Air filter cover on or off?

Ahmed Hoang

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Good afternoon!

I need some help on figuring out if it's fine to use the car without the air filter cover on. I have a 1.2 2011 A3, I recently put in a K&N filter and drove around without the cover and I love the sound.

However after speaking to a few friends I was told that removing the cover wouldn't do any good to the engine. Whilst others were saying it would be fine as its positioned away from the engine.

I tried to do my own research but I couldn't find out much. It would be great to get some opinions. Here's a picture of the bay
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I don't see why you will have any issues at all, you may be drawing in more heated air from the top of the filter rather than colder air from underneath from the air inlet , no harm will be done in my opinion tho
 
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Put it back on. Although air will still be filtered wherever it comes from, you'll loose a bit of power and use more fuel.
 
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Is there any way of monitoring this? I've checked the oil temperature after driving aggressively and I'm running at 100 Celsius.
 
Put it back on. Although air will still be filtered wherever it comes from, you'll loose a bit of power and use more fuel.
Thanks Soot, I'm going to do that. I began to smell a lot of hot metal after driving it for a bit.
 
Remove it and put the standard airbox/filter back on. Induction kits are for losers.
 
Induction kits are for losers.

Care to elaborate at all?

I get that on a 1.2 it may be seen as a needless mod as you're barely/not going to see any performance benefits, but if he's after it for the sound, then I still wouldn't call him a loser as he drives a nice A3 rather than a chavtastic Corsa/Fiesta.

On a 2L turbo when you're chasing more power, especially at stage 2+ and above, then an induction kit is going to get you a lot more power then the restrictive standard airbox, so again I fail to see how induction kits are for losers?
 
Even talking in 'stage 1' 'stage 2' is nutter comical nonscense..

An induction kit will do very little for your engine, and also potentially damage any engine using a MAF sensor which I believe the OP's has. You may see a little increase on a rolling road result, but wait till its all warmed up inside the hot engine bay, you will actually see a decrease in power because of it.

Granted, you may change to a MAP sensor as you go further up the tuning ladder and running a standalone management system. the majority of standard manufacturer airboxes can provide enough airflow for over 350bhp, some closer to 500bhp, I highly doubt a 1.2 is going to get near those figures.

It does sound like you haven't actually built any engines or mapped any cars yourself and just reading off the standard internet jargon in your response.

Chavs love induction kits as they love the 'noise' much like dump valves, along with 'dewipering' their cars its just a fashion accessory, same as atmospheric dump valves, it seems to not matter what damage and poor running performance it is doing.
 
Come on guys, this hardly an induction kit? It's just a plug in K&N filter! Yes, he should put the cover back on, but that's all the OP was asking in the first place.
 
Even talking in 'stage 1' 'stage 2' is nutter comical nonscense..

Most reputable tuners highly advise a CAI from stage 2, but of course this is just utter comical nonsense on their behalf right? Albeit stage 2+ is where it's really beneficial as per my comment.

An induction kit will do very little for your engine, and also potentially damage any engine using a MAF sensor which I believe the OP's has. You may see a little increase on a rolling road result, but wait till its all warmed up inside the hot engine bay, you will actually see a decrease in power because of it.

Providing you have the CAI and map both setup correctly by someone competent enough, have the piping heat wrapped and a heat shield, then the heat soak will be minimal, so would find it hard to see that in this case (S3Alex as an example) people would see a decrease in power over the standard airbox.

Granted, you may change to a MAP sensor as you go further up the tuning ladder and running a standalone management system. the majority of standard manufacturer airboxes can provide enough airflow for over 350bhp, some closer to 500bhp, I highly doubt a 1.2 is going to get near those figures.

It does sound like you haven't actually built any engines or mapped any cars yourself and just reading off the standard internet jargon in your response.

Like I said, doing it on a 1.2 is pointless but it's up to the owner and I certainly wouldn't call him a loser for doing it.

That's true that some standard manufacturer airboxes can last to over 400bhp, however the S3's cannot. It struggles past stage 2, even the Forge Twintake and VWR closed induction kits have difficulty at stage 2+ (350bhp+) and this has been proven by -Ju- who tested & logged various kits at this stage.

You must be really clever to be able to deduct from my first comment that I am not a mechanic/tuner, even though everything that I said was true.

Chavs love induction kits as they love the 'noise' much like dump valves, along with 'dewipering' their cars its just a fashion accessory, same as atmospheric dump valves, it seems to not matter what damage and poor running performance it is doing.

I like the noise that my Revo CAI intakes makes, so that automatically makes me a chav according to your logic, others like prt57 don't like the noise but wanted the most out of stage 2+, so that makes him a loser..

I too would also not change the diverter valve on my S3 to a dump valve.

De-wipering makes the S3 look better in my opinion, it doesn't in yours, so what? I don't go around insulting people for their tastes so guess I'm intrigued why others can't do the same and be constructive instead.
 
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IMO the only issue you MIGHT have is that it might absorb more heat coming from the engine if left open and as its still in the airfilter box it might not escape as easy which may cause slight performance loss. however you have the looks and noise when left open but may get grubby faster.. If left closed It will reduce the noise that people like with it. I thought most cone filters were designed to be out of the box anyways ?

The performance you gain from filters are minimal anyways but cone filters are more prone to heat soak which can effect performance sometimes.. My missis 350Z was very touchy on airfilters on a cone filter.. we went through 3 types due to problems but my Supra has never had issues.

If your not getting any problems with it open .. keep it like that if that's how you want it.
 

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