8V S3 Tuning Thread

Hello strangers!!

Ok so i've been wondering if there is finally a remap from Revo yet for the 8V S3, i have just looked at their website and apparently there is!

Ive not logged on for a long time so this might be old news, i don't currently have time to read through the thread, can someone quickly clarify this? Has anyone bought one yet? If so then im getting it tuned this week!

Cheers!
 
Johnnyb said:
Hello strangers!!

Ok so i've been wondering if there is finally a remap from Revo yet for the 8V S3, i have just looked at their website and apparently there is!

Ive not logged on for a long time so this might be old news, i don't currently have time to read through the thread, can someone quickly clarify this? Has anyone bought one yet? If so then im getting it tuned this week!

Cheers!
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Yea, Revo have a remap out now. Think there is 25% off just now as well
 
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Gonna try get booked in at Stattlers this week, i'll post a review of it here as soon as i get it!
 
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gtiller said:
Highly recommended! My S3 now feels like how I thought it should be.
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Yes mate i can imagine, to be honest i have been a bit bored with the performance of the S3 lately as i usually get every car i own remapped, so much so that i test drove a CLA 45 AMG today, and was mightily disappointed...

Got to say that when i sat back in the S3 i fell in love with it again, and finding out about Revo is the icing on the cake!
 
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I had a mapped B8 S4, and my S3 is easily quicker. No nose diving under breaking which is a bonus.

The only thing I want to play with now is the haldex... I really loved full time four wheel drive - the sure footed feeling in the wet and on fast bends was superior in my other Audis, and I think with some tweaking, the S3 could be better than it is currently.
 
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gtiller said:
I had a mapped B8 S4, and my S3 is easily quicker. No nose diving under breaking which is a bonus.

The only thing I want to play with now is the haldex... I really loved full time four wheel drive - the sure footed feeling in the wet and on fast bends was superior in my other Audis, and I think with some tweaking, the S3 could be better than it is currently.
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Right!
I'm looking for a Haldex Race for V gen!
 
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@veeeight totally correct, nothing will match a proper Quattro!

What makes it worse is the fact that I was blessed with the trick diff option on my S4 (it was an Audi Press Office car, so had a funny mix of toys on it that I would not have thought of speccing myself)

I would like to play with the haldex though... for fun if nothing else - I am sure Audi spent a lot of time and money getting what they felt was the most out of it.
However, if I understand correctly, it is pretty much the same running gear as the A class AMG, which feels totally different, and even the Golf feels different (although I think they have a different diff)
 
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Shhh

Don't mention Golf or A45

I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.
 
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gtiller said:
I had a mapped B8 S4, and my S3 is easily quicker. No nose diving under breaking which is a bonus.

The only thing I want to play with now is the haldex... I really loved full time four wheel drive - the sure footed feeling in the wet and on fast bends was superior in my other Audis, and I think with some tweaking, the S3 could be better than it is currently.
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I had a mapped S4 B8 too and it was rapid! Is the Standard S3 quicker or is your S3 mapped also?
 
gtiller said:
Yes, my S3 is now mapped.

I reckon my mapped S4 was about the same as the S3 when it was standard (S3 is a lot lighter)
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Which performance mode did you get your revo ramap set to when did mapped your S3?
 
gtiller said:
I got the SPS Switch so can flick them if I need to (back to standard for servicing)
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If you are concerned about warranty (TD1 flag) etc then using the SPS to switch "back to standard for servicing" would likely still trigger a TD1. Revo flashes the ECU with one flash file, which contains multiple maps. The SPS just switches between these maps held on the ECU. The Revo standard map is not a vanilla OEM one just their interpretation held amongst the Stage 1 tune and security lock out feature etc . The checksum code for the Revo flash file will be completely different to that of the factory flash file. The only way to avoid a potential TD1 flag is to have the ECU completely wiped and an OEM map file used prior to servicing.
 
How is efficiency- mode working with map or is it like stock? And how about s-tronic? D-mode is little bit sluggish in stock.
 
visionthing said:
If you are concerned about warranty (TD1 flag) etc then using the SPS to switch "back to standard for servicing" would likely still trigger a TD1. Revo flashes the ECU with one flash file, which contains multiple maps. The SPS just switches between these maps held on the ECU. The Revo standard map is not a vanilla OEM one just their interpretation held amongst the Stage 1 tune and security lock out feature etc . The checksum code for the Revo flash file will be completely different to that of the factory flash file. The only way to avoid a potential TD1 flag is to have the ECU completely wiped and an OEM map file used prior to servicing.
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yet they can still check how many times ECU was reflashed
 
I am not worried about the TD1 flag.
I 'switch off' the map for servicing so that it doesn't draw attention to the car and so the engineer doesn't head out on an over spirited test drive.
I see no point in waving it under their nose so blatantly.

The economy mode feels pretty similar to stock - drive is still disengaged when you take your foot off the throttle - same as before. Aircon still switches to Eco mode.

D and S both has really noticeable improvements though.
Seems to pull much better from lower down the rev range.
Casually overtaking, it doesn't need to drop down two gears, there is enough pull just to scoot past in sixth.
Launch control no longer holds at 4000rpm
Fuel economy is improved - easily get 400 miles to a tank now, used to be a real struggle previously
DSG fart is still there, loud and proud!


Most importantly though, it's now quicker than the AMG merc that tore me up before I had the remap.

All in all, I'm really pleased!
 
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Same feelings with the FSR from DTUK, but the pedal box is another story, you can feel differences in reaction through the throttle even in Economy mode. It has to be the same with stage 1 from Revo.
 
I always love these threads that go back and forth about ECU flashing and warranty.

There's a very simple solution: if you are not willing to take the risk of something happening to your car and losing your warranty, don't tune. These "will it trigger a TD1" and "will they know if I've flashed it" comments prove that you are not willing to take that chance.

Done.
 
ConS3 said:
I always love these threads that go back and forth about ECU flashing and warranty.

There's a very simple solution: if you are not willing to take the risk of something happening to your car and losing your warranty, don't tune. These "will it trigger a TD1" and "will they know if I've flashed it" comments prove that you are not willing to take that chance.

Done.
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Or just install a MTM Cantronic box ! ;-)
 
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This is probably a stupid question.. but anyway, i'm going to go ahead and have a milltek kit fitted to my S3, if I take it for service at Audi will they void my warranty because of it?
 
It all depends, doesn't it, on which component/system you are trying to get warranty on.

If you went ahead and had a full Milltek, and your turbo went bang, Audi would be well within their right to refuse to cover the replacement turbo on account that changing the exhaust influenced the gas flow characteristics through the turbo.

On the other hand they couldn't refuse to warrant a faulty headlamp.
 
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veeeight said:
It all depends, doesn't it, on which component/system you are trying to get warranty on.

If you went ahead and had a full Milltek, and your turbo went bang, Audi would be well within their right to refuse to cover the replacement turbo on account that changing the exhaust influenced the gas flow characteristics through the turbo.

On the other hand they couldn't refuse to warrant a faulty headlamp.
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Makes perfect sense, thank you :)
 
veeeight said:
It all depends, doesn't it, on which component/system you are trying to get warranty on.

If you went ahead and had a full Milltek, and your turbo went bang, Audi would be well within their right to refuse to cover the replacement turbo on account that changing the exhaust influenced the gas flow characteristics through the turbo.

On the other hand they couldn't refuse to warrant a faulty headlamp.
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Exactly.

And that's how it went with a headlamp warrnty issue on mine.....clearly not standard,and no questions asked about the engine,other than how much,how fast etc,and no issues with other unrelated warranty items.
 
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Awesome, just thought it was worth checking. Thought they may void the warrenty as a whole that's all.. if that was the case i'd have the exhaust removed before each service
 
Logged these times this morning with VCDS.

Temperature was 2degC, road condition was wet/frosty. Car was slipping and juddering on launch so looking forward to seeing what times i get in the dry

S3 with DTUK FSR box

0-60 mph: 4.1 +- 0.78s
660 feet: 8.4 +- 0.78s, @60 mph
Time(s) km/h m
0.00 0.0 0.0
0.39 31.0 3.4
0.78 17.0 5.2
1.17 31.0 8.5
1.56 39.0 12.8
1.95 49.0 18.1
2.34 57.0 24.3
2.73 72.0 32.0
3.12 75.0 40.2
3.51 82.0 49.1
3.90 89.0 58.8
4.29 96.0 80.1
5.07 108.0 91.8
5.46 113.0 104.0
5.85 118.0 116.8
6.24 120.0 129.9
 
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Anyone know why tuning boxes such as DTUK are able to produce more HP/Torque than a proper remap like Revo?
If anything I would of thought it would of been the other way around?
 
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I don't think anyone at stage one is producing more or less. They all produce the same, they measure it differently though.

Also it is all the same at stage one I would argue. It is a generic map as well from those providing "proper" remaps. I like it that I have resale value left in mine when I get rid of the car.
 
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Even if they are measuring it different, the figures are still quite off between the 2.
I've seen someone post their Revo figures on a dyno run, and a few people post theirs using DTUK's tuning box, so there has to be a difference somewhere besides measurement.
 
What were the difference then? I've never seen them from real users anything other that as good as the same. Also don't forget to look at the before/after on the same day, same dyno figure and then only compare the relative increases. Top line figures really don't mean anything unless you know where it started from.

Cheers,
JP
 
The remap is certainly giving more torque and better throttle response as well as enriching fueling and providing protection for over boost etc. I haven't had a tuning box equipped car on my dyno to compare power outputs - that would be very interesting.

Rick
 
Throttle response can be adapted in other ways as well :) If you were nearer to me I'd love to participate in such a comparison.
 
Thanks for sharing the info. How can you adapt the throttle response? That's my only concern with my remap in level 2
 
If the remap doesn't have it to your liking or can't do it, I would recommend the DTUK Pedalbox. I liked it so much that I not only have one for the R, but also got one for our GL AMG. Which reminds me, better get one for the A4 as well. It transformed the response, and you can adapt it to your own liking.

However I would have thought that who ever done your stage 2 remap would do that for you...
 
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What were the difference then? I've never seen them from real users anything other that as good as the same. Also don't forget to look at the before/after on the same day, same dyno figure and then only compare the relative increases. Top line figures really don't mean anything unless you know where it started from.

Cheers,
JP
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I don't know what the difference is hence why I'm asking.....
 
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