New 2015 RS3!!!

Snake did you adjust the suspension settings in individual mode? If so it must have mag. If all you did was adjust the car's overall setting as Foxtrot says then it could be manual suspension.


Damn - wish I had paid more attention now.
This was my 1st go in an A3 / S3 / RS3 of any kind hence why I am not fully up to speed with the menu.

It was under car settings.
There were 4 options.
Steering was one.
Engine was another.
Then two other sub headings, one of whicih I thought was suspension.

In each of the 4 catergories you could select dynamic / auto / comfort.
 
My demo had standard suspension but it also still had the options to change under drive select which confused the sales guy. Changing it made no difference though.

Apparently mag ride also has a separate button near the parking break (according to the sales guy).

I need to check if it is the same on my S3 (options in Drive select even though there is no adjustable suspension).
 
My demo had standard suspension but it also still had the options to change under drive select which confused the sales guy. Changing it made no difference though.

Apparently mag ride also has a separate button near the parking break (according to the sales guy).

I need to check if it is the same on my S3 (options in Drive select even though there is no adjustable suspension).


Can you list what the 4 settings are in the menu ?
I may then be able to identify which I thought was suspension.
Thanks !
 
Won't be able to until later, sure another 8V owner will respond with a screenshot...
 
Sorry it was t'other forum.... Here it is...two drives:

Car spec: Mythos black with alu pack, SS seats, mag ride, standard exhaust.

Appearance in the flesh: black not the best colour IMHO but the car looks very solid and well finished - quality item! Not a hot rod hot hatch, more a proper shrunken RS. A car for grown-ups, not like a Honda, Renault or Ford. Or Merc A class for that matter.

Seats and interior: grey SS seats superb, very supportive and plenty of headroom for my lankiness. Mono pur nice but not worth paying extra for. All controls very well weighted and everything felt like it was from a bigger more expensive car.

Steering pinpoint accurate in comfort mode but a bit too pointy for my liking in dynamic but I'll probably get used to it. I found I was taking a few bites at corners before I got it just right, wheras comfort mode was just a bit more relaxed and smoother. Feedback was fine and not too much kick or rumble from bumps - a nice car to cruise in - just enough isolation from the bad bits of the road without taking away the clues about what's going on on the surface of the road. Just how I like steering feel to be: a accurate but not coarse/rough.

Ride: a total revelation. Ok it's no limo but ****** hell it rides well! This is what amazed me most about the car. It's fabulously well damped, always in control of its wheels and body but it's actually quite comfortable. In dynamic mode it just sharpens up a bit and you can feel the smaller bumps a bit more, but even small potholes didn't crash and bang. Remarkable. 10/10. Better controlled but yet more comfortable than my

B7 RS4 and miles more comfortable than wifey's Golf 6 GTI which rides like a plank. If you've not specced mag ride: do it!

Engine: smoother than I'd expected but with some real attitude when it gets going. It's an angry thing when pushed, but smooth and creamy when not. The exhaust made all the right noises, a growing fizzy snarl at the top and some pops and bangs on over-run. Just a bit too quiet though. Glad I specced the sports exhaust. Standard is a lovely noise but too quiet. Lots of torque everywhere as you'd expect. This one was of course brand new and should open up a lot with some miles but it felt so smooth and unburstable
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Not a grumble when I floored it at 7th at about 30mph (sorry - but I had to test it!)

Performance: a lot faster than it felt. It's that smoothness again. I'm used to my RS4 which is a bit more raw and less insulated so every time I checked the speedo I was doing 20mph more than I thought I was. Got told off many times by the dealer for going too fast! Absolutely towering, crushing performance, definitely faster than the RS4, but so civilised and slightly insulated it feels like it's not trying. That's what I want from a car but it won't suit everyone. I fulled out of a junction and floored it, some lag, it certainly shifted but didn't exactly go ballistic, then I noticed I was against the limiter and I was in manual and had started off in 2nd. Quite a take-off for starting in 2nd though! Later I did it properly in S mode and it took off like someone had picked up the car and thrown it - no wheel spin, weave or lurching, just 0-stupid in no time.
Brakes I couldn't test properly (wife...) but they were certainly firm and progressive and not grabby.

What else....? Downshifts smooth but not as instant as I'd like when I use the paddles. It seems to hesitate a bit before deciding to shift down after I've floored it, whether in S or M. I had the engine/transmission in dynamic all the time.




Drove my second RS3 demonstrator on Friday. Bedford Audi, Sepang, alu pack, silver SS Seats, standard exhaust, mag ride, 255 tyres.

Great colour
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Classy and handsome and not too eye-catching, like the car. Just how an Audi should be.

Alu pack nasty on any colour, even more glad I'm going for standard body colour trim. They had a couple of other cars, a 4 something and a 5 something, both in Sepang but with the gloss black pack. Didn't like it. Blue and black don't work together for me. Each to his/her own. Likewise the silver seats; no thanks. If they want to do a different colour to black, then I'd rather see light tan or dark red.

Exhaust too quiet. Grey wheels look nice though. Still happy with my choice of basic silver ones as I can't live with diamond cut - too easy to damage, expensive to fix and they look even more dated than the plain rotors.

The roads were quite different to my first drive at Cambridge. Lots of big roundabouts and dual carriageways. This exposed an interesting handling characteristic (well, to me anyway...) Modern road designers have got this habit of designing things to slow you down all the time, like putting hedges and other obstructions so that you can't see whether something is coming round a roundabout have to slow right down until you can see, only at the last possible few yards before the junction. Another of their tricks is to build a bad camber on the exit of roundabouts. As you leave the roundabout, it always curves sharply left, and where you'd really like to have a bank to the curve, they camber it the wrong way so that you 'fall off' towards the outside of the bend, slowing you down. ********.

So what did the RS3 make of this? It behaved like a road designer's wet dream. As you accelerate out of the roundabout and accelerate to pass the car on the inside lane, the car keeps all four corners rigid, rides up the camber and then as the camber falls away, the car tips over the crown of the road and 'falls' towards the outside of the bend. So it's flat and simply follows the camber. The sensation is like you've tipped over and rolling a lot towards the outside of the bend. You're not of course, it's the road that is tipping down, but the steering goes light and it feels like the track has suddenly got narrower. Slows you down and you lose that 'planted' feel you normally have. It did this every time. I was in dynamic mode for both dampers and steering.

So I went round this route again and tried comfort dampers and steering. Completely different car! What camber change? Instead of the car rising up and then falling over the camber, it just flowed through it, the wheels moving up and down rather than forcing the body up and down. No sensation of the car falling or going light; it just went round the bend and flicked two fingers to the road designers.

Maybe dynamic mode would help for bump and camber-less race tracks but on real roads it's definitely worse. I'd love to try a car with no mag dampers to see how it compares, but whatever you do, I highly recommend you give comfort mode (for the dampers at least) a chance and don't autromatically select Dynamic, thinking it's going to handle better. Real roads need some suspension travel and in Comfort setting, the RS3 is awesome. On the way home I did the same bends in wifey's Gofl 6 GTI and it almost took off and bounced around like crazy at a lower speed than tha RS3 was able to do. Shame I didn't have the RS4 there that day but I think it would have soaked up the camber change very well but had a bit of a float and lost some accuracy as its extra weight and softer dampers failed to totally check the movement.

Nothing else to report, Yorrick out.
 
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So sounds like setting the car up in "Individual" with everything on Dynamic setting and te dampers in Comfort is the way to go for set up?
 
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Can you list what the 4 settings are in the menu ?
I may then be able to identify which I thought was suspension.
Thanks !
The only way you can tell if it has adjustable suspension (mag ride ) is if there is an individual setting in the drive select by selecting that it lists all the features ,if there isn't an individual option then it hasn't got mag ride .
 
Drive select on cars without the mag ride only alters throttle ,gearbox and steering settings ,in the comfort,auto,dynamic and economy pre determined modes.
 
My S3 has an 'individual' mode, doesn't have mag ride though but you can individually set the steering, exhaust and engine. I can't remember if the suspension options appears like it did on the RS3.
 
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The suspension option wording might be on the menu for non mag ride cars also but won't be active because there won't be the mag ride dampers on the car.
 
I am having another drive next week so will take more notice then :)

Based on Yorrik's post above, the mag rides sounds like it would be perfect for me.
So I 100% need to sample a car with mag ride.

Yorrik your findings and comments are very similar to mine.

Agree on the mono pur too having seen it.
Should be standard on an RS *** !
But not noticeable enough to warrant paying for.

If I need to spec mag ride and sports exhaust I will be trimming options down to essentials myself.
 
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Ok, I checked my drive select options (I have no mag ride). I have 5 options including individual, the 4 things that can be set are steering, engine, exhaust sound and ACC (no suspension).

When I drove the RS3 demo, you could adjust suspension setting as well even though it had no mag ride (it made no difference).
 
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Sorry it was t'other forum.... Here it is...two drives:

Car spec: Mythos black with alu pack, SS seats, mag ride, standard exhaust.

Appearance in the flesh: black not the best colour IMHO but the car looks very solid and well finished - quality item! Not a hot rod hot hatch, more a proper shrunken RS. A car for grown-ups, not like a Honda, Renault or Ford. Or Merc A class for that matter.

Seats and interior: grey SS seats superb, very supportive and plenty of headroom for my lankiness. Mono pur nice but not worth paying extra for. All controls very well weighted and everything felt like it was from a bigger more expensive car.

Steering pinpoint accurate in comfort mode but a bit too pointy for my liking in dynamic but I'll probably get used to it. I found I was taking a few bites at corners before I got it just right, wheras comfort mode was just a bit more relaxed and smoother. Feedback was fine and not too much kick or rumble from bumps - a nice car to cruise in - just enough isolation from the bad bits of the road without taking away the clues about what's going on on the surface of the road. Just how I like steering feel to be: a accurate but not coarse/rough.

Ride: a total revelation. Ok it's no limo but ****** hell it rides well! This is what amazed me most about the car. It's fabulously well damped, always in control of its wheels and body but it's actually quite comfortable. In dynamic mode it just sharpens up a bit and you can feel the smaller bumps a bit more, but even small potholes didn't crash and bang. Remarkable. 10/10. Better controlled but yet more comfortable than my

B7 RS4 and miles more comfortable than wifey's Golf 6 GTI which rides like a plank. If you've not specced mag ride: do it!

Engine: smoother than I'd expected but with some real attitude when it gets going. It's an angry thing when pushed, but smooth and creamy when not. The exhaust made all the right noises, a growing fizzy snarl at the top and some pops and bangs on over-run. Just a bit too quiet though. Glad I specced the sports exhaust. Standard is a lovely noise but too quiet. Lots of torque everywhere as you'd expect. This one was of course brand new and should open up a lot with some miles but it felt so smooth and unburstable
smile.png
Not a grumble when I floored it at 7th at about 30mph (sorry - but I had to test it!)

Performance: a lot faster than it felt. It's that smoothness again. I'm used to my RS4 which is a bit more raw and less insulated so every time I checked the speedo I was doing 20mph more than I thought I was. Got told off many times by the dealer for going too fast! Absolutely towering, crushing performance, definitely faster than the RS4, but so civilised and slightly insulated it feels like it's not trying. That's what I want from a car but it won't suit everyone. I fulled out of a junction and floored it, some lag, it certainly shifted but didn't exactly go ballistic, then I noticed I was against the limiter and I was in manual and had started off in 2nd. Quite a take-off for starting in 2nd though! Later I did it properly in S mode and it took off like someone had picked up the car and thrown it - no wheel spin, weave or lurching, just 0-stupid in no time.
Brakes I couldn't test properly (wife...) but they were certainly firm and progressive and not grabby.

What else....? Downshifts smooth but not as instant as I'd like when I use the paddles. It seems to hesitate a bit before deciding to shift down after I've floored it, whether in S or M. I had the engine/transmission in dynamic all the time.




Drove my second RS3 demonstrator on Friday. Bedford Audi, Sepang, alu pack, silver SS Seats, standard exhaust, mag ride, 255 tyres.

Great colour
smile.png
Classy and handsome and not too eye-catching, like the car. Just how an Audi should be.

Alu pack nasty on any colour, even more glad I'm going for standard body colour trim. They had a couple of other cars, a 4 something and a 5 something, both in Sepang but with the gloss black pack. Didn't like it. Blue and black don't work together for me. Each to his/her own. Likewise the silver seats; no thanks. If they want to do a different colour to black, then I'd rather see light tan or dark red.

Exhaust too quiet. Grey wheels look nice though. Still happy with my choice of basic silver ones as I can't live with diamond cut - too easy to damage, expensive to fix and they look even more dated than the plain rotors.

The roads were quite different to my first drive at Cambridge. Lots of big roundabouts and dual carriageways. This exposed an interesting handling characteristic (well, to me anyway...) Modern road designers have got this habit of designing things to slow you down all the time, like putting hedges and other obstructions so that you can't see whether something is coming round a roundabout have to slow right down until you can see, only at the last possible few yards before the junction. Another of their tricks is to build a bad camber on the exit of roundabouts. As you leave the roundabout, it always curves sharply left, and where you'd really like to have a bank to the curve, they camber it the wrong way so that you 'fall off' towards the outside of the bend, slowing you down. ********.

So what did the RS3 make of this? It behaved like a road designer's wet dream. As you accelerate out of the roundabout and accelerate to pass the car on the inside lane, the car keeps all four corners rigid, rides up the camber and then as the camber falls away, the car tips over the crown of the road and 'falls' towards the outside of the bend. So it's flat and simply follows the camber. The sensation is like you've tipped over and rolling a lot towards the outside of the bend. You're not of course, it's the road that is tipping down, but the steering goes light and it feels like the track has suddenly got narrower. Slows you down and you lose that 'planted' feel you normally have. It did this every time. I was in dynamic mode for both dampers and steering.

So I went round this route again and tried comfort dampers and steering. Completely different car! What camber change? Instead of the car rising up and then falling over the camber, it just flowed through it, the wheels moving up and down rather than forcing the body up and down. No sensation of the car falling or going light; it just went round the bend and flicked two fingers to the road designers.

Maybe dynamic mode would help for bump and camber-less race tracks but on real roads it's definitely worse. I'd love to try a car with no mag dampers to see how it compares, but whatever you do, I highly recommend you give comfort mode (for the dampers at least) a chance and don't autromatically select Dynamic, thinking it's going to handle better. Real roads need some suspension travel and in Comfort setting, the RS3 is awesome. On the way home I did the same bends in wifey's Gofl 6 GTI and it almost took off and bounced around like crazy at a lower speed than tha RS3 was able to do. Shame I didn't have the RS4 there that day but I think it would have soaked up the camber change very well but had a bit of a float and lost some accuracy as its extra weight and softer dampers failed to totally check the movement.

Nothing else to report, Yorrick out.
@Yorrick - Interesting thoughts buddy :thumbs up:
 
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Ok, I checked my drive select options (I have no mag ride). I have 5 options including individual, the 4 things that can be set are steering, engine, exhaust sound and ACC (no suspension).

When I drove the RS3 demo, you could adjust suspension setting as well even though it had no mag ride (it made no difference).


Ahh that's it thanks mate so mystery solved.

So pretty sure now car was standard suspension.

I need to sample mag ride now.
 
Good review @Yorrick - sounds like the mag ride is an absolute must. I am not 100% with the handling on my S3 (pogo, floaty) and it does appear the mag ride goes a long way to resolving this.

What else....? Downshifts smooth but not as instant as I'd like when I use the paddles. It seems to hesitate a bit before deciding to shift down after I've floored it, whether in S or M. I had the engine/transmission in dynamic all the time.

If it's like my S3, you'll find if you're on the brakes and ask for a downshift it's pretty instant, if you're not however and just want a lower gear to accelerate quickly (so you're in manual and pull twice to go from 4th -> 2nd) there's a delay, pretty noticeable too, and something else I don't like. It's like it's set for smoothness and not quickness. I've been caught out a few times with this, double click, mash throttle and nothing, then lurch :sadlike:
 
Good review @Yorrick - sounds like the mag ride is an absolute must. I am not 100% with the handling on my S3 (pogo, floaty) and it does appear the mag ride goes a long way to resolving this.



If it's like my S3, you'll find if you're on the brakes and ask for a downshift it's pretty instant, if you're not however and just want a lower gear to accelerate quickly (so you're in manual and pull twice to go from 4th -> 2nd) there's a delay, pretty noticeable too, and something else I don't like. It's like it's set for smoothness and not quickness. I've been caught out a few times with this, double click, mash throttle and nothing, then lurch :sadlike:


Dont forget that there is one more cog in the box on the RS3, than the S3. Also if you are shifting down 2 gears at one, you are requesting 2 gears from the same clutch pack, so there will be a bit of a delay, while the box does its magic!
 
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Yep, always best to shift down an odd number of gears to avoid the box having to shuffle cogs around.
 
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On this subject, what is missing and is present on some other Audi's (as well as BMW's and even the Land Rover Discovery!), is if you hold the downshift paddle it doesn't skip to the lowest possible gear for the current road speed (like the kick down button at the bottom of the throttle does). If it had this it would be much closer to my ideal box, as often you are cruising in top gear and then want to engine brake for a corner/lights etc.
 
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And a double engine!
 
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I am using them
Can I ask who you are dealing with as I have only ever had bad experiences with them until recently when a very nice man showed me around their RS3 but I never got his name.
 
I've been dealing with Matt, but I've bought with dom before who is now a sales manager. They're both sound guys! I only know Dave and dan out of the other sale guys and they're both cool too! So i don't know where your bad experience has come from
 
I've been dealing with Matt, but I've bought with dom before who is now a sales manager. They're both sound guys! I only know Dave and dan out of the other sale guys and they're both cool too! So i don't know where your bad experience has come from
None of those.
 
Saw my first one on the road this morning (apart from when I test drove one of course) In Sepang Blue with Alu pack on the M5 junction 1 at West Bromwich. It looked the business, it had the lighter colour interior.
 
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Saw my first one, in blue, Tuesday night going from Hadlow to Tonbridge. Not going very fast but the two people up front had massive grins on their faces lol.
 
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Saw my first one on the road this morning (apart from when I test drove one of course) In Sepang Blue with Alu pack on the M5 junction 1 at West Bromwich. It looked the business, it had the lighter colour interior.

Liked the Sepang? I've order one in Sepang and it's my first blue car. Have seen one or two around but not a lot... Getting the black exterior package.

Good to hear that it suits the car.
 
Liked the Sepang? I've order one in Sepang and it's my first blue car. Have seen one or two around but not a lot... Getting the black exterior package.

Good to hear that it suits the car.

Sepang looks awesome Duds. I originally ordered mine in Sepang then changed - still might switch again.

You've made a good choice.
 
Sepang looks awesome Duds. I originally ordered mine in Sepang then changed - still might switch again.

You've made a good choice.

What did you chose? Because I'm also mighty temped by going Mythos Black with black rims and black exterior pack... BlackblackBLACK hahaha Looks nice
 

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What did you chose? Because I'm also mighty temped by going Mythos Black with black rims and black exterior pack... BlackblackBLACK hahaha Looks nice

I went for Daytona in the end. I liked the pictures that I've seen of it, although I'm probably being a bit boring as the Abarth and the wife's car are both near enough the same colour.
 
Just had my first drive in an RS3. IT was quit good i must say Sounds very nice with sport exhaust


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I'm test driving an RS3 today, anything particular that I should be test driving or looking out for that would tempt me into buying one now rather than in two years time (investments maturing etc...). I'm coming from an 8P S3 and haven't got any immediate rush to swap out for a new car as it will always ever be a weekend fun car anyhow.

I'm partly going in with a negative sentiment as there was a recent demonstrator displayed in the Canary Wharf Expo and I wasn't totally enamoured by the exterior look. The interior updated cabin was a refreshing change however.

I imagine the drive will change my mind and decision. My other immediate dilemma is 'real estate' as I don't have the garage space to keep both cars as I don't have any intention of selling my S3.
 
8P RS3 started deliveries 18 months before new 8V model launch.

New RS3 announced end of 2014, deliveries summer 2015. It's very reasonable to assume end of 2016 would be facelift time.

Four years seems to be the cycle with Audi going on recent models. Sept 2012 was when the 8V was launched so it will be some time next year. Has to be....

Great analysis, I am estimating 2017. I haven't read enough posts to know if the 2nd generation RS3 will be limited edition? Forgive me for not searching hard enough but it is another reason of mine to wait for an updated version on the 8V platform.

IIRC the 8P had twofacelifts, (1) major lift approx end of 2008 / 2009? (2) minor lift approx 2010 / 2011 when they tweaked the dumbo mirrors as they were affectionately referred to as....

8P was introduced in 2003 then lifted approx 5 years later hence my 2017 estimation.

i would be disappointed if a facelift was introduced after taking delivery but if if it were a limited edition would change that.

Past experiences may not be a reflection on future however.

Thoughts?
 
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I'm test driving an RS3 today, anything particular that I should be test driving or looking out for that would tempt me into buying one now rather than in two years time (investments maturing etc...). I'm coming from an 8P S3 and haven't got any immediate rush to swap out for a new car as it will always ever be a weekend fun car anyhow.

I'm partly going in with a negative sentiment as there was a recent demonstrator displayed in the Canary Wharf Expo and I wasn't totally enamoured by the exterior look. The interior updated cabin was a refreshing change however.

I imagine the drive will change my mind and decision. My other immediate dilemma is 'real estate' as I don't have the garage space to keep both cars as I don't have any intention of selling my S3.

If you take delivery after April 2017 you'll pay £450 per year VED (road tax). I'm glad I'm ordering now and decided my next car is going to be pure electric now the budget has been announced!
 
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The engine in the RS3 still has plenty to 'give' if you can go by anything on the Clubsport, which use's the same engine

'Under the hood, we find the 2.5 liter five-cylinder TFSI engine. In the concept, the turbo engine produces a maximum turbo pressure of 1.5 bar and a power of 525 hp and 600 Nm of torque'
Second paragragh
http://www.autogespot.co.uk/audi-presents-a3-clubsport-quattro-concept
 
The power delivery was relentless having never driven an RS3. The one I drove didn't have the performance exhaust yet the exhaust sound was phenomenal, I can't fathom what the sports one would sound like. The updated mqb chassis drives and corners very well.

Now I must debate whether to purchase...
 
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