Just go n do it, bud, as it was proved people/google can't predict ur times/speeds especially with manual box...
Santa pod meets stage 2+ ...results...
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I'm at the gti festival in July and will try get to santapod at some point! Duno when's the best time to go to santapod though?
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Erm, who's everyone that's running 12.1's with K04 APR Stage 2+ at Crail Jack?
Certainly nobody that's been there at the last two events I can tell you that much, Even Liam with his Hybrid Turbo S3 8P was doing 12.2's last time.
I've done a 12.09 @ Crail with the Stock K04 mate, The Hybrid TTE that's in mine is ********.. and had nothing but hassle from it, TTE said they will sort it but it's all a big waiting game at least another 2-4 Weeks, pain in my ***.
Good on you, but to say everyone is that's running APR 2+ on K04 at Crail is going 12.1 just not accurate.
Sorry to hear about your Turbo, is that the final diagnosis, the turbo's not running right? What exactly's wrong with it mate?
Ah yeah that's true, mis-read your post mate! The spring on the actuator is not strong enough and the wastegate is just blowing open so can't hold the power...
Ah you did mention that yeah.
Surely an easy fix with a Forge one and a spring from Forge to suit?
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/content.asp?inc=product&cat=010603&product=FMACVAG06
Surely an easy fix with a Forge one and a spring from Forge to suit?
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/content.asp?inc=product&cat=010603&product=FMACVAG06
That is an option mate, but just want to get it all done via TTE so they know the issues etc
Interesting the spring isn't strong enough! . Simon mentioned this to me .Are you running a custom map with it ?
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Ran both Custom and APR Stage 2+ v3.4
Coming up to around 2 months since this problem started, turbo came to me with the completely wrong actuator setting but the tuner I use sussed that out.
Long story short, I'd have went down a different route in hindsight.
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What were you best figures on the dyno ?
I'm sure it'll get sorted . Simon at tte is very helpful .
I'm sure it'll get sorted . Simon at tte is very helpful .
What boost were you running ? Mine came up 406 bhp and 442 lbs with 1.4 bar so may not be much different?
I think Simon from TTE doesn't recommend fitting a forge actuator on their TTE420 not sure why.
Hope @TTE Si (Simon) can comment on that actuator issue
Simon has been great with me, he isn't the owner of TTE so he can only tell me what the guys at the top of the tier at TTE are saying..
Unsure on the boost that it was running mate, my tuner has been working hard trying to get the best from it but it's just not happening, TTE are sending a new unit out to be sure to be fair to them but that's gonna take another 2-4 Weeks on top of the 2 months my car has been off the road...
I wouldn't be happy with anything less than 420hp, after all it is called TTE420+
hmmm, Liam's best was 12.09, i run 12.12 with easy 12.2, with no weight saving n normal mid budget tyres, i believe times around 12.1 is very achievable with APR map...
Hoping it's rewarding for you ! Custom is way forward for this turbo but I'm waiting for apr to develop the map for tte420 as they have mentioned to me there doing . All the best with getting it sorted Liam 
My time was also with no weight-saving mods and was running Chinese Specials lol, think they were called Sunny! I've upgraded since then though haha, 11's will defo be achieveable at Santa Pod on the Stock K04 in my opinion!
At Crail it seems that there is a power/weight sweet spot as the surface doesn't help the car put power down one bit.. I will be taking a little run to the Pod this Summer hopefully!
Hoping it's rewarding for you ! Custom is way forward for this turbo but I'm waiting for apr to develop the map for tte420 as they have mentioned to me there doing . All the best with getting it sorted Liam
Thanks Alex! I hope APR do make a file for the TTE420, haven't heard anything though
Sorry to hear about all the drama u got with that tte420 turbo, it's good to hear bad things as well, cos that hype about it was unbelievable...don't get me wrong, don't wanna c bad things happen to people...
To be fair to TTE they make some awesome bits of kit, I was just the unlucky one.. You can't expect everything to go out the door 110% when they were that busy.. I can understand TTE's view on this too.. But I really don't want to have spent £1650 to have only gained circa 10bhp
Thanks Alex! I hope APR do make a file for the TTE420, haven't heard anything though
I called them last week and there working on it so don't think it will be long !
To be fair to tte bob this is the first instance the tte is not achieving someone's expectations . There are 3 people including myself who are running the tte420 and are very happy with the results . For the money you pay compared to some other big turbo kits it's very good value for money and the results with just a apr stage 2 + map are incredible - hench the hype
I called them last week and there working on it so don't think it will be long !
Ooooo! Keeping my eyes peeled for this!
I'm holding off getting the custom for mine due to that call to apr . They told me they did just an install and first power was 400 bhp and 400 lbs . They are trying different things out atm so when it comes to release ( if they decide to ) they can have the hardware recommendations the same throughout . I spoke to Wayne there and agreed to call back in few weeks so will keep all updated !
Nice! Thanks for the info mate
I love the APR Maps, they always seem to be the most aggressive on the market with lovely Torque figures.Nice! Thanks for the info mate
No problem
i Completely agree . Makes the car feel very alive. Just hope the maps out before summer ! I'm booking myself in at austec racing next sat for a dyno run to see if the cars still running consistently with figures stillNo problem
Nice one mate, let me know how you get on
Thx, I would like to know the times hybrid/BT car can do, n only then u can decide wot is the best stage to stop n just enjoy the car12.1 at stage 2+ is very good.
Stage 3 is the future though.
I'm more than happy with stage 2+ n could recommend people to save cash n stay at stage 1 or 2 if u got no plans to take it to track...
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Thx, I would like to know the times hybrid/BT car can do, n only then u can decide wot is the best stage to stop n just enjoy the car
I'm more than happy with stage 2+ n could recommend people to save cash n stay at stage 1 or 2 if u got no plans to take it to track...
Hi Bob
As you know,I don't do drag runs but I've gone all the steps from Stg1 to a whole new ECU on the biggest turbo I can fit.
The difference between Stg2+ and a big turbo(even a "little" one like a GT3071 ) is enormous and bigger than the step between stock and Stg2+
Times I can't tell you but that's the result above.
If you plan on doing dragstrips, rallycross or trackdays then personally I would recommend going Hybrid as you get much more torque at lower rpm's, bhp and top end just isn't what you need for them sort of days. But that being said they're are ways around the low torque at lower rpm's on the BT Builds If you want balls to the wall flat out speed then the Garrett will come out the victor with ease compared to Hybrids
This is all just my opinion! I also think the wheelbase of cars can have too much power to put down, so it may sound weird but sometimes the less power the better... It's all one big game of physics!
If you want balls to the wall flat out speed then the Garrett will come out the victor with ease compared to Hybrids This is all just my opinion! I also think the wheelbase of cars can have too much power to put down, so it may sound weird but sometimes the less power the better... It's all one big game of physics!
all depends wot u want from ur car, when i compare my daily drive to work n shops, honestly, just stage 1 was more than enough...if u want to take it to drag/track/just want some mental power for no other reason than just because u can, then of course u will need BT...money is the key...cos u will never ever get it back when time comes to sell...
Well I don't regret going BT one bit with my MK6R. A BT is in another league to a hybrid let alone a K04. Yes you have to pay to play, but saying things like the chassis cannot cope with the power or it is better to go for a hybrid rather than a BT for the dragstrip simply isn't true. I have been through every stage in my R and have seen and been in several S3's and a BT S3/ Golf R is by far the best way to go for the dragstrip and trackdays. On the road you do lose a little low down grunt, but you simply adjust your driving style to suit and within a week you'll never look back. I agree that you will never get your money back, but anyone who goes stage 1 will lose all their money on software, with a BT it is mainly hardware, so you at least get a percentage back.
Well I don't regret going BT one bit with my MK6R. A BT is in another league to a hybrid let alone a K04. Yes you have to pay to play, but saying things like the chassis cannot cope with the power or it is better to go for a hybrid rather than a BT for the dragstrip simply isn't true. I have been through every stage in my R and have seen and been in several S3's and a BT S3/ Golf R is by far the best way to go for the dragstrip and trackdays. On the road you do lose a little low down grunt, but you simply adjust your driving style to suit and within a week you'll never look back. I agree that you will never get your money back, but anyone who goes stage 1 will lose all their money on software, with a BT it is mainly hardware, so you at least get a percentage back.
We all have opinions, that's what makes the forum a good place to be!
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Re : the loss of low down response etc on BT builds,I'm waiting to see what happens with mine soon.
In size terms(!) it's about the biggest turbo that will fit into the car ,and should be a bit poor low down,but against that is the list of mods to the turbo itself,and the new ECU,and the fact that it can run ALS,and a lot of other things that the stock ECU can't,so it'll be interesting to see how it compares to the old turbo.
In size terms(!) it's about the biggest turbo that will fit into the car ,and should be a bit poor low down,but against that is the list of mods to the turbo itself,and the new ECU,and the fact that it can run ALS,and a lot of other things that the stock ECU can't,so it'll be interesting to see how it compares to the old turbo.
