Does Anyone Like their S3?

Yes, we've all got opinions and that's great. Problem is some people are like dogs with bones and won't let up until the others submit and accept that the issues they're experiencing are there for everyone when they're clearly not. There's a fair bit of exaggerating going on here that's for sure.
Diesel Fiesta? Classic!
 
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I do hope so (handling improvements with the facelift) :)

And yes, diesel Fiesta, around the same roads. We have a number of them at work, so direct comparisons are easy. Front end grip is quite the eye opener. :)

And please. The dog with bone bit works equally the other way around. There have been plenty of comments, the classic "you're not driving it right", "the issue doesn't exist (because I've never come across it)", "you're driving it in excess of the speed limit", "you don't even own a S3" etc. etc.;)

It's a wonder that anyone on here dares to suggest that their car is less than perfect, seeing as they are immediately categorised into the pariah pile ;)
 
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I totally get the importance of having views from both sides but as someone still waiting to test theirs out I do have to question how hard you've got to hammer this car to get it to misbehave the way some folks are describing?

I've watched countless review videos, some giving the test car a decent bit of stick. The understeer comes over loud and clear but I must have missed the ones that reckon it bounces around like a one legged kangeroo trying it's level best to dump you in the nearest ditch?

Edit: One thing's for sure though they've got to be speeds I'm not prepared to go to on UK roads. I still remember when my old man stacked one of his many sports cars into a broken down lorry off a blind bend and ended up with his nose spread across his face. If he hadn't had a seat belt on well............you get the idea.
 
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Today was the classic journey. Damp roads, damp roundabouts.
Was pretty much on the road most of the day, in the S3, Fiesta, Citan.

S3 was brilliant in the straights and exits from roundabouts. No problems with traction, or power. However, under heavy braking, it was squirming around on approach to the roundabouts (no such squirming with the other 2 cars). Around the roundabout, I had to extra careful, and really really drive the S3 gingerly as the car went from no grip to grip to back end out to grip to no grip. Again, with the other 2 cars, they didn't feel like they warranted such attention, the Fiesta & Citan just gripped around the roundabout, until they let go (at a speed higher than the S3) ..

What the most telling thing was - if I had shut my eyes going around the roundabout - in the S3 I wouldn't have a clue what the front wheels were doing, but in the other 2 it was quite obvious from the feedback at the limits.

With the S3, you definitely need other cues (visual, bum feel etc,) as you get nothing through the steering wheel at the limit.
 
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I totally get the importance of having views from both sides but as someone still waiting to test theirs out I do have to question how hard you've got to hammer this car to get it to misbehave the way some folks are describing?

I've watched countless review videos, some giving the test car a decent bit of stick. The understeer comes over loud and clear but I must have missed the ones that reckon it bounces around like a one legged kangeroo trying it's level best to dump you in the nearest ditch?

Edit: One thing's for sure though they've got to be speeds I'm not prepared to go to on UK roads. I still remember when my old man stacked one of his many sports cars into a broken down lorry off a blind bend and ended up with his nose spread across his face. If he hadn't had a seat belt on well............you get the idea.
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I would suggest these 2 threads are a good place to start for the pogo stick characteristics:

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/s3-a3-ride-handling-honest-opinions.240977/
http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/coilovers-for-the-8v.241997/


But some people will never discover these characteristics, it's a combination of factors, roads and conditions :)
 
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veeeight said:
I would suggest these 2 threads are a good place to start for the pogo stick characteristics:

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/s3-a3-ride-handling-honest-opinions.240977/
http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/coilovers-for-the-8v.241997/


But some people will never discover these characteristics, it's a combination of factors, roads and conditions :)
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I've read them Veeeight but I don't know whether their accounts are credible or not and I doubt you can vouch for them from personal experience.

As far as your squirmy drive today, I don't doubt what you say but I would have thought given the amount of rain we get in the UK there would be more reports by now?

Of course I can't vouch for the positive comments either although they do seem more in tune with my driving style, but the thing I really can't get is how the feedback can be so divided. I mean it's not even close.
 
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I live in the middle of nowhere, with some pretty good variety of roads around me, little traffic.

My daily commute is 30 miles of varied very fast roads, little traffic, perhaps others aren't as fortunate :)

I can't see why you would cast doubt on the credibility of those other reports, as you say, I can't vouch for them, but there's no reason for someone to make stuff up. They are merely two threads out of quite a few to remark on the (undesirable) characteristics of this car (again, some people will never discover this).

Is it a good car? Yes
Is it a great car? No (IMO)
Is it an involving car to drive? No, not for me. You just end up managing the various traits, as opposed to driving it to get the most out of it.

Brilliant in a straight line, though :)
 
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2nd time chiming in; 2015 S3 with 19" and mag. it feels like the springs are too soft and trying to compensate with the mag shocks to make up for it. I particularly notice it over any speed bumps - holy crap that was a surprise the first time I took one in a parking lot. in 'comfort' on the highway she can wallow around a bit. Steering is dead, but then, I was expecting a dead steering wheel as part of the Haldex equation (my first Audi). Dropping the tire pressure closer to spec helped calm the chassis down at speed. I wouldn't want to track it, not with all that front end weight, but having all the traction for winter in the mountains should be great.

I'd easily buy another - still think it's brilliant value and all-rounder. We can't buy Golf R's here yet, Xdrive and 4Matic's are a lot more $'s. not many small awd coupes with any hp left to pick from.
 
As an owner of many a car and serial watcher of most motoring programmes over the years I can confidently state that EVERY car has its limits. Part of the joy of driving is learning how to find and accommodate them to get the best out of a car.

Of course you can just complain about them or you can continue to enjoy and exploit all the finer points.
 
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I don't disagree that every car has its limits.

Every car does have its limits. My complaint is that a new generation of S3 has limits in certain areas that are lower than the older generation, and/or lower than a non "performance" car costing £10k less from a so called "lesser" brand.

Which isn't right in my view.

Some owners choose to live with this because other areas (eg interior) balances the ownership equation. That's their choice, and that's fine and as valid.

Seriously. This thread should be about the car, good and bad, not about attacking people's views and opinions. Well, not until politicians get elected to make thought crime law. ;)

And with that thought, I'm off to the polling booth :)
 
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Opinions are well and good but I fear this and similar threads may scare people off this forum. There are some seriously broken records here and it's now sounding VERY VERY tiresome. I'm happy to listen to views but they become less valid after about 100 times or so...

Much like the run up to the election day to continue the theme.
 
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Anyone on this forum is entitled to think what they like about their car or any car.

As for the broken record tiresome bit, reading such posts aren't compulsory, and there are far more numerous gushing and praiseworthy posts, that far outweigh any criticsisms. I feel that a small number of people are overly sensitised to any criticism :)

Not to pick on anyone in particular, but on this thread in particular, two vocal responders to my posts, one doesn't even own a S3, and the other hasn't taken delivery of theirs yet. And yet try to tell me that the problems don't exist. Does that make their views any less valid?
 
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Same driver, same driving style and yet in over 130,000 miles in my 204bhp haldex Golf (not that much slower) did not demonstrate behaviour that I've experienced in S3 regarding suspension rebound.

Neither did I experience the squirming under braking with the Golf, switching to Goodyear Eagle F1's has helped (and given alloy rim protection, a good enough reason to not have the Conti!) but it hasn't solved it.


And I don't think comments about driving speed are relevant to the points raised. I've never had points or a crash, yes I break the speed limit (but not in 30/40 - much to the annoyance of those with "Child on board" stickers (why?! I wasn't going to drive into you anyway!!!) right on my boot, texting and complaining at me impeding their desire to go 40 in every scenario... perhaps I digress...) but if you've ever driven on M3/M4 and do 70, you are in the minority - 80 is cruise, 90 is quite normal. Most drivers break the speed limit.


So to summarise, I love the S3 - it really is fab. But, compared to my previous car, it suffers from two surprising characteristics - suspension rebound and worse traction (unless the road surface is smooth).
 
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veeeight said:
I don't disagree that every car has its limits.

Every car does have its limits. My complaint is that a new generation of S3 has limits in certain areas that are lower than the older generation, and/or lower than a non "performance" car costing £10k less from a so called "lesser" brand.

Which isn't right in my view.

Some owners choose to live with this because other areas (eg interior) balances the ownership equation. That's their choice, and that's fine and as valid.

Seriously. This thread should be about the car, good and bad, not about attacking people's views and opinions. Well, not until politicians get elected to make thought crime law. ;)

And with that thought, I'm off to the polling booth :)
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Veeeight I've come to the conclusion in you're case it's not the car it's the driver ,you drive the car on a public road as if it's a racing car on a track and blame the car for not handling in the way the driving God you are expects it to handle ,you say the works diesel fiesta handles better than your S3 if that's true imo the S3 obviously has too much power for you to handle in the situations you are putting it in .You go on an on in hope everyone will submit and agree with you're opinions as someone said earlier you're like a dog with a bone ,you were talking a load of nonsense the other week on the subject of the RS3 ,this section of the forum is is titled the 8v section not The Veeeight section which recently a lot of the topics turn into a discussion on Veeeight and how dissatisfied Veeeight is with his S3.If you're that unhappy with you're S3 selI it and find another car that suits your needs and stop hijacking every S3 thread ,I cba to write anymore on the subject of Veeeight and unusually for me cba to find a giff
 
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Thank you for your valuable balanced insight and contribution :)


Let's try and keep it about the car :)
 
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Interesting views. I had a MK2 TT V6 Quattro and my son had a MK5 Golf R32 and I can safely say I can get from A to B quicker in my S3 Saloon than I could in any of those two. It's definitely got less under steer.
Is it more fidgety? Who knows, I don't think so. Is it quicker? Certainly.
 
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This debate had been far better than any election debate but........

Unfortunately, like politicians some posts start to focus more on criticism of the poster rather than what they say.

lets keep it about the car and respect peoples views for what they are......opinions based on experience and we all have different experiences, likes, dislikes and expectations otherwise we would be driving around in Sepang Blue S3's with mono pur
 
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Well,
I pushed on in mine for the first time yesterday....its still only got 270 miles on the clock.....

Must say, I found the car very grippy round bends and certainly handled well to me. I couldn't get it to understeer at all, but Im not an expert driver, Im just a fair standard road driver with 30+ years of experience of driving UK roads suitably quickly.

I pushed it as quick as was safe on local country roads and it just gripped and went round the bends, no drama at all. - The motoring press seem to dislike this safe predictable handling......I love it!

Don't want to get involved in the world versus veeeight debate as he's totally entitled to his own opinions.....however, I do find the comments versus a Fiesta diesel quite laughable. Seriously veeeight, have you driven a different S3 because yours may have an issue. My daughter has a brand new Fiesta 1.2 zetec and theres no way it goes round corners as well as my S3.....no way at all. It understeers very predictably and soon gives up grip, however, I will say it rides over uneven surfaces very well for a small car.
 
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Yes this has been a rather interesting read.. and tbh has actually pushed me toward leaving the forum for a while!..

Let's attack the 1 person who's opinion is something I don't want to hear!! Shocking!!

Where in fact his opinion is pretty much similar to quite a few S3 owners, including myself, although we have this opinion of certain aspects of the S3 at the end of the day we still choose to have it on our driveways and still actually love it and try to find workarounds for the problems.

I myself have taken to driving on the wrong side of the road at certain points purely to avoid a dip that gives me the "pogo stick" effect. I obviously only do this when the road is 100% clear from other traffic!!!!!! But I suppose the "pogo stick" effect is because I am driving out with my capability..and the S3 has too much power for me to handle..... when I hit the same dip in my old A1, which had approx 120bhp less, at exactly the same speed as my S3 may I add (within national limits of course), and it did NOT give me the "pogo stick" effect it really must be because the S3 has much more power that I don't know what to do with..!!! :keule:

Back on topic! I love my S3!!!!!!!!! :kissmyrings:
 
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Audi's are tend to be biased towards understeer - it's an inherent characteristic of their suspension/steering setup versus BMW (oversteer). Mercedes are designed "wafty" except for the AMG's, which tend to be oversteer biased. Not sure about Fords etc. The big 3 Germans have characteristics.

For a long time I thought Audi were all about grip...constant grip...from 4WD but they're biased towards understeer still. It's also why you feel "disconnected" from the front wheels - because you are. The rear is stickier.

These are supposed to be differentiators. Some prefer Audi's setup because it's grippy until the front end gives up - which, arguably, is more predictable than being grippy and then spinning out like a Beemer (in amateur hands of course). Audis are more forgiving of turning too sharply/entering corners too fast.

Sources: I have engineering friends who all work for the above, or have worked.
Disclaimer: It's not ALWAYS the case but they say these are the "tendencies" or "trends" - whatever you want to call them but it's not set in stone.
 
^ My slight addition to the above (which I don't wholly disagree with) is that both BMW and Mercedes are predominantly rear wheel drive, hence the ability to oversteer under power. Audi's are FWD, Haldex cars are predominantly FWD, thus no ability to oversteer under power from the rear wheels. Even Audi's with "proper" quattro will find it difficult to oversteer from the rear, the best they can manage (under normal road conditions) is a 4 wheel drift, or more usually, understeer. The R8 is the exception, of course.

A small pedantic comment from me - AWD on an Audi is mainly about *traction*, not grip. Having AWD or 4WD doesn't necessarily give you more *grip* around a corner, but it certainly gives you more *traction* when the power is put down. Two different things, grip and traction. Hence why, its possible for a small FWD car to have more *grip* around a corner, than an Audi AWD ;)

Lateral Grip is determined by many different factors, chassis setup, weight distribution, suspension setup, camber, castor, tyres, loading etc. etc.

The "differentiators" are more as a result of which wheels are driven, rather than a deliberate engineering of understeer (though most mass market manufacturers tend to set up a car to understeer initially, as its safer/easier for the general public to cope with).
 
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Veeeight you're correct, I haven't taken delivery of the car yet and feel free to refer to me by name, but I don't think i've actually said anywhere at all that the problems reported by you "don't exist". I do feel having read some of your posts that there are a number of contradictions in them though. I believe my consistent theme has been that all cars have their limits, different users will find some of these or not find them on a case by case basis. Also there is the type of use and expectation each of us has.

This isn't a personal thing as i've said before I find your experience and comment valuable on many areas here as a wealth of resource in terms of different aspects of the car. I also agree and would encourage everyone to have their opinion. Just that some perhaps make theirs a little more abruptly than others and perhaps labour them a little more.

I also know that reading repetitive negative broken record posts are not compulsory, but when interspersed with many interesting posts from many other users it makes navigating this excellent forum much more challenging.
 
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This is a difficult one to nail as everyone has different expectations, experience & skills and probably no two forum members drive on the same stretch of road at the same speed I'm sure some are more laid back (probably myself included) and some prefer a more aggressive drive. Whilst I like to 'go with the flow' most of the time I also like to have a play from time to time and if someone is driving at 50mph in a 60mph limit with a clear road ahead then there's no way I'll be behind them for long as that's a pet hate of mine.

I've probably had more than the average number of cars in my 30 years of having a licence. Just tried to jot them down and from memory there's 36 but I'm sure to have missed some off. Forgetting some of the early ones and RWD being Mk1 Mexico's x2, Capri 3.0's x3, Cortina's, etc and some of the more restrained cars including Focus Titanium, Fiesta Titanium (diesel), A3 1.8TFSI 8P and an Alfa Giulietta. The more interesting ones including 205 GTi 1.6, 205 GTi 1.9, 309 GTi and also a Goodwood GTi, XR2, Polo GTi, Golf GTi, 306 XSI, 306 S16, 306 GTi, Clio 182, Clio 197, Clio Trophy, 206 GTi, Honda Civic Type R (triangle shape), ST170, Audi TT and my previous car being a Leon FR.

To answer some of the S3 criticism's I find that whilst my S3 does corner like it's on rails that it does offer less steering feedback than some of my other cars. Maybe it is a trait of being a quattro and something Audi dial in deliberately but I don't remember my TT being the same. Maybe as I push on I may then receive more feedback or maybe not .....
As for the po-go-ing I've got mag ride and experienced this over a speed hump in comfort mode, the rest of the time it's fine. In Dynamic mode no such bounciness so far and I find that I could live in Dynamic mode all of the time it's a fair balance between comfort and handling for me. Mine has 18" wheels.

A fair few guys at work have Fiesta ST's as they are on the car scheme. They rave about them so I can believe that the grin factor £ for £ is greater than S3 ownership but who would win on a track I really have no idea. Which would I rather own ? - the S3 every day.
 
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This is a difficult one to nail as everyone has different expectations, experience & skills and probably no two forum members drive on the same stretch of road at the same speed I'm sure some are more laid back (probably myself included) and some prefer a more aggressive drive. Whilst I like to 'go with the flow' most of the time I also like to have a play from time to time and if someone is driving at 50mph in a 60mph limit with a clear road ahead then there's no way I'll be behind them for long as that's a pet hate of mine.

I've probably had more than the average number of cars in my 30 years of having a licence. Just tried to jot them down and from memory there's 36 but I'm sure to have missed some off. Forgetting some of the early ones and RWD being Mk1 Mexico's x2, Capri 3.0's x3, Cortina's, etc and some of the more restrained cars including Focus Titanium, Fiesta Titanium (diesel), A3 1.8TFSI 8P and an Alfa Giulietta. The more interesting ones including 205 GTi 1.6, 205 GTi 1.9, 309 GTi and also a Goodwood GTi, XR2, Polo GTi, Golf GTi, 306 XSI, 306 S16, 306 GTi, Clio 182, Clio 197, Clio Trophy, 206 GTi, Honda Civic Type R (triangle shape), ST170, Audi TT and my previous car being a Leon FR.

To answer some of the S3 criticism's I find that whilst my S3 does corner like it's on rails that it does offer less steering feedback than some of my other cars. Maybe it is a trait of being a quattro and something Audi dial in deliberately but I don't remember my TT being the same. Maybe as I push on I may then receive more feedback or maybe not .....
As for the po-go-ing I've got mag ride and experienced this over a speed hump in comfort mode, the rest of the time it's fine. In Dynamic mode no such bounciness so far and I find that I could live in Dynamic mode all of the time it's a fair balance between comfort and handling for me. Mine has 18" wheels.

A fair few guys at work have Fiesta ST's as they are on the car scheme. They rave about them so I can believe that the grin factor £ for £ is greater than S3 ownership but who would win on a track I really have no idea. Which would I rather own ? - the S3 every day.
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For more relaxed driving and to reduce fuel consumption when not hooning and so when you want the revs to drop would you say individual mode with all bar engine/gearbox in dynamic mode is the way to go then?
 
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Yes this has been a rather interesting read.. and tbh has actually pushed me toward leaving the forum for a while!..

Let's attack the 1 person who's opinion is something I don't want to hear!! Shocking!!

Where in fact his opinion is pretty much similar to quite a few S3 owners, including myself, although we have this opinion of certain aspects of the S3 at the end of the day we still choose to have it on our driveways and still actually love it and try to find workarounds for the problems.

I myself have taken to driving on the wrong side of the road at certain points purely to avoid a dip that gives me the "pogo stick" effect. I obviously only do this when the road is 100% clear from other traffic!!!!!! But I suppose the "pogo stick" effect is because I am driving out with my capability..and the S3 has too much power for me to handle..... when I hit the same dip in my old A1, which had approx 120bhp less, at exactly the same speed as my S3 may I add (within national limits of course), and it did NOT give me the "pogo stick" effect it really must be because the S3 has much more power that I don't know what to do with..!!! :keule:

Back on topic! I love my S3!!!!!!!!! :kissmyrings:
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Really kicked up a hornets nest starting this thread. Pity it's got a tad personal.
 
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For more relaxed driving and to reduce fuel consumption when not hooning and so when you want the revs to drop would you say individual mode with all bar engine/gearbox in dynamic mode is the way to go then?
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That's my setup yes :thumbs up:
 
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Interesting views. I had a MK2 TT V6 Quattro and my son had a MK5 Golf R32 and I can safely say I can get from A to B quicker in my S3 Saloon than I could in any of those two. It's definitely got less under steer.
Is it more fidgety? Who knows, I don't think so. Is it quicker? Certainly.
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I wonder if there really is something amiss with my car with regards to grip levels then. Or perhaps I've ended up convincing myself
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As for the po-go-ing I've got mag ride and experienced this over a speed hump in comfort mode, the rest of the time it's fine. In Dynamic mode no such bounciness so far and I find that I could live in Dynamic mode all of the time it's a fair balance between comfort and handling for me. Mine has 18" wheels.
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Not driven an S3 with mag ride but I suspect it's an option I should've ticked in hindsight.
 
Correct - Traction and Grip are different and I agree that's what allows some FWD cars to grip despite being thrown around corners and have 270+ HP hitting them. The Astra VXR for example is a prime example of that (thanks to a mechanical limited slip diff - forget electronic, useless).

AWD is great for power off the line. The S3 will monster most FWD/RWD cars in a race between lights - plus you'll get zero torque steer. Cornering is trickier.

However looking at this practically - on most British roads you'll rarely take any car to a limit where you'll notice understeer/oversteer or other biases.

My preference: straight line power over cornering ability. I'd rather blitz people at the lights than attempt to overtake them on a roundabout...I'd be happy to accept the "lesser" cornering abilities in the S3.
 
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Pity that happened...let's just hope the topic can get back on track!!
 
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I had plenty of fun in these two.....

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But not as much fun as this...

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Veeeight did you actually test drive the car and check it was what you wanted? I'm baffled that someone would pay over £30k for an S3 and then bitch about it like a broken record like you are doing here.
If you think you are being balanced and truthful and that makes you stand out as better than everyone else because you can be 'honest', I'm afraid it's having the opposite effect and you come across as a troll to many people. Perhaps backing off a little would help present your argument in a more balanced manner. Don't take this the wrong way, but you always appear front and centre whenever some thread like this appears banging on about the same things. Maybe create one thread of your thoughts and then just link to it like a FAQ.
 
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Bearing in mind I don't know what every member here drives (as not all have details in their sig), is there any kind of a split between SB and Saloon drivers that would account for the wildly different experiences? I'm sure I read somewhere there was a slight power variance to front and rear between the two models? (feel free to slag me off if I'm talking sh*t!!).

This is about as close to playing devil's advocate as I ever get ;)
 
This thread has brought up some interesting points, even if it has got me doubting slightly the choice of my new +£30k car. I think however, the big problem is what we all expect from our cars as individuals and unfortunately there's no one car that fits all.
I'm sure this might upset a few but let's be honest, 'S' cars are just another trim level in the model range and offer that little bit more kudos rather than being sports cars. This is evident comparing the 8L/P/V S3 with their components and dilution, now available with 5 doors and roof rails, WTF!!
I've had my 8P S3 for coming up 3 years and given much thought to its replacement and for me it's done everything it's been asked and more so it's natural replacement was the newer model, with a few additions obviously ;)
It's a quality product, that in the right hands can hustle but its no hot hatch! Those are a different class all together, sub £20K, cheaply manufactured but have huge grin factor, except the all conquering Golf R that can do no wrong ;)
So I go back to the original question, do I love my S3? I don't know as I've only just ordered it.............but the first thing I do every morning is wonder if it's September yet :jump:

Right I'm off to research coil overs just in case this pogoing is such a big issue :undwech:
 
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Simon L said:
Bearing in mind I don't know what every member here drives (as not all have details in their sig), is there any kind of a split between SB and Saloon drivers that would account for the wildly different experiences? I'm sure I read somewhere there was a slight power variance to front and rear between the two models? (feel free to slag me off if I'm talking sh*t!!).

This is about as close to playing devil's advocate as I ever get ;)
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I think the main difference (at least in the UK) is that the saloon comes with mag ride as standard which i personally feel makes a noticable difference to the way the car behaves. I don't think many HB/SB owners have specced mag ride so i'd say that saloon owners are genrerally happier with the setup.
 
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I think the main difference (at least in the UK) is that the saloon comes with mag ride as standard which i personally feel makes a noticable difference to the way the car behaves. I don't think many HB/SB owners have specced mag ride so i'd say that saloon owners are genrerally happier with the setup.
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........that is definitely the impression I've been getting and also probably explains why this kangeroo business hasn't come through in the reviews I've seen, as practically all have been Saloons with mag ride ;)

If that does go some way to explaining the vastly different opinions here maybe our fellow members can stop kicking each other in the nuts!! :)
 
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Just plucking one name out of the air (because I don't keep track of who has what), @ndk83 has a Saloon and has reported bouncing pogo-ing in the Coilovers thread.

I have yet to see any statistically meaningful correlation between Saloon/SB/HB, or Mag Ride or no Mag Ride.
 
veeeight said:
Just plucking one name out of the air (because I don't keep track of who has what), @ndk83 has a Saloon and has reported bouncing pogo-ing in the Coilovers thread.

I have yet to see any statistically meaningful correlation between Saloon/SB/HB, or Mag Ride or no Mag Ride.
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Worth running a poll?

(mind you in the UK we're prob sick of polls!!)
 
veeeight said:
Just plucking one name out of the air (because I don't keep track of who has what), @ndk83 has a Saloon and has reported bouncing pogo-ing in the Coilovers thread.

I have yet to see any statistically meaningful correlation between Saloon/SB/HB, or Mag Ride or no Mag Ride.
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I'd agree, from my own assessment of comments i've probably seen no trend. I still think the whole thing is down to driving style and route - where certain aspects of both meet at a point that then exploits a weaker side of the car's setup. When I pondered over the mag ride option many owners irrespective of wheel size and/or body style had differing opinions on it's impact still, which i think emphasises this point.
 
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