Make sure you don't fall foul of the new Road Taxation and driving licence laws.

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Whilst this isn't solely to do with A3 or S3 8V vehicles I'm sure there are many like me that only look on this aspect of this wonderful forum.

The forthcoming changes to vehicle taxation will become effective on October the first.

I hope you find this interesting, all the detail can be found on the DVLA website.
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Buying a vehicle

From 1 October, when you buy a vehicle, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferred with the vehicle. You will need to get new vehicle tax before you can use the vehicle.

You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Alternatively, you may wish to visit a Post Office® branch.

Selling a vehicle

If you sell a vehicle after 1 October and you have notified DVLA, you will automatically get a refund for any full calendar months left on the vehicle tax.

Vehicle tax refunds

You will no longer need to make a separate application for a refund of vehicle tax. DVLA will automatically issue a refund when a notification is received from the person named on DVLA vehicle register that the:
•vehicle has been sold or transferred
•vehicle has been scrapped at an Automated Treatment Facility
•vehicle has been exported
•vehicle has been removed from the road and the person on the vehicle register has made a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN)
•person on the vehicle register has changed the tax class on the vehicle to an exempt duty tax class

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Driving licences.
From January 2015, DVLA will no longer issue the paper counterpart to the photocard driving licence.


You can check your driving licence record online, by phone or post.

What this means for you

You do not need to take any action, just keep your current photocard driving licence.

If you have an old style paper driving licence issued before the photocard was introduced in 1998, this change won’t affect you, and you should keep your licence.

The next time you need to update your name, address or renew your licence, you will be issued with a photocard only.

Entitlements, penalty points and the status of your driving licence won’t change.

What to do with your paper counterpart from January 2015

If you don’t think you’ll need it, then you may destroy it. You should not destroy the counterpart before 1 January 2015.

You’ll still be able to use the counterpart driving licence to change your address with DVLA. You can also change your address online.

Organisations and businesses that check the driving licence counterpart

DVLA is developing a new digital enquiry service for launch later this year that will allow organisations and businesses (such as employers and car hire companies) to view information they can currently see on the driving licence counterpart.

This new service will be offered in addition to the existing services, but is designed for those who have a business need for real-time access to the information and may not wish to call DVLA or be in a position to use an intermediary.
 
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Thanks for the information. It is always quite difficult to keep up with all the rule changes. The beauty of a forum :)
 
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So under the new rules I presume if a used car was sold today that the seller would get a refund of tax from September while the buyer has to pay for a full months tax for August i.e. double tax is paid for August on the vehicle being sold!
 
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It reckons I have category A and can ride a motorbike... which isn't true as far as I'm aware because I've never done the test and have been thinking about it.
 
Any government change using technology never starts well and by the end they, and us, just live with it. I think this type of system in years to come will have many inhereted problems especially concerning errors and fraud.

Good post though these reminders are useful, when I was ordering my car they asked me to check my licence and passport are up to date - they weren't! So I wouldn't have been able to collect the car if they didn't remind me.
 
Imagine the number of cars and vans etc sold/bought in a year, the government stands to make millions from this!
 
So under the new rules I presume if a used car was sold today that the seller would get a refund of tax from September while the buyer has to pay for a full months tax for August i.e. double tax is paid for August on the vehicle being sold!

If it was sold today then the current rules still apply, same as if you're caught without a tax disc (failure to display).

It changes on October 1st. Now what confuses me is that the tax isn't transferable so if you sell a vehicle privately can the buyer collect it and drive away?
 
If it was sold today then the current rules still apply, same as if you're caught without a tax disc (failure to display).

It changes on October 1st. Now what confuses me is that the tax isn't transferable so if you sell a vehicle privately can the buyer collect it and drive away?

I did some more reading up on this - it seems that when you buy a used car there is going to be no grace period for sorting out the tax so presumably you are expected to tax the car before you drive away in it.

Source:
Vehicle tax changes from 1 October 2014: No more tax disc | Devon & Cornwall Police
 
I did some more reading up on this - it seems that when you buy a used car there is going to be no grace period for sorting out the tax so presumably you are expected to tax the car before you drive away in it.

Source:
Vehicle tax changes from 1 October 2014: No more tax disc | Devon & Cornwall Police

I suppose the only saving grace is that the vehicle will show it's still taxed on the database until the seller sends and the DVLA receives the slip from the V5. That will take several days.
 
Can we all remove our Tax discs from the windscreen on October the 1st?
 
Can we all remove our Tax discs from the windscreen on October the 1st?

Yes.
From Gov.uk:
"From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen. If you have a tax disc with any months left to run after this date, then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed."
 
Yes.
From Gov.uk:
"From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen. If you have a tax disc with any months left to run after this date, then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed."

Thanks Jason, I wonder how many of us will remove ours? Mine will go for certain.
 
Thanks Jason, I wonder how many of us will remove ours? Mine will go for certain.

Mine will go... might even do it the night before :p

Only just applied for a new tax disc as well, mine runs out at the end of this month! The new one is only going to get a month in use before it goes
 
"then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed."

Don't destroy it, in about another forty or fifty years they'll be selling these at antique fairs. Some one will be showing one to Fiona Bruce's granddaughter on the latest 3D holographic version of Antiques Roadshow.
 
So if your going to look at a car and decide to buy it how are you going to tax it at the side of the road?

The only way I can see it is that the tax stops when the form is processed at the DVLA, so should the Old Bill check when your driving it home it will still show taxed. I'm not sure how this might stand legally though. But it will mean that before you can drive a used car away from a dealer you're going to have to tax it.

I have a feeling this will result in a load more people driving around in untaxed cars.
 
From Gov.uk:
"From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen. If you have a tax disc with any months left to run after this date, then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed."

There's goes an entire industry producing tax disc holders...!

And one less place for dealers to stick their brand on your car - clearly a good thing.
 
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You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Is it possible, if the new keeper can tax it online/by phone 24/7, does that mean the seller can register the sale online too or does the new keeper taxing the vehicle trigger the change of keeper/refund process?
 
Haha seriously I have just picked up my S3 a week or so ago.

The car came without the tax disc as the dvla now send them out to the dealer in a few days post registration and you get a letter giving 14 days grace until you need to display it.

So anyway.... Tax disc arrived yesterday but as I collected the car with no tax disc I didn't have a holder.

I actually went to Halfrauds today to collect one of those stainless rich brook holders but they didn't have the one I wanted in stock. So glad I read this as I was away to another store tomorrow to buy one :)

Happy days £10 up tomorrow :)
 
Enhanced IT capabilities more than make up for the loss of the visual check.
:rolleyes:

This provides protection and clarity to motorists of what their responsibility is as it will prevent the new keeper of a vehicle from unknowingly keeping an unlicensed vehicle. There will not be any grace period.
That's absolute crap. No one should unknowingly keep an unlicenced (they can't even spell that right) vehicle because the tax disc should be there for all to see. It's going to cause utter confusion and there's going to be chaos as people hang around waiting for refunds.
 
This is a little bit annoying, as I just bought a new "S3" alloy tax disk holder for the new car!
 
Interesting ......I did know about this ...BUT I have updated my driving licence recently (27.01.2015) and have received both parts through the post? Does it start at the end of January maybe?
 
My wife's new licence came yesterday along with the paper counterpart
 
Following a 2 minute search on the DVLA website I found this statement:

From 8 June 2015, the photocard licence counterpart will not be valid and will no longer be issued by DVLA.

The wonders of modern technology!!
 
As far as the tax situation goes, it's pretty straight forward, displaying a tax disc is no longer required and when u buy a car second hand you need to tax it! Any remaining tax already on it is refunded to the seller. All done online or on the phone in about 5 minutes. Easy!

This system is better for a number of reasons:

- No more crap stuck on your windscreen cluttering it up
- No more getting a fine for not displaying your tax even when it is taxed (i.e it fell off or was stolen)
- No more charge for a replacement disc if you lose it
- Saves paper (should the price of road tax be reduced for this?)
- No fraudulent counterfeit task disks (how many cars have been sold with fake disks and the buyer believing it was taxed)
- Tax is no longer a selling point when selling a vehicle

The only bad things are that its something else to do when u buy a car and there are considerably less excuses for not having tax (which could be a good thing)

It's the same as insurance really, I mean we've never had to display insurance or transferred the insurance remaining and you wouldn't buy a car without insuring it! Would you??
 
The counterpart was good for a few reasons:

- Some car rental agencies will only rent you a car if you have no points (or a limited amount) on your licence so It was a way of showing your licence is clean. The same goes for some employers when giving you a job.
- It displays your provisional entitlement, so if you were to do cat C etc you could show you have the provisional licence.
- Generally people never keep both parts together so if you lost your card you still had something to find out your licence number etc or had it to produce to the police if needs be.

Agreed it is useless in this day and age when everything is online anyway and it saves paper. I must have lost my counterpart dozens of times so it's one less pice of paper to lose :)

As for some people saying they now have a motorbike licence displayed when they have never done their A licence, this is not a full bike licence! This is a Tricycle licence (in the remarks/codes it will say 79(tri).
 
As for some people saying they now have a motorbike licence displayed when they have never done their A licence, this is not a full bike licence! This is a Tricycle licence (in the remarks/codes it will say 79(tri).

I took what was then the only motorcycle test back in 1964 using a Honda 50cc with an automatic clutch. This gave me a full motorcycle licence which even now allows me to ride any motorcycle. When I purchased a scooter some years ago I did go on a refresher course and I'm know full well that if I got on a full size modern motorcycle I wouldn't know where to start.
 
I took what was then the only motorcycle test back in 1964 using a Honda 50cc with an automatic clutch. This gave me a full motorcycle licence which even now allows me to ride any motorcycle. When I purchased a scooter some years ago I did go on a refresher course and I'm know full well that if I got on a full size modern motorcycle I wouldn't know where to start.

Oldschool grandfather rights, I know people who did a car test many years ago and now have full HGV licences as a result :)