F1 season 2015
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12 ways to know you’re a real F1 fan
1. You enthusiastically watch motor races that are Formula 1.
2. When people ask if you like Formula 1, you say ‘Yes. I do like Formula 1.’
3. You actually know what the F in ‘F1′ stands for.
4. When you see the French hotel chain Formula 1 you think, ‘Oh look, that has the same name as the motor racing series I really like, which is also called Formula 1′.
5. You refer to ‘The Chain’ by Fleetwood Mac as ‘The Chain by Fleetwood Mac which is also used as the music for the BBC Formula 1 coverage’.
6. You can’t drive through Birmingham without thinking a little bit about Nigel Mansell.
7. Even during the off season you refuse to move from in front of the TV on a Sunday afternoon in case some Formula 1 happens.
8. You don’t just know the surnames of the drivers in Formula 1, you also know their first names.
9. You only go on holiday to places like Monaco, Spa and a very boring industrial estate in Russia.
10. You cancelled your holiday to Germany just to be spiteful.
11. You often shout ‘FORMULA 1’ at the moment of sexual climax
12. You have an enormous back tattoo of Sebastien Bourdais.
1. You enthusiastically watch motor races that are Formula 1.
2. When people ask if you like Formula 1, you say ‘Yes. I do like Formula 1.’
3. You actually know what the F in ‘F1′ stands for.
4. When you see the French hotel chain Formula 1 you think, ‘Oh look, that has the same name as the motor racing series I really like, which is also called Formula 1′.
5. You refer to ‘The Chain’ by Fleetwood Mac as ‘The Chain by Fleetwood Mac which is also used as the music for the BBC Formula 1 coverage’.
6. You can’t drive through Birmingham without thinking a little bit about Nigel Mansell.
7. Even during the off season you refuse to move from in front of the TV on a Sunday afternoon in case some Formula 1 happens.
8. You don’t just know the surnames of the drivers in Formula 1, you also know their first names.
9. You only go on holiday to places like Monaco, Spa and a very boring industrial estate in Russia.
10. You cancelled your holiday to Germany just to be spiteful.
11. You often shout ‘FORMULA 1’ at the moment of sexual climax
12. You have an enormous back tattoo of Sebastien Bourdais.
Artimus
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Well it was Rosberg's to lose... And he lost it.
Once again I watched it on fast forward because I didn't want to fall asleep. Unless something changes drastically, it is my last season of following F1.
Plenty of other motorsport areas where I can get at least a bit excited during the race.
I'm fed up with one team dominating for years and others playing catch up. First it was Schumacher, later Vettel and now Hamilton. Same shi* different driver and car.
Plenty of other motorsport areas where I can get at least a bit excited during the race.
I'm fed up with one team dominating for years and others playing catch up. First it was Schumacher, later Vettel and now Hamilton. Same shi* different driver and car.
I wouldn't bank on itWas an ok race today. I didn't do so well so I probably back at bottom of the table againx
I'm almost as embarrassed as Alonso lol
It was an OK race. Good to see Verstappen doing his thing again. Would really like to see him in a Red Bull with a Ferrari engine next year.
Overtaking is difficult on that track, unless you are trying to overtake a Mclaren, as it's so narrow.
I really think F1 needs to rethink the actual race format. Two races with a reverse grid for the top 10 will provoke some better racing I am sure.
The BTCC touring cars have got it just right.
First race, grid positions determined by qualifying. Second race, grid positions determined by your fastest lap in the first race. Third race, random reverse grid drop of 6-10 places.
Three races too many for F1 but 2 would be better.
Overtaking is difficult on that track, unless you are trying to overtake a Mclaren, as it's so narrow.
I really think F1 needs to rethink the actual race format. Two races with a reverse grid for the top 10 will provoke some better racing I am sure.
The BTCC touring cars have got it just right.
First race, grid positions determined by qualifying. Second race, grid positions determined by your fastest lap in the first race. Third race, random reverse grid drop of 6-10 places.
Three races too many for F1 but 2 would be better.
Or free up the engineering and let them use two different engines v6t and v8 n/a Bring closed cockpits, move downforce to the middle of the car and get rid of front wings. That would help some overtaking!
Bring closed cockpits, move downforce to the middle of the car and get rid of front wings. That would help some overtaking!
Agree with you on Verstappen, have to say I thought he was over-hyped but so far he's been delivering apart from the odd mistake - but he's young and, surely, can only get better.
Personally, for F1, I'm not a massive fan of the fannying about with grid orders, it's a bit gimmicky IMHO. Also I don't think it would be that interesting in the context of F1 due to the issues staying close to the car in front. It works for touring cars because they aren't aero dominated plus there are weight penalties etc to even things out. In F1 it is up to the engineers to 'even' things out themselves and the cars are so massively aero dominated that it's difficult to get close to start with then impossible to stay with the car in front without destroying your tyres in short order.
Take away that aero however and it becomes easier to get close and overtake (at least in theory). This is an interesting read regarding ways to reduce aero in F1, which seems to make sense to me as a layman.
Yup, it's been known for a while that they should get rid of these stupid wings and move downforce towards the middle of the car. This would help overtaking massively. But there is still an issue where everything gets hot on a car following closely another one and also killing front tires. I vote for exhausts going up instead of behind the car. Like that
Artimus
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Did anyone else notice the graphics glitch when Kimi ran wide at one of the turns?
Can you say "green screen"
Can you say "green screen"
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What am I watching here?!
Is this just about the best race of the season? Slithering F1 cars!! That's what we need to make a race exciting!
Is this just about the best race of the season? Slithering F1 cars!! That's what we need to make a race exciting!
As we watch the ceremony on the podium, Sebastian Vettel shows himself to be a much bigger man than Nico Rosberg.
Great racing. Shame you weren't on the grid, Jojo.What am I watching here?!
Is this just about the best race of the season? Slithering F1 cars!! That's what we need to make a race exciting!
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You couldn't see all the wheel to wheel racing from the grid! I'm watching it via streaming on my lappy at work!
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Epic. Hammertime did it again. Next year will be Seb v Lewis. Nico a lowly third I feel. Too many mistakes under pressure.
It really does look like Nico is a choker when it really matters, doesn't it?
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I wish Jeff! I doubt I'm anywhere near the ability of an F1 driver! I'd love to have a go though hey!!
FWIW i think Rosberg was under orders not to beat Lewis, did you see the satisfying grin Toto Wolf gave Niki Lauda the moment Nico went wide. mission accomplished !!!
But the team gave Nico the chance to win by pitting him during the 3rd (I think) safety car, and he blew it.
Yes, and the moon landings were faked.
C'mon, Rosberg fluffed it when it mattered is what happened, plain and simple. Look at it another way, if it were team orders, what a convoluted way to give up the lead that risked putting him in danger. He'd make a bigger statement slowing down on the last lap just before the finish line.
He's a good driver but he lacks that ruthless streak or whatever it is that the very best have. I'd put money on Verstappen having it and will be amazed if he doesn't go on to win a world championship...
Awesome race and really fitting that Hamilton won the race that made him champion. There are no team orders in Mercedes other than Don't knock each other off. Rosberg cracked under the pressure, he fluffed the start and went backwards from there. Rosberg is the same to Mercedes as massa was to ferrari.
As for verstappen what a drive, he will be world champion one day if he gets the right car.
I didn't think I would see the mclarens actually racing this year.
Just a pity rossi didn't score a point.
As for verstappen what a drive, he will be world champion one day if he gets the right car.
I didn't think I would see the mclarens actually racing this year.
Just a pity rossi didn't score a point.
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Great race! There were clashes all the way through the field, which made it edge of the seat stuff for the most part.
Verstappen reminds me of a debutant Lewis Hamilton in 2007 ...he has the same raw talent, but lacks the tools to win a race. That'll change sooner rather than later, and he could dominate for years to come if he keeps his edge & learns to be more patient with those around him.
Verstappen reminds me of a debutant Lewis Hamilton in 2007 ...he has the same raw talent, but lacks the tools to win a race. That'll change sooner rather than later, and he could dominate for years to come if he keeps his edge & learns to be more patient with those around him.
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What a great race, really enjoyed it and it was actually one that kept me interested all the way through rather than forwarding through it!!
Well done Hamilton, and excellent result and congrats on the 3rd World Title.
Well done Hamilton, and excellent result and congrats on the 3rd World Title.
There is a difference between Hamilton and Rosberg and it's that determination to win or loose at all cost: Suzuka and Austin and Spa demonstrated this - FOR ME - in that Hamilton, tsk, is prepared to loose ALL rather than yield, even, if I may say so run someone else off the track.... oops, sorry, didn't mean to and all that.
As Montoya said post race, Hamilton "had to do what he had to do". And that attitude was always the difference between Senna and Prost; oh yes it was.
This weekend I'd like to see a banzai move from Rosberg on Hamilton with Hamilton then moaning to the 'BRITISH' press that "he said he did it on purpose" like Hamilton said in Spa, thou no one else heard the same statement for Rosberg...
And don't tell me I don't like Hamilton 'cos I already know that...
As Montoya said post race, Hamilton "had to do what he had to do". And that attitude was always the difference between Senna and Prost; oh yes it was.
This weekend I'd like to see a banzai move from Rosberg on Hamilton with Hamilton then moaning to the 'BRITISH' press that "he said he did it on purpose" like Hamilton said in Spa, thou no one else heard the same statement for Rosberg...
And don't tell me I don't like Hamilton 'cos I already know that...
The last time Rosberg tried a daring move on Hamilton he punctured his rear tyre at spa. I don't think rosberg has that last 2% that is the difference between a great driver and a world champion. Rosberg cracks under pressure, seen several times where he has made mistakes that have cost him races.
Hamilton came from a family with very little, and he had to fight a lot harder to win in Karting and the lower classes. Rosberg had everything he wanted.
That determination and desire is something rosberg doesn't have in the same way Hamilton has.
Hamilton came from a family with very little, and he had to fight a lot harder to win in Karting and the lower classes. Rosberg had everything he wanted.
That determination and desire is something rosberg doesn't have in the same way Hamilton has.
I agree and think Rosberg like Prost and as did Webber go endurance racing where getting to the end is more important: I'd put my own money on Rosberg in a 24-hour race but wouldn't even put your money on Hamilton...
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Hamilton is a racer. Rosberg isn't. Hamilton is instinctive. Rosberg isn't. Hamilton is ruthless. Rosberg isn't.
Next season it will be the same but with Vettle taking Rosberg's place. We'll see the last 7 years World Champions go at it head to head next season and I can't see Rosberg getting a look in.
Put young Max in a Merc and Hamilton will be up against himself 7 years ago. Now that would make it an interesting season.
Next season it will be the same but with Vettle taking Rosberg's place. We'll see the last 7 years World Champions go at it head to head next season and I can't see Rosberg getting a look in.
Put young Max in a Merc and Hamilton will be up against himself 7 years ago. Now that would make it an interesting season.
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Rosberg did try the 'ruthless' route last year, taking Hamilton out on the 2nd lap in the Belgian GP at Spa. However, it backfired against him, and when the finger of blame was pointed at him by the team, fans and commentators etc. he was totally uncomfortable with the situation. That was his downfall moment, he never recovered from that in my opinion, and it also made Lewis a stronger driver from then onwards.
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I don't think that was him being ruthless. I think that was him making a mistake and an error of judgement. What it did prove was that he isn't up to the challenge of wheel to wheel racing. He doesn't know when to pull back that tiny bit to keep the racing going, he lost his bottle, as you said. Hamilton can talk the talk and walk the walk. Rosberg can talk the talk but can't yet crawl.
I really wish he could as it would result in better racing as it would be 3 top drivers battling it out. At the moment we have Hamilton battling for ever inch of the track and Vettle would do the same. With both doing this next year with Ferrari's newer and faster car I feel Rosberg will be well out his depth.
It was mentioned above about Endurance Racing. Rosberg would suit that type of racing, Hamilton/Vettle would get bored.
I really wish he could as it would result in better racing as it would be 3 top drivers battling it out. At the moment we have Hamilton battling for ever inch of the track and Vettle would do the same. With both doing this next year with Ferrari's newer and faster car I feel Rosberg will be well out his depth.
It was mentioned above about Endurance Racing. Rosberg would suit that type of racing, Hamilton/Vettle would get bored.
It's ok for you guys RS3copilot is a mega Hamilton fan so I have to tread carefully when support someone else and as I've just said to Ghost with the start time being as it is tonight I'm not sure whether I'll be eating off my plate or off my t-shirt, guess I'll know by about lap two...
Enjoy the race whatever the outcome cos it doesn't really matter as for sure it'll get dark tonight and brighter tomorrow...
Enjoy the race whatever the outcome cos it doesn't really matter as for sure it'll get dark tonight and brighter tomorrow...
100% Scottyg, and here's a forgotten but oh so familiar example where being sensible and losing one place could at least get you some points which in this case didn't:
