Induction kits what one to get

Salik Sajid said:
few ppl are running in US as its very costly compare to other induction kits
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Looks stunning though :-

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I've just ordered and awaiting the new forge carbon Gen 3 intake. See how it is then be going Revo stage 1.
 
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Good stuff. I'm away with work till the weekend, so hopefully it will be sat at home when I return for me to fit and see how it goes.
 
MikeParkin said:
Good stuff. I'm away with work till the weekend, so hopefully it will be sat at home when I return for me to fit and see how it goes.
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Very exciting mate. Out of interest, do you have any figures/data on how it performs against the VWR600 intake?
 
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I don't mate sorry. Just thought I'd go with something different that's all, but didn't want something that was restrictive for later upgrades. Did your friend say it improved the car at all ? What is he running ?
 
Yes it is certainly better than OEM intake. He is running at around 400bhp and is Stage 2+
However he can't fit the APR catch can so easily without having a custom bracket made...whereas I have the APR carbonio intake which the catch can bolts onto the side of seamlessly. I was interested in maybe changing my intake, and I know the VWR600 provides the best gains...but the Forge one looks really nice...but I want to improve performance not just looks
 
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I see, does the catch can bolt directly to the VWR600?
I'm sure forge know what there doing with there intakes and I would imagine it would be a good competitor to the other intakes on the market.
I'd also get a custom bracket made to suit if one is not available at a later date.
 
MikeParkin said:
I see, does the catch can bolt directly to the VWR600?
I'm sure forge know what there doing with there intakes and I would imagine it would be a good competitor to the other intakes on the market.
I'd also get a custom bracket made to suit if one is not available at a later date.
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yes mate Forge definitely know what they are doing, and it is a very nice looking bit of kit....loooooads of carbon...you will notice a difference in performance and sound I'm sure....good luck and let us know how you get on with it after
 
MikeParkin said:
I see, does the catch can bolt directly to the VWR600?
I'm sure forge know what there doing with there intakes and I would imagine it would be a good competitor to the other intakes on the market.
I'd also get a custom bracket made to suit if one is not available at a later date.
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sorry...not sure...doubt it....catch can from APR comes with a bracket that fits perfectly onto the side of the APR carbon intake....the only problem I see with the much bigger air intakes (VWR, Forge) is that there is not space for the catch can to reach with the supplied hoses and for it to be on the right side of the engine to connect up...so it might be a bit more fiddly than just a custom bracket...be interested to know if anyone else has got round this....but possibly not many people are bothered about the catch can as it doesn't increase performance, just helps to keep all the harmful (and potentially performance affecting vapours) out of a modified engine
 
I've emailed forge to see if they are developing a catch can to run with there intake.
 
hey mike @MikeParkin ....just saw this on FB and thought it might interest you if you are looking to modify more later and is relevant regarding your choice of intake now:

While tuning our upcoming MK7 Stage 3 turbocharger system, we pushed many boundaries in an effort to find the limit where increasing boost pressure would start to result in compressor surge. We also took this opportunity to see if the APR Carbon Fiber Intake System was a restriction while producing over 500 HP. We dynoed with the APR intake system, and then replaced it with an ideal entrance and dynoed again. Based on all data we’ve collected, the results were as as expected; No loss in power with the APR intake installed! If you’re looking for the best intake on the market, and one that will work no matter how far you push the engine, the APR Carbon Fiber Intake system is the way to go!

Enjoy the video. It’s quite loud.

 
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Hello from Australia.

You can always run a different catch can, black forest industries make a good one that attaches on the other side of the engine bay and connects straight onto the crank case which is kinda of nice. similar price to the APR stuff

http://store.blackforestindustries.com/bficlcacacan1.html

I'm not convinced the APR intakes and others can get as much airflow as the forge or vwr just due to the size of the inlet (some people do cut out the front section of it to increase airflow admittedly)

George from JB tuning seems to swear by the wide inlet intakes like the forge and VWR. Likely going the forge myself but what happens with the SAI, all the photos I've seen of the product dont seem to have it?
 
Good morning @Fluffmeister AU. I'm just going for the forge as I think it looks good as well performance, which I'm sure it will. It made gains stock and I'm only going off what Forge has put on there website. So I'd assume it will when the car is remapped also.
 
yeah that's great info @Fluffmeister AU thanks for posting and hello Australia!! :)
I also was convinced that the VWR and Forge would produce better performance gains...but I liked the fit and quality of the APR catch can so bit the bullet rather than changing the intake for now....and was just a coincidence I saw that video on FB today...I'm not sure about going Stage 3 so will keep current set up but Mike now has some good choices to make! :)
 
Fluffmeister AU said:
Hello from Australia.

You can always run a different catch can, black forest industries make a good one that attaches on the other side of the engine bay and connects straight onto the crank case which is kinda of nice. similar price to the APR stuff

http://store.blackforestindustries.com/bficlcacacan1.html

I'm not convinced the APR intakes and others can get as much airflow as the forge or vwr just due to the size of the inlet (some people do cut out the front section of it to increase airflow admittedly)

George from JB tuning seems to swear by the wide inlet intakes like the forge and VWR. Likely going the forge myself but what happens with the SAI, all the photos I've seen of the product dont seem to have it?
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I think the SAI is only for the US market....the VWR600 has a connection for it for US markets

THE R600 INTAKE


Welcome to the R600 intake. We believe that this is the world’s most sophisticated intake for MQB-platform EA888 cars, now including a Secondary Air Injector (SAI) connector for North American models. Functionally, a vastly-enlarged airbox houses a giant TriFoam™ triple-layer filter. Using twin front air intakes, from both sides of the front panel, this rates the intake up to 600bhp through the very significantly improved mass airflow through to the turbo.

Appearance-wise, the airbox is manufactured in the UK from the same PU material as the original factory airbox, matched in to the same finish and appearance as the engine cover. This attention to detail extends to all the fittings, which use the factory mounting methods ensuring simple and reliable fitment, with nice details such as the drain plug connection, and now for the US market, attachments for the Secondary Air Injection (SAI) pipe. All to assure you of the same levels of quality and durability as a factory part.
 
PanamaS3 said:
I think the SAI is only for the US market....the VWR600 has a connection for it for US markets
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Good catch!

You may be right, the car is in the shop at the moment after being rear ended :( So haven't actually been able to check the engine bay, maybe I don't need it after all :/ In which case that makes my decisions easier!
 
Fluffmeister AU said:
Good catch!

You may be right, the car is in the shop at the moment after being rear ended :( So haven't actually been able to check the engine bay, maybe I don't need it after all :/ In which case that makes my decisions easier!
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damn! sorry to hear that....hope it gets all fixed up right, and assume no whiplash or other injuries....sounds like you need to put your foot down more to avoid that happening again in the future lol
I think from reading up on all the intakes that gains +/- between all the performance intakes seem minimal/arguable by all of them...I guess it just comes down to personal choice at the time...the great thing is there is more choice and more products coming out all the time for our beloved car :)
 
Stupid question alert again - On these cars, what changes to the intake can be made without having to tinker with the ECU? Do you still see any gains without?
 
Beery said:
Stupid question alert again - On these cars, what changes to the intake can be made without having to tinker with the ECU? Do you still see any gains without?
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You will get small gains - response, torque - just from it breathing easier and the ECU will adapt to the higher flow to a certain extent. However these effects will be amplified by a remap, and maximise the product of the map.
 
Salik Sajid said:
anyone heard about this new Revo carbon intake

http://www.revotechnik.com/product-details/air-filter-intake-kits/carbon-air-filter-mqb&engineid=182
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Yes I'm quite interested but trying to find out the following :-

1. Is water hose clipping retained in front of air box ?
2. Clear lacquered ?
3. Intake noise over stock ?
4. Maintenance requirement of filter ?
5. Is removal of the snow guard required ?

Once I've found out I'll post but this is on my short list of two this and the S-Flo above.

I quite like the three pronged attack intake grille, intake hose and foam filter combo also it should match well with my Revo stage 1.
 
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So I've just taken delivery and installed the new Revo MQB air intake, I bought the 3 piece system which includes carbon fibre air intake, replacement foam Hi-Flo air filter and a silicon intake hose which is a larger diameter at the ends to maintain a constant inner diameter (no steps) for smooth uninterrupted air flow. After a very short test drive I'm very impressed thus far ......

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very nice Rob....am I right in saying you opened up the grill in front to allow more air in?
did you replace the OEM plastic (restrictive) turbo inlet elbow (shown in right of picture)?...or just new silicon tube to it?
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PanamaS3 said:
very nice Rob....am I right in saying you opened up the grill in front to allow more air in?
did you replace the OEM plastic (restrictive) turbo inlet elbow (shown in right of picture)?...or just new silicon tube to it?
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Whoa whoa whoa rewind! Where do I get that from?!
 
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I've queried this previously and got no response as I would like one of these at some point.
 
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PanamaS3 said:
very nice Rob....am I right in saying you opened up the grill in front to allow more air in?
did you replace the OEM plastic (restrictive) turbo inlet elbow (shown in right of picture)?...or just new silicon tube to it?
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Cheers ;o)

Just the silicon tube - inlet elbow looks interesting can this be done with the turbo in situ ?

Air intake is open both sides probably 2-3x the area of OEM part.
 
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I just use tinternet to find stuff...no idea if there's a UK agent but there must be as this is a cheap small mod for great gains...wouldn't be expensive to ship either I would say.
I think someone else has also come up with something similar in silicon...but I prefer this solution
 
Rob2k68 said:
inlet elbow looks interesting can this be done with the turbo in situ ?
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I think so mate...they say its just a 10 minute job:

"This part is compatible with any MQB vehicle, regardless of engine displacement or factory turbocharger size.
It is compatible with any intake system, be it factory stock or aftermarket.

Simple installation takes 10 minutes and can be done using basic handtools."

I will let you know after I've had it done :)
 
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MikeParkin said:
I've queried this previously and got no response as I would like one of these at some point.
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Rob2k68 said:
Cheers ;o)

Just the silicon tube - inlet elbow looks interesting can this be done with the turbo in situ ?

Air intake is open both sides probably 2-3x the area of OEM part.
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Gents, I'm on this. Mark at Brotek can supply these, he wants numbers for a group buy and will sort prices out asap. I'll start a group buy thread in a moment!
 
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batch said:
Gents, I'm on this. Mark at Brotek can supply these, he wants numbers for a group buy and will sort prices out asap. I'll start a group buy thread in a moment!
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Awesome !!

Any fitting instructions before putting names down - is it home DIY without any special tools ?
 
Rob2k68 said:
Awesome !!

Any fitting instructions before putting names down - is it home DIY without any special tools ?
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It says it is mate - domestic hand tools only and 10-15 mins work. It's basically the bit that the Forge pipe we have attaches to?

The thread is up...
 
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batch said:
It says it is mate - domestic hand tools only and 10-15 mins work. It's basically the bit that the Forge pipe we have attaches to?

The thread is up...
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I've just downloaded the fitting instructions from the CTS site - looks very straight forward ;o)
 
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I'm still undecided about intake side of things!
Yes, a smoother / larger turbo inlet pipe would be nice!
its just what air box am i going to use! I'm not overly bothered about noise from it, just a performance gain.

i want a full decat, non res, exhaust for the noise! which will out power any noise an induction can bring.

then a turbo muffler delete just because, well, I'm in the area when it comes to the the inlet pipe and airbox!


the Revo as above, looks gorgeous! but I'm not convinced with the OEM box.
 
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RO65ERS said:
I'm still undecided about intake side of things!
Yes, a smoother / larger turbo inlet pipe would be nice!
its just what air box am i going to use! I'm not overly bothered about noise from it, just a performance gain.

i want a full decat, non res, exhaust for the noise! which will out power any noise an induction can bring.

then a turbo muffler delete just because, well, I'm in the area when it comes to the the inlet pipe and airbox!


the Revo as above, looks gorgeous! but I'm not convinced with the OEM box.
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I would say 99.9% of people are not buying any one model for noise...its all about performance and looks under the hood
the VWR600 seems to be the choice for people pushing their cars performance as far as it will go....but its not the best 'looker' (and its VW :puke2:)....the Forge, Revo and Injen seem similar (Injen is also not a 'looker') as they grab air from the entire front of the grill....though there are no performance comparison figures that I have seen yet
APR are currently testing their Stage 3 turbo kit which will be using their carbonio intake and which is likely to be well over 500 bhp and they went to some trouble recently to compare it with an ideal situation to make sure it wasn't affecting performance
AWE tuning has a carbon box too....
am sure there's more than this out there.....lots to choose from....and it all depends on how far/what mods you want to ultimately do on your car
 
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