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It gets asked many times if it's ok to use asda fully synthetic oil in our PD tdi engines and normally the answer comes back as No because it doesn't meet or exceed vw spec ... But what about this VAG specific stuff they now sell ? Please say yes because I've just chucked a gallon in the avant




 
It looks like it meets the specs, but how much did you pay?
 
That's not £19 !

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Approved or not is a financial profit desicion , as to the quality difference , who knows ?
 
Yes its £25, £6 difference which in my opinion is nothing when it's between using the right (known) oil or the possibly wrong, unknown oil.
 
You cannot say that unless you commission a laboratory analysis between the two .

Are you aware of the price for submission for approval fees ?
 
For the sake of £6 I couldn't give a monkeys, I'd rather go with the known than the unknown, the dealers sell Quantum and for £6 it wouldn't even be a consideration for me to use an Asda oil, especially on a PD engine where the oil is so important. If you are willing to skimp £6 on oil what else would you be tight on.
 
The price is normally the same and is on roll back about every 6 months .

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It may be just as good or bad , we don't know who is good or bad unless someone privately commissions a laboratory comparison.

For standards we have VLS .

http://www.ukla-vls.org.uk
 
My point is for £6 the Quantum is a known quantity, it gets my money every time.

We are going round in circles now.
 
You are going around in circles , whilst I know my poo , you cannot quantify what you can't quantify .

Lab commission or shut up .
 
It's okay, you carry on being a tight **** and save your £6 a year on oil and I'll buy the proven stuff. Thats all
 
£12 a year cause I change every 6 months despite my miniscule mileage and Quantum LongLife III has never cost me as much as £26 from TPS either .

Proven because Quantum payed a huge submission fee as only the big players can afford the fee . Or no fee at all as VW own Quantum .

Hopefully you know who makes Quantum's oil .
 
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It's not a huge fee, £500 will get a full analysis........so stop making such a big issue that only mahoosive oil companies can afford full and final analysis. I do know my **** on the subject of oil analysis.
 
Are you talking one off labritory analysis for comparison or submission for analysis to gain a manufacturer spec approval ?
 
Dont move the goal posts. A full and final laboratory analysis is what you mentioned not manufacture approval. Send two samples and it will be compared FULLY.
 
Pointless argument now, moral is you are a cheapskate over £6
 
Gosh these two are a right pair
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I'm not moving any goal posts , if you actually read properly the previous posts you will see the huge fees I talk about are for submission for approval .

It's a financial profit desicion , pay a huge fee to submit a sample for testing to gain a manufacturer approval spec .

Upon approval the oil is mass produced with regular checks to maintain approval .

This approved oil is usually marketed at a higher price , now like I said , only the big players can afford to do this .

Smaller players who produce a like oil
( Tesco , Asda , Halfrauds etc ) that meets or exceeds the requirements of 504.00 507.00
will market their oil usually at a lower price.

Halfrauds do make me laugh at £42.99 for 5 L of non approved .

So profits -
approved , sell high but the huge approval submission fee eats into that profit .

Non approved - meets or exceeds the requirements of 504.00 507.00 , sell low , but have no approval fee eating into that profit .

That's why with gearbox oils there are very few with any manufacturer specs because of low volume of sales compared to engine oil thus profit . Many VAG have this stupid life fluid rubbish about their gearbox oil so the gearbox oil is easiest to find at the main stealers at an extortionate price when a like product from the likes of Fuchs will come under Fuchs recommendations , believe me just because it won't be approved you won't get an inferior gearbox oil from them .

So comparing a like product non approved V approved we don't know the difference unless someone commissions a labritory analysis which I'm kindly informed is around £500 .

I don't know if this is comparing both as new and or used oil analysis to give the fullest picture .

To prevent inferior oil products being sold we have VLS

http://www.ukla-vls.org.uk
 

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