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VAG Admit Cheating Diesel Emmissions...
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illingworth22
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I clicked on the link from post 671 and it took me to VW page, when hit the link on there and I got a re direct to the VW Ireland page. I put my Reg No in and that was the message I got back!
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Haven't got a link by any chance have you? I followed through from that page but all I get is the German version of info.volkswagen, it asks for my VIN number but quotes it is only to check the NOx figures not CO2..
As stated, you need to remember the original NOx issue is separate from the newer CO2/MPG issue, which appears to include the latest Golf R amongst other petrol and (mostly) diesels.
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Interesting list. The 1.4 CoD engines in Leons and Golfs are listed.. but not Audi A3s?
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Yes EA189 is diesel only but as explained by Soulboy, the newer issue is about CO2 emissions being underestimated. Which affects not only diesel.
Hopefully they'll cover petrols as well. It's news to me that the 1.4 COD might be implicated. 109 CO2 did seem too good to be true for 150hp...
Though saying that, a Mini Cooper S cranks out 200hp and isn't much more CO2.
Though saying that, a Mini Cooper S cranks out 200hp and isn't much more CO2.
VW admits second illegal device in 85,000 Audi engines
Audi has conceded that the engines in a further 85,000 cars from the Volkswagen group contained an illegal defeat device, raising questions of how systematic the cheating was at the German carmaker.
The luxury car brand of the VW group said it estimated that correcting the engine management software used in Audi, VW and Porsche models would cost in the mid-double-digit millions of euros. It admitted that the software was in all three-litre V6 diesel engines manufactured by Audi and sold from 2009 until this year.
The admission further undermines VW’s insistence that the cheating in the two-month-old emissions scandal was limited to a rogue group of engineers. The German carmaker has already admitted installing a defeat device in 11m diesel cars worldwide.
It is also facing a third emissions problem after disclosing that 800,000 cars, including some with petrol engines, had been sold with the stated carbon dioxide levels as too low and the fuel efficiency too high.
More:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ee578522-91ee-11e5-9e3e-eb48769cecab.html#axzz3sM7vdQO4
Audi has conceded that the engines in a further 85,000 cars from the Volkswagen group contained an illegal defeat device, raising questions of how systematic the cheating was at the German carmaker.
The luxury car brand of the VW group said it estimated that correcting the engine management software used in Audi, VW and Porsche models would cost in the mid-double-digit millions of euros. It admitted that the software was in all three-litre V6 diesel engines manufactured by Audi and sold from 2009 until this year.
The admission further undermines VW’s insistence that the cheating in the two-month-old emissions scandal was limited to a rogue group of engineers. The German carmaker has already admitted installing a defeat device in 11m diesel cars worldwide.
It is also facing a third emissions problem after disclosing that 800,000 cars, including some with petrol engines, had been sold with the stated carbon dioxide levels as too low and the fuel efficiency too high.
More:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ee578522-91ee-11e5-9e3e-eb48769cecab.html#axzz3sM7vdQO4
Was only a matter of time.
I'm sure there's a lot more to come out over the weeks / months ahead.
I'm sure there's a lot more to come out over the weeks / months ahead.
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America is on target for the biggest car sales in 15 years so VW must be hurting. Nearly every other manufacturers sales are up in November. Be interesting to see how the numbers are here.
UK:
In November, 12,958 new VWs were registered, down from 16,196 in November 2014, SMMT figures show.
Volkswagen sales in October were down 10% from the same month in 2014.
Other VW Group marques were also hit, with Seat down 24%, Skoda down 11% and Audi down 4%.
Overall 3.8% more new cars were registered than for November last year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35005158
http://news.sky.com/story/1599796/vw-car-sales-down-20-percent-after-diesel-scandal
In November, 12,958 new VWs were registered, down from 16,196 in November 2014, SMMT figures show.
Volkswagen sales in October were down 10% from the same month in 2014.
Other VW Group marques were also hit, with Seat down 24%, Skoda down 11% and Audi down 4%.
Overall 3.8% more new cars were registered than for November last year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35005158
http://news.sky.com/story/1599796/vw-car-sales-down-20-percent-after-diesel-scandal
Sorry, it should read:
20% down in November 2015 compared to Nov 2014
10% down in October 2015 compared to Oct 2014
20% down in November 2015 compared to Nov 2014
10% down in October 2015 compared to Oct 2014
Interesting ...
'Volkswagen confirms emissions difference is 'tiny' and barely a few hundred vehicles in Spain affected
ONLY a few hundred Volkswagen models in Spain are likely to have been affected by the emissions-rigging scam, according to the most recent research carried out by the firm's headquarters in Germany.
Practically all of the cars and vans thought to have been fitted with software designed to mask CO2 readings are within legal boundaries, and the actual emissions have been found to be the same as those displayed in testing.
A mere 36,000 cars worldwide produce emissions exceeding those displayed compared to the estimated 800,000 suspected at first, and in all cases, the difference is very small, says the Volkswagen Group head office.
This was only found in nine models – a Polo, a Scirocco, two Jetta, two Golf and two Passat types, and which in total make up 0.5% of Volkswagen's annual production.
The initial negative impact on profits of over €2 billion estimated has yet to be confirmed, but is unlikely to be anywhere near this high.
And the difference in displayed and real emissions is so minor that it falls within the legally-permitted deviation and the models in question do not have to be withdrawn from the market, Volkswagen says.
It works out at around 0.1 to 0.2 litres extra per 100 kilometres.
Volkswagen affiliates Audi, Skoda and Seat have agreed to conduct similar investigations themselves in the next few weeks.'
http://www.thinkspain.com/news-spai...ign=newsletter_20151213&utm_content=news_3271
'Volkswagen confirms emissions difference is 'tiny' and barely a few hundred vehicles in Spain affected
Practically all of the cars and vans thought to have been fitted with software designed to mask CO2 readings are within legal boundaries, and the actual emissions have been found to be the same as those displayed in testing.
A mere 36,000 cars worldwide produce emissions exceeding those displayed compared to the estimated 800,000 suspected at first, and in all cases, the difference is very small, says the Volkswagen Group head office.
This was only found in nine models – a Polo, a Scirocco, two Jetta, two Golf and two Passat types, and which in total make up 0.5% of Volkswagen's annual production.
The initial negative impact on profits of over €2 billion estimated has yet to be confirmed, but is unlikely to be anywhere near this high.
And the difference in displayed and real emissions is so minor that it falls within the legally-permitted deviation and the models in question do not have to be withdrawn from the market, Volkswagen says.
It works out at around 0.1 to 0.2 litres extra per 100 kilometres.
Volkswagen affiliates Audi, Skoda and Seat have agreed to conduct similar investigations themselves in the next few weeks.'
http://www.thinkspain.com/news-spai...ign=newsletter_20151213&utm_content=news_3271
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Something isn't right with the material above. The NOx cheat software is not the same as the incorrect CO2 type classification. There was never any CO2 masking/cheat software - it was an incorrect type classification ....
Eliot Ness
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Overall Europe sales up for Audi: http://fourtitude.com/news/Audi_News_1/european-audi-sales-up-six-percent-in-november/
My wife received a letter from Audi today in connection with the work to be done to her A1 1.6TDI. The only problem is that she traded it in 7 weeks ago and now drives a VW 1.2 TSI Polo.
Not really a problem then is it?
Got the same letter. We're trading the wife's Q5 in for a S5 in March.
Audi can do whatever they want with the car then.
Got the same and my wife's car is due to change in April so I feel the same. Haven't tested any cars yet but I quite fancy an S3 sportback. We will be using her car less and she doesn't need so much space and she wants quattro.
