VAG Admit Cheating Diesel Emmissions...

WarwickL said:
Not if authorities make it part of annual registration - already murmurings here in AU that might be the aim
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UK have already confirmed this will not happen.

Still don't understand the panic about residuals. Sold mine on Saturday to WBAC and no reduction made.
I am sure they know a lot more about residuals than we do , and would not give me a penny too much....
 
I tried to PX mine this week for a Merc and the dealer couldn't get any interest from Audi contacts as they are becoming overwhelmed with stock. My car shouldn't be affected but the fallout from falling sales is making mine difficult to shift.
 
In a car park last week somebody shouted across to me "Have you had your recall yet?!", to which I was able to reply that my A3 has a petrol engine. Some people seem to be way ahead of the actual state of play in this caper.
 
Fleet & business sales account for the vast majority of cars sold in the UK.

The number of fleet managers that have now put on hold or stopped VW Group products is more than significant.
 
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Not really, we deal with the 3 largest leasing companies in the UK, this is what they have told us!

It may well be a temporary hold, but as things stand at the moment, no new orders for VW group diesels are being put through by a number of fleet managers.

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/man...for-uk-fleet-market-from-vw-emissions-scandal
http://www.motortrader.com/motor-tr...ets-ponder-fall-volkswagen-emissions-scandal/
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/01/uk-volkswagen-emissions-idUKKCN0RU15F20151001

Right now the effect is being felt in Europe, because of diesel sales, but not so much in China, for example, where diesel car sales are much lower. But it's not all good news in that market anyway, as it was already experiencing a slowdown.

China contributed 65% of VW's profit in 2014 .
http://www.wsj.com/articles/volkswagens-other-problem-is-made-in-china-1443418096
 
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gamegenie said:
Audi might as well faze our TDI diesel with the E-tron hybrid.
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<tongue firmly in cheek>
till you need to do a journey over 31 miles and it reverts to running on the 1.4tfsi cod engine...except its emissions will be higher than a regular 1.4tfsi because it has to carry round the weight of the batteries and electric motor(s). the 2.0tdi has better mpg than that, the 1.6tdi has better mpg and lower CO2...but i guess these days it more about low NOx and a good PR agent :)
 
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veeeight said:
Not really, we deal with the 3 largest leasing companies in the UK, this is what they have told us!

It may well be a temporary hold, but as things stand at the moment, no new orders for VW group diesels are being put through by a number of fleet managers.

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/man...for-uk-fleet-market-from-vw-emissions-scandal
http://www.motortrader.com/motor-tr...ets-ponder-fall-volkswagen-emissions-scandal/
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/01/uk-volkswagen-emissions-idUKKCN0RU15F20151001

Right now the effect is being felt in Europe, because of diesel sales, but not so much in China, for example, where diesel car sales are much lower. But it's not all good news in that market anyway, as it was already experiencing a slowdown.

China contributed 65% of VW's profit in 2014 .
http://www.wsj.com/articles/volkswagens-other-problem-is-made-in-china-1443418096
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Sorry, that was meant as a reply to a totally different post and I hadn't realised there was a whole other page of posts on here since then!
 
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Thanks for links to car check pages.

Checked my previous 1.6tdi golf, which was replaced by a 2.0tdi 140 a3 black edition. Both these flagged up problems, but not the current a3 sportback with newer 2.0 150 engine.
 
wideboybloke said:
In a car park last week somebody shouted across to me "Have you had your recall yet?!", to which I was able to reply that my A3 has a petrol engine. Some people seem to be way ahead of the actual state of play in this caper.
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Were they taking the P or was it out of interest because they had a diesel ?
 
I believe none of the 8v a3's are effected... I have a 2013 April 1 6tdi.. and it's not effected? Could this mean that none of the 8v are effected..?
 
Euro 4 and Euro 6 engines are not affected, its only the Euro 5 engines that need updating.
 
Several articles I have read in recent car magazines have indicated that quite a number of EU6 engines from various manufacturers, when tested actually on the road by UK testers, failed to meet the EU6 requirements. As I have also said many times, I wonder how many other vehicles such as lorries, buses and coaches meet the EU6 requirements. Everyone, and the press in particular, seem to be focussed on cars and seem to be ignoring every thing else. The other thing is that whilst diesel engines are producing higher level of NOx they are still produces quite a bit less of the 'Global Warming' CO2. It seems that we may possibly save some lives by reducing NOx level only for the plant to be ruined by CO2.
 
And it's not just Volkswagen. When tested quite a number of other manufactures cars fail to meet emission standards as well and some by quite a bit more than VWs. It's just the the US decided to target VW rather than any one else.
 
Or maybe the growth of market share in the US ?
 
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h5djr said:
It seems that we may possibly save some lives by reducing NOx level only for the plant to be ruined by CO2.
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I'd rather wipe out the people - there's loads of them.
Only one planet - well 'til we get to Mars and sort that out with some tarmac.
 
It would also be interesting to compare the CO2 output of US cars to those made in Europe. At a guess it would be much higher, especially as they tend to use large petrol engines.
 
I may be wrong but am sure I read somewhere diesels were growing I sakes in the US with German makes pushing them...
 
Pretty sure my engine isn't affected, although just been on the Audi UK Site to doublecheck.
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Yep, same here. Haven't worried so far (I'm still not worried now) but I am curious and expect my March 2014 2.0 tdi to be one of the many. When the sites working again I'm sure we'll find out for sure?
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Pretty sure my engine isn't affected, although just been on the Audi UK Site to doublecheck.
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The whole thing has been dealt with very poorly IMO
 
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At least the man at the top took responsibility and stepped down straight away....Sepp Blatter anyone!!

The handling of this kind of situation was never going to be swift, made worse by media bloodhounds. Yes you and I deserve answers and the VW group needs to offer them as quickly as is possible but better that they make sure their correct.

How too best fuel our cars is a question we are far from answering and our current methods, including diesel will be with us for a few years yet I think
 
ACWKGYTO said:
The whole thing has been dealt with very poorly IMO
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Actually, if anything I think it's been dealt with pretty well so far.

1. CEO Resigning to be replaced by well respected Porsche boss.
2. Sacking of senior techs and execs involved in scandal.
3. Announcing co-operation with US Gov and holding fire on 2016 Diesel releases until governance is assured
4. Setting up vehicle database for consumers to check whether their vehicle is affected through VIN
5. Co-ordinating recall plan.

Had this been Renault, you'd be looking at a collapsed company right now, not least because of their market cap.
 
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VW were questioned about this years ago. Did nothing. The current situation was forced on them by their own deceit.

New Euro 6 engines now reported to be involved.

Current actions are all knee jerk and poorly handled. Locally the dealers aren't able to share anything (either they don't know or have been told to keep quiet).

Local support numbers and sites regularly changed, offline.
 
illingworth22 said:
Except for the Trucking Industry.... 26 million in 2006!
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and a number of large truck manufacturers were 'done' a while back for a similar cheat.

VW are arrogant, deceitful fraudsters.

I've really enjoyed both my VWs (GTI and R) despite mechatronic replacements and other issues.

Taking ownership of my Audi S3 in a few weeks

However, these fools have ruined the brand.
 
WarwickL said:
and a number of large truck manufacturers were 'done' a while back for a similar cheat.

VW are arrogant, deceitful fraudsters.

I've really enjoyed both my VWs (GTI and R) despite mechatronic replacements and other issues.

Taking ownership of my Audi S3 in a few weeks

However, these fools have ruined the brand.
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Me too, and I agree, but don't be naive and think this hasn't happened with other marques too. The only difference here is VW have been caught out. Furthermore, they got caught for the same thing in the 70's, nevermind a few years ago..

This might improve quality, or it might bury them like Saab, we will see.
 
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Not naive, aware that this goes much further than VW. Indeed, Bosch is implicated.

However, VW knew about this years ago and were questioned by the EPA. They were ****** minded and continued aggressively selling into markets.

Twin charge mess

7 speed DSG mess

Yet, lead execs still say they can't believe this has happened.

Seriously..

Edit - I'm a VW fan, even a zealot perhaps. I'm buying another DSG vehicle (my third) fulling expecting a mech replacement within warranty. Knowing the other failings it has (that VW and Audi ignore).

Imagine how VW owners feel that aren't zealots like myself.
 
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