit lippy or the the cop is having a bad day, you will also pay the piper. I am not going to get into the semantics of looks but I do not understand why you would want to make your outward visibility worse on a dark night.
 
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Where are you guys buying the tint film or are you getting people to do yours?