S3 oil - Quantum vs Castrol?
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Avoid the long-life stuff,as the only advantage if you can call it that,is for long service intervals.
Mine was originally on that schedule,and the oil was nasty by the time it was changed at it's first major service.
Stick to any good quality oil from the list,and change at 10k miles or less.
Some of us use either Miller Nanodrive,or Motul 300V Race.
Mine was originally on that schedule,and the oil was nasty by the time it was changed at it's first major service.
Stick to any good quality oil from the list,and change at 10k miles or less.
Some of us use either Miller Nanodrive,or Motul 300V Race.
We have no way of telling which is better without labritory fresh and used oil analysis between the two .
When you buy Quantum oil in 20L barrels they have BP Belgium on them so it's either made at Ghent or Antwerp .
So it's not rocket science who makes it as Castrol is a brand of BP .
Both approved 504.00 507.00 , avoid the Castrol premium , just another example of dual marketing , buy the Quantum .
Don't avoid LongLife oil it's high quality as it has to lubricate , and be water , soot , fuel and high temperature resistant for longer .
Just avoid the LongLife interval .
When you buy Quantum oil in 20L barrels they have BP Belgium on them so it's either made at Ghent or Antwerp .
So it's not rocket science who makes it as Castrol is a brand of BP .
Both approved 504.00 507.00 , avoid the Castrol premium , just another example of dual marketing , buy the Quantum .
Don't avoid LongLife oil it's high quality as it has to lubricate , and be water , soot , fuel and high temperature resistant for longer .
Just avoid the LongLife interval .
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Yes...I get your point re the LongLife stuff....just that most use it for exactly that reason.
I'm just a bit paranoid about it....
Well what oil basestock groups are the ester racing Motul 300V / Miller Nanodrive CFS etc compared to an ordinary fully synthetic ?
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You're the expert on that I think,not me!....I just put it in the car as recommended by Storm.
All I can say about 300V is there's less carry over and residues in the catch can since switching over,and lower overall oil consumption.
For sure any ester racing marketed oil is top draw , it's not a pure group 5 ester but groups 3 , 4 & 5 or 4 & 5 .
It will only ever contain a maximum of
10 - 20% group 5 ester .
An ordinary fully synthetic will be just group 3 which is really a severely hydrocracked mineral oil allowed to be called a synthetic by law .
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/29113/base-oil-groups
So there we have it by a German labritory a LongLife 5W30 504.00 507.00 can have the same basestocks as ester racing .
Sadly we do not know which 504.00 507.00 was tested , what proportion the group 5 is and I doubt all 504.00 507.00 are the same basestocks , some could be group 3 with an excellent additive package.
It will only ever contain a maximum of
10 - 20% group 5 ester .
An ordinary fully synthetic will be just group 3 which is really a severely hydrocracked mineral oil allowed to be called a synthetic by law .
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/29113/base-oil-groups
So there we have it by a German labritory a LongLife 5W30 504.00 507.00 can have the same basestocks as ester racing .
Sadly we do not know which 504.00 507.00 was tested , what proportion the group 5 is and I doubt all 504.00 507.00 are the same basestocks , some could be group 3 with an excellent additive package.
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All to complicated for me, I keep it simple for myself, I use Longlife 3 and due to the low mileage I do (approx 5k per annum), it gets serviced every year at MOT time.
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I thought you'd have the data knocking around.
All I need is something that doesn't degrade and break down easily and this seems to fit the bill.
Oil ingredient data is very secretive , usually only oil data sheets that won't tell you about basestock groups is available .
Something that doesn't degrade and breakdown easily is LongLife or ester racing marketed oils.
Something that doesn't degrade and breakdown easily is LongLife or ester racing marketed oils.
504.00 507.00 also is a TDI PD oil , the whole point of it is to avoid PD camshaft wear because their 3rd middle PD camshaft lobe takes up space .
The valves camshaft lobes are narrow because of lack of space , and narrow means high loadings and vunrable to wear.
So 504.00 507.00 is high anti wear and a LongLife oil which at £22 for 5L makes it a high quality bang for buck choice .
The valves camshaft lobes are narrow because of lack of space , and narrow means high loadings and vunrable to wear.
So 504.00 507.00 is high anti wear and a LongLife oil which at £22 for 5L makes it a high quality bang for buck choice .
Castrol make quantum oil so it must be ok? My Audi dealer uses shell oil in Stafford. I've just bought a 5 litre quantum long life for future top ups , it's a no brainier if it's quality and also approved
Cheap Motul ester racing oil from Opie Oils at the moment for those of you at Stage 2 and 2+.
Don't know how it compares to 300V .
Don't know how it compares to 300V .
I also use quantum longlife but still change it every 6k or so. at 20 quid or there abouts for 5l and the price of a filter work for me.
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We have no way of telling which is better without labritory fresh and used oil analysis between the two .
When you buy Quantum oil in 208L barrels they have BP Belgium on them so it's either made at Ghent or Antwerp .
Ghent !
So it's not rocket science who makes it as Castrol is a brand of BP .
Both approved 504.00 507.00 , avoid the Castrol premium , just another example of dual marketing , buy the Quantum .
Don't avoid LongLife oil it's high quality as it has to lubricate , and be water , soot , fuel and high temperature resistant for longer .
Just avoid the LongLife interval .
We have no way of telling which is better without labritory fresh and used oil analysis between the two .
When you buy Quantum oil in 208L barrels they have BP Belgium on them so it's either made at Ghent or Antwerp .
Ghent !
So it's not rocket science who makes it as Castrol is a brand of BP .
Both approved 504.00 507.00 , avoid the Castrol premium , just another example of dual marketing , buy the Quantum .
Don't avoid LongLife oil it's high quality as it has to lubricate , and be water , soot , fuel and high temperature resistant for longer .
Just avoid the LongLife interval .
