Thinking of buying a 3.0tdi Quattro

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Hi chaps,
I'm having a look at buying my mates 3.0tdi Quattro in black. It looks the dogs and flies but it puffs out black smoke! Any thoughts would be very appreciated thanks. Mark.
 
Has it been remapped? Diesels will leave a little smoke/soot, and I'm talking a little, if the DPF has been removed but that should only be when you accelerate hard. If it's had a bad map, or rather a map that isn't well refined, the engine could be producing smoke necessarily.

What colour is the 'smoke' and under what circumstances does it occur?
 
He thinks it might have had a remap just because it pulls so well. I have no idea how it should perform, just quick!
The puffs of smoke are black, he says it isn't using oil.
 
If it's black that usually indicates the fuel/air mix is not at the correct ratio. This is most commonly caused by a remap which has altered the ECUs pre-defined factory settings, but not maintained the correct fuel to air mix.

The only way to know for sure would be to take it to a reputable remapping company, get the to read the current map, see what improvements could be made, then see if any smoke it present with the new map.

It could potentially be other things which affect the fuel & air entering the engine: MAF, air filter, fuel injectors, fuel pump, etc, however these are less likely (IMO) than a remap issue.

Personally, and this is just my 2p, I would be cautious about buying a car given that:

  • The owner doesn't know if it's had a remap or not
  • The owner drives the car 'hard'
Not to doubt the integrity of your friendship, however the owner could know full well the car has had a remap and doesn't want to admit to it. If he really doesn't know if it's been remapped or not I would question why he's never sought to find this out if it's creating black smoke. The latter is not usually something potential buyers are privy to before a purchase, however if a car has been driven hard and not maintained regularly and thoroughly there is an increased risk of wear on all front, apart from the rear seats...
 
He bought it about a year ago and yes he always drives with the foot hard down. I trust him and he assured me it wasn't using oil.Cheap too!
 
Do the usual checks you would do when purchasing the car. Be a little cautious and dont just buy it as seen. On the basis you want the car then I would put it through a service as a final check. Peace of mind. That might be a better investment than a RAC check.
 
It may well not be using oil, this usually creates blue smoke rather than black.

If it's done 100k or more, bear in mind it will need the cam chains & tensioners replacing at around 120k (no service interval is given in the owners manual, however failure of these chains will ruin the engine) and the repair is about £700 in parts alone and requires the engine to be removed. Mine was done last year and cost about £2k with a few other bits at the same time (water pump, thermostat & drive shaft seal).

Best of luck with the car and look forward to seeing some posts on here if you get it, just go into it with your eyes wide open! But the 3.0tdi is great to drive if you can afford to run & maintain it :arco:
 
Sound dude all noted. Your point about the mileage, it's done approx 120k. It's 06 plate and I can have it for £3500.
 
Thanks guys great input, I know it needs tyres and front shocks but I've seen them go for 6k on an 06 plate.
 
You have had some sound advice, to add to it mine is mapped but doesn't puff. Try and listen to start up when stone cold as I have heard some cars timing chain rattle at first which can indicate chain wear but for 3.5k you could probably break it and get a load back but you will enjoy it.