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Been busted by the cops for speeding.

:busted cop:

0724 hours in a sleepy village.
Lovely sunny day, no traffic, no people, no movement except.....

1 lousy bike cop stood stock still on the side of the road with a Scamera in his hand.

35mph in a 30mph.

I'm hoping I'm going to receive an offer on a "Speed Course" - or whatever the official title is.

Apparently, you are not allowed to "answer back" or express a point of view.
That gets you booted off the course - and the points received.
I think I'm going to find the Course difficult

:blahblah1:
 
The course isn't as regimented as you think.....did mine a couple of months ago. Actually quite informative.
 
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Snibo said:
Been busted by the cops for speeding.

:busted cop:

0724 hours in a sleepy village.
Lovely sunny day, no traffic, no people, no movement except.....

1 lousy bike cop stood stock still on the side of the road with a Scamera in his hand.

35mph in a 30mph.

I'm hoping I'm going to receive an offer on a "Speed Course" - or whatever the official title is.

Apparently, you are not allowed to "answer back" or express a point of view.
That gets you booted off the course - and the points received.
I think I'm going to find the Course difficult

:blahblah1:
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What county? Normally they will give you 10% of the speed limit +2mph. So nicking you doing 35mph is really mean!

Check the Police counties website and check the rules. The Police aren't always right!!

If you haven't done a Speed awareness course in the last 3 years you will be offered one.

I got done for doing 36mph in a 30!
 
Chap at my works got caught the other week, he said he chose to do the course and pay the £80 fine. But if you get caught again with in the next 3 years you will get 6 points not just the 3!
 
Codlot said:
Chap at my works got caught the other week, he said he chose to do the course and pay the £80 fine. But if you get caught again with in the next 3 years you will get 6 points not just the 3!
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Is that a new thing as I did the course just under 3 years ago and got done for 36 in a 30 a few months ago, standard points and fine.

TX.
 
hmmmm wonder why he said that then ?. I'll ask him tomorrow to clarify. My bad for miss info if that is wrong ?
 
For 35 in a 30 I'd definatley ask to take it to court, I drive many thousand miles a year for work and have picked up various minor speed infringements, I find that in 99.9% of cases of you opt for court they don't bother, courts are clogged up as they are let alone having someone barley speeding taking up space
 
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What county? Normally they will give you 10% of the speed limit +2mph. So nicking you doing 35mph is really mean!
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Carmarthenshire - They really DESPISE Speeders.
I've never seen so many camera vans, fixed cameras, cameras that flash your speed back at you (turning red if you exceed 30mph), police cars "waiting" in side roads - and now the lousy cop and his bike !!


No, haven't done a Speed Course before - was only fine and points in the "old days" when I was caught.


Mentioned it at work and it's amazing how many of us "hardened Crims" are out there - and how many have already been on the course for doing 35+ in a 30mph.

The Police must be so proud of their successful Prosecution Statistics.
 
This subject boils my **** like no other as we are cash cow victims .

A speedo has 10 mph differences a few cm's apart , so dam easy to speed unless you want to look at it all the time and not the road and crash .

So why are our speedos up to 160 mph , having them at 80 mph max would be much easier to read and totally accurate , the answer , they want us to speed , to make some money .
 
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Any chance of getting out of due to hand held camera? Any slight hand movement would alter readings a fair bit.
 
Snibo said:
Carmarthenshire - They really DESPISE Speeders.
I've never seen so many camera vans, fixed cameras, cameras that flash your speed back at you (turning red if you exceed 30mph), police cars "waiting" in side roads - and now the lousy cop and his bike !!


No, haven't done a Speed Course before - was only fine and points in the "old days" when I was caught.


Mentioned it at work and it's amazing how many of us "hardened Crims" are out there - and how many have already been on the course for doing 35+ in a 30mph.

The Police must be so proud of their successful Prosecution Statistics.
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It looks like 35mph in a 30 is worthy of 3 points!
http://www.speedlimit.org.uk/faq.html

But like a few people have said you could challenge it ....Handheld camera, inaccurate...etc... The copper on the bike will have to attend court. If you lose you will have police costs, court costs etc...extra points which will push up your insurance.
Is it worth all the hassle for £80 or so...and a few hours with a couple of advanced driving instructors??

One tip if you go on the course don't debate with them and ask questions. This way the course will finish quicker and you will get home earlier. But there will always be one on the course who will.....and the anorak driving instructors love it!!
 
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Yes, the fine / points start at 35mph upwards.
Handy that I was doing "exactly" 35mph for him ?!

I don't mind being caught (well, maybe a little bit) - 'tis part and parcel of daily driving and I'm lucky enough not to have been caught doing a lot worse really - edited to add motorway speeds as opposed to anything else.

What I do mind is when they "hide" round the corner and on the downhill stretch of that road.
I was probably doing 29mph (honest Guv) on the flat bit and then "rolled" that extra 6mph going down the hill !!

I daren't challenge in court - I'd end up being "sent down" for 6 months as I wouldn't be able to stop myself from arguing with them.

Just hope that I am offered the Course - although seems to be standard judging by the number of people in work that have already attended.

Hopefully, this is the last of my 3 bits of Bad Luck with this car - although even I really can't blame Audi for this one !!
 
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So a multi geared racing or mountain bike can exceed 35 mph , how does that work ?
 
Snibo said:
Been busted by the cops for speeding.

:busted cop:

0724 hours in a sleepy village.
Lovely sunny day, no traffic, no people, no movement except.....

1 lousy bike cop stood stock still on the side of the road with a Scamera in his hand.

35mph in a 30mph.

I'm hoping I'm going to receive an offer on a "Speed Course" - or whatever the official title is.

Apparently, you are not allowed to "answer back" or express a point of view.
That gets you booted off the course - and the points received.
I think I'm going to find the Course difficult

:blahblah1:
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Done the course, relax you might enjoy it
 
Gazwould said:
So a multi geared racing or mountain bike can exceed 35 mph , how does that work ?
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I had a teacher at school that got handed a ticket by a police man for speeding on his mountain bike!
 
Wouldn't worry about the course. Did one in January and all was fine, actually quite enjoyed it! It's rather informative and learnt a few things I didn't know! (which will help to not get caught again!)The guy who ran the course was actually quite engaging and encouraged people's opinions, although I guess it's luck of the draw there!
 
I enjoyed it but you do need to toe the line, any rudeness or lateness and you wont get your points wiped !
 
If you are speeding you are speeding.

A village probably has a 30mph restriction due to the likelihood of children being in the vicinity/playing near to the road. Are the schools back now? If so, then there may be kids on their way at that time, or at least up and about.

Sounds like it's an area you know, so there should be no excuse there.
5mph can make a difference when a child runs out in front of you.
Take it on the chin.
 
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I did the course (which wasn't too bad tbh) doing 34mph in a 30 zone in Chester (Cheshire constabulary).
It's up to the individual forces what level they prosecute at.

The worrying one is all the 20 mph limits they have imposed (overnight) on all but major roads where I live.
34 mph is an automatic summons and treated same as doing 96mph of the motorway.
 
These so called "Speed Awareness" courses were only introduced when the Government decided not to allow the local camera partnerships to keep the money from speeding fines. As a way of replacing this income source the speed awareness courses came in to being. The one time I was caught since they have been introduced, doing 35mph on an open stretch of road with no houses or junctions, I was offered attendance rather than 3 points I chose the 3 points as I don't want to be party to funding the upkeep of existing or provision of further cameras.
 
I don't mind cameras in towns, high streets etc. I'll do between 30 to 34mph.

What really ****s me off are cameras on motorways. The M25 is FULL of them now - some of them only turn on when the VSL (Variable Speed Limit) is enabled, others - HADEC 3's - are on ALL the time.

A friend of mine got a letter 2 weeks after he went on an M25 stretch in Surrey for doing 75mph in a 70mph zone.

Scary. 75mph is the minimum speed I'd tend to do on a motorway!
 
As much as I would like to go creep above the speed limit on the M25 (when it is clear at midnight etc) I think the multitude of cameras and variable speed limits on the "car park" have gone a long way to making traffic flow far better...IMHO.

What is far worse, especially on the 4 lane sections is the numbber of lane 3 and lane 4 hoggers.

I wonder how many penalty notices have been issued for lane hogging since the new laws were introduced, probably less than the number for using mobile phones I expect.
 
Gazwould said:
So why are our speedos up to 160 mph , having them at 80 mph max would be much easier to read and totally accurate , the answer , they want us to speed , to make some money .
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This is like saying why are our cars capable of reaching 160mph lol. Don't get me wrong, I am also of the belief that we are being manipulated and exploited as cash cows, it really irritates me!

I believe in having speed deterrents (cameras or whatever) that are clearly displayed and advertised, but only in accident black-spots where many accidents have occurred due to high speed historically, or areas that are likely to be accident prone if people speed. This would actually save lives instead of lining the governments pockets! I don't mind speed cameras around school areas etc but the ****** m25 is so annoying, and my particular bugbear is the mobile ones that purposely hide so u can't see them - the idea is to deter people from speeding, not catch people out!
 
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One of the problems with speed cameras is that as soon as a drivers sees one on go the brakes causing a danger to other road users, especially if they are driving in a car with no 'speed camera warning system'

I completely agree about the M25. I have joined it at junction 21a on a Saturday morning and driven almost the whole way to junction 16 (m40) in lanes 1 and 2 because lanes 3 or 4 and slow moving if not stopped. Roll on October when I shall again be driving on German autobahns for a couple of weeks.
 
I must have been very lucky to be offered a speed awareness course after being caught doing 39 in a 30 zone. This was in Hampshire (on a Friday night on my way home from work - great start to the week end) 2 years ago. I didn't offer any mitigating explanation, although I thought afterwards that I could have done so. I just let the police do what they had to do so that I could get home, about 2 minutes drive away.

The circumstances were that it was dusk and I had just turned into the road and was going up the gears, so gathering speed. I saw high vis jackets or vests up ahead and thought it was the local running club. However, they don't do their runs on Friday nights, so I wondered whether it was workmen trimming the trees (although why would they be doing that at dusk?). This thought process took a second or two, by which time I had reached the high vis clad figures, one of whom was a large copper directing me into a side road where I was dealt with. So the distraction caused me to take my eye off the speedo, I was building up speed and I didn't check it. If I had offered that explanation at the time, I doubt it would have made any difference as I got off with the speed awareness option. As others have said, the course was quite informative, but the woman running it was SO patronising. She seemed to be on some sort of power trip.
 
Gulp. Once bitten, twice shy. The road in question was made a 30 limit comparatively recently and the police are there fairly frequently, so I always look out for the high vis vests up ahead before I build up any speed. At least by wearing the high vis gear they're not being sneaky.
 
wideboybloke said:
I must have been very lucky to be offered a speed awareness course after being caught doing 39 in a 30 zone. This was in Hampshire (on a Friday night on my way home from work - great start to the week end) 2 years ago. I didn't offer any mitigating explanation, although I thought afterwards that I could have done so. I just let the police do what they had to do so that I could get home, about 2 minutes drive away.

The circumstances were that it was dusk and I had just turned into the road and was going up the gears, so gathering speed. I saw high vis jackets or vests up ahead and thought it was the local running club. However, they don't do their runs on Friday nights, so I wondered whether it was workmen trimming the trees (although why would they be doing that at dusk?). This thought process took a second or two, by which time I had reached the high vis clad figures, one of whom was a large copper directing me into a side road where I was dealt with. So the distraction caused me to take my eye off the speedo, I was building up speed and I didn't check it. If I had offered that explanation at the time, I doubt it would have made any difference as I got off with the speed awareness option. As others have said, the course was quite informative, but the woman running it was SO patronising. She seemed to be on some sort of power trip.
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I can imagine that !

Experience tells us to drive according to conditions , type of road , visability .

Yet a curved bit of road with a single narrow grass verge and pavement on one side next to a housing estate and a clearly laid out dual carriageway bypass with a double barrier central reservation can carry the same limit of 50 !

No guesses for where peeps are getting caught .

Still they're all stuffed in the future when cars will be driving themselves precisely at the speed limit .
 
With cameras - if the speed you are doing is so dangerous to public safety at the time , exactly what is achieved by getting a fine in the post weeks later .? Apart from revenue raising. ...
And for the old chestnut of do you know how an extra 5km/h adds to your stopping distance ...really are all drivers so stupid , that when you approach a busy town centre or school zone you don't back off a bit .

Plenty of academics down under who spout that one ...5 km/h over the speed limit and the world as we know it will end ...and by the way I mean in 100km/h zones not 40km/h school zones
 
There's a bit of controversy locally at the moment as a road that has always been a 40 limit has had the signs removed. There are street lights every 200 yards, so it is now effectively a 30 limit but there are no warning signs for the unobservant or for locals who have only ever known it as a 40 zone. It is the sort of road on which it is difficult to limit speed to 40, let alone 30. It's a through road on the edge of town, dead straight and fairly wide, with houses on either side but big old houses set well apart and with drives that don't require anybody to reverse out on to the road. I only found out about it from a local chat forum so we're waiting to see who gets the first speeding ticket!
 
An accident black spot near me was moaned about for 15 years , it comprised of a 60 mph with 3 staggered junctions .

Riding my mountain bike along it there was different car debris every few weeks at a particular junction .

They eventually reduced it to 40 mph , but it took 15 years , road safety, my **** .
 
In Peterborough the main dual carriageway road from the A1 has just been upgraded to three lanes, new concrete centre barriers etc and guess what, a new 60mph limit and average speed cameras. When the road returns to two lanes after a couple of miles the speed limit goes back to 70. Where is the sense in that, apart from revenue earning.
 
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In Peterborough the main dual carriageway road from the A1 has just been upgraded to three lanes, new concrete centre barriers etc and guess what, a new 60mph limit and average speed cameras. When the road returns to two lanes after a couple of miles the speed limit goes back to 70. Where is the sense in that, apart from revenue earning.
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To fool you into thinking it's 70mph...and then robbing you of your hard earned dosh!

The same reason the M1 smart motorway near Luton only kicks in when there isn't congestion and they limit it to 60mph. When it is congested they close off lane 1!
 
h5djr said:
In Peterborough the main dual carriageway road from the A1 has just been upgraded to three lanes, new concrete centre barriers etc and guess what, a new 60mph limit and average speed cameras. When the road returns to two lanes after a couple of miles the speed limit goes back to 70. Where is the sense in that, apart from revenue earning.
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We have the same where I live! For a short section of what is previously a 70mph A road it changes as you mention and has average cameras set at 60! Nothing but a cash cow!
 
h5djr said:
In Peterborough the main dual carriageway road from the A1 has just been upgraded to three lanes, new concrete centre barriers etc and guess what, a new 60mph limit and average speed cameras. When the road returns to two lanes after a couple of miles the speed limit goes back to 70. Where is the sense in that, apart from revenue earning.
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I've seen that in a few places now - more often these days than in recent memory. Sudden speed limit drops, followed by a speed camera, then back up to 70mph again.
 
wideboybloke said:
There's a bit of controversy locally at the moment as a road that has always been a 40 limit has had the signs removed. There are street lights every 200 yards, so it is now effectively a 30 limit but there are no warning signs for the unobservant or for locals who have only ever known it as a 40 zone. It is the sort of road on which it is difficult to limit speed to 40, let alone 30. It's a through road on the edge of town, dead straight and fairly wide, with houses on either side but big old houses set well apart and with drives that don't require anybody to reverse out on to the road. I only found out about it from a local chat forum so we're waiting to see who gets the first speeding ticket!
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I know that road! I used to wait for the 40 sign after the rumble strip but had a weird feeling the sign was not there any more, sure enough on way back they had just removed the 40 signs just leaving it as an implicit 30. Haven't seen any speed traps on it yet, but plenty of people still treating it as a 40.
 
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