Best non-water cleaning product?

Matthew_S3 · Mar 5, 2015

Hi, this has been moved from another section of the forum.

I am a bit of a nerd when it comes to cleaning cars. For example I use a paint brush (WITHOUT PAINT) to clean the nucks and crannys of the interior... Yes, yes, I know, very sad!!

However, I have tried a couple of exterior cleaning products (other that the old fashioned water and soap) and they seem to be much easier to use and much quicker! My favourite is Greeced Lightning but not sure if there are better ones or cheaper ones as GL is £15 a bottle off eBay so dread to know how much it would be in an actual shop.

On another note I use the same stuff for the interor (excluding the leather). Should I be using a specialist interior cleaning product? If so, what?

Thanks a lot guys (and gals).

Luke2.0tdi2010 · Mar 21, 2015

waterless cleaning products are a swear word round here mate!...lol, have a look at these two threads and see what you think.....

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/greased-lightning-showroom-shine.210432/

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/greased-lightning.107565/#post-2346247

Matthew_S3 · Mar 21, 2015

Luke2.0tdi2010 said:
waterless cleaning products are a swear word round here mate!...lol, have a look at these two threads and see what you think.....

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/greased-lightning-showroom-shine.210432/

http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/greased-lightning.107565/#post-2346247

Yeah, until I came on here all I used was waterless but I've switched back to old fashioned water and wax!! Washed it today and as my girlfriend rightly put it looked 'b*tchin'!!

Any recommendations for wax etc? I'm using Autoglym shampoo and Aqua-wax.

the_cueball · Mar 21, 2015

I sometimes use ONR waterless wash, works very well, and it's fast and safe to use (if you use it correctly).

the hardest thing about it is getting your head around the fact that it doesn't damage the paint... lol

steeve · Mar 25, 2015

The thing that damages your paint surface is the mechanical action of anything abrasive on the surface. Hence the reason any one with half a clue goes to enormous lengths to make sure as much dirt and grit is removed before you start rubbing round and round on the cars paint work.

Waterless car cleaning will damage your paint finish, perhaps if you're not very perceptive, not particular and idle it may be acceptable to you.

I have a cousin with a new Merc who uses this non water crap, he thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread. He took me to see it, it was clean, but looked like some midgets had been skating around on it.

There's lots of stunning waxes or glazes out there, but do not use a polish.

the_cueball · Mar 25, 2015

I can assure you 100% that, used correctly, ONR does not damage paintwork in any way.

I'm very particular about washing my cars...and I have much more than half a clue.

:thumbs up:

steeve · Mar 27, 2015

the_cueball said:
I can assure you 100% that, used correctly, ONR does not damage paintwork in any way.

I'm very particular about washing my cars...and I have much more than half a clue.

What happens to all that dirt you are rubbing around your paintwork? Doesn't mysteriously disappear. You will have swirls, it's not possible not to.

the_cueball · Mar 27, 2015

All I can suggest is that you actually go and read up on it, and maybe even try it out and then you'll hopefully understand it all...i'm not here to spoon feed people that talk about products they've obviously never used (or used correctly)

just because you don't have a clue about it, doesn't mean it doesn't work.

By all means, go and try it out, and if you still have questions then at least we can have a proper informed conversation.

Trust me though, I was as skeptical as you are, but as I've said, getting your head around the product is actually the hardest hit, it's really easy and safe to use...

steeve · Mar 27, 2015

Sorry I wouldn't use it on my car, I'll try it on yours if you like?
I have enough evidence from looking at peoples cars that do use it.

the_cueball · Mar 27, 2015

very welcome to use it on any of my cars...I have no issues with that at all.

in fact, how about you come round and I'll actually show you how to use it properly and you'll see 100% that it causes no damage.

while you're here, I'll also show you how 1 bucket and no grit guards cause no damage too... honestly mate, I'll turn your whole "detailing knowledge" on its head... lol

in fact, you can even use my paint microscope that I have to see in that kind of detail, that none of the above cause any damage in any way, shape or form... if done correct, by people that actually know what they are doing.

a serious offer, any time you want, cmon put your money where your mouth is and stop hiding behind a keyboard...

or maybe just own up that you have really no idea how to use ONR and cut your BS...

Luke2.0tdi2010 · Mar 27, 2015

Lol, you two have become like a married detailing couple bickering over the last few threads...... lol :kiss:

C'mon kiss and make up

the_cueball · Mar 27, 2015

no bickering from me, just trying to get the truth out there about good products that I actually use to help the OP out with their question.

it's all fun chat.... :lick:

and anyway, nothing to make up, I've offered my services out to help Steeeeeve understand the product better and how to use it correctly... thought I was being very nice actually...

:encouragement:

Luke2.0tdi2010 · Mar 27, 2015

steeve said:
I'll try it on yours if you like?

Lol..... tickled me!

scotty76 · Mar 27, 2015

I've used ONR with no problems in the past. I did take the time to learn how to use it properly. I can only assume the scratched cars are from incorrect use or expecting miracles.

scotty76 · Mar 27, 2015

The guide I used.

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=195294

the_cueball · Mar 27, 2015

exactly, the damage comes from people not using it correctly, and the negativity comes (usually) from people that have never even used it!

a great quote from your link:

2 bucket method - so 1990s

lol

WeeDram · Mar 31, 2015

During the winter I use a similar product, Blackfire Wet Diamond Rinseless Wash, and have no visible swirls on the paint. While I would prefer to use the foam gun and hose rinse year round, that simply isn't practical with our months of extended low temperatures. The driveway would turn into a skating rink and the foam would freeze to the car before it could be rinsed off. With a rinseless wash I can work on very small sections at a time inside the semi-warm garage. The alternative is a touchless commercial car wash but I don't like the idea of it stripping off all that expensive sealant and wax in one go.

manor13 · Mar 31, 2015

i can see the whole onr thing if done correctly its ok with minimum dirt, still a 2 bucket fan though, proofs in the buckets at the end imo.
claybar as well no cloths here, well there is its just hidden

WeeDram · Apr 1, 2015

I use 2 buckets with the Blackfire rinseless wash. It's rinseless meaning you don't have to hose it off, it's not totally waterless. I just have to mop up the filthy puddle under the car afterwards, and the rinse bucket gets pretty dirty.

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