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Just sit there with the fronts spinning I imagine :D

Once you get proficient at driving it's possible to judge the point of wheel spin and exit junctions at quite a rapid pace accelerating quickly without losing all traction or sitting there spinning wheels.
Goodness knows how you think a motorcyclist with one wheel drive 200 bhp, a tiny contact patch and 170 kg vehicle can leave a junction without either spinning it up or flipping it over and still do 0 to 60 times of 2.3 seconds.

I've had a number of 4WD drive cars but I still found that my front wheel drive 8V was beautifully balanced on smooth dry roads.
 
I wasn't really referring or complaining about the proficiency of a driver to tell how much to give it before you lose traction, rather, I was complaining that I couldn't get out of junctions at my normal pace, due to the lower limit of traction on a FWD compared to the AWD ;)
 
I certainly don't get any wheel spin with my current 184q, but then I never used to with my 170 front-wheel drive either. I think in a lot of cases it comes down to how drivers apply the throttle. My journeys often used to involve pulling out into the very busy 'Black Cat' roundabout on the A1 and I didn't have any trouble with just front-wheel drive. They are doing a lot of work to the roundabout at the moment including making more lanes and adding traffic lights so I avoid it whenever possible, at least until all the work is finished.
 
Goodness knows how you think a motorcyclist with one wheel drive 200 bhp, a tiny contact patch and 170 kg vehicle can leave a junction without either spinning it up or flipping it over and still do 0 to 60 times of 2.3 seconds.
That'll be the anti-wheelie control, works great. 1st gear, head down, dump clutch, smile.
 
Making a joke about wheelspin gets taken seriously. More at 10.

While I'm at it, anything RWD and high powered is a death trap in anything more than mild damp ;)
 
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That'll be the anti-wheelie control, works great. 1st gear, head down, dump clutch, smile.

Is that why a motor bike can always get away from the lights quicker, or is it down to the power-to-weight ratio :(
 
It's power to weight ratio.
Very, very few bikes have anti-wheelie control. Only select top spec bikes with traction control, etc have it.
 
It's power to weight ratio.
Very, very few bikes have anti-wheelie control. Only select top spec bikes with traction control, etc have it.
All have anti wheelie installed, some just don't know how to use it....it's right there under your right foot ;)
But only the ones with mono.pur get close to 0-60 in 2.3 :undwech:
 
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All have anti wheelie installed, some just don't know how to use it....it's right there under your right foot ;)
But only the ones with mono.pur get close to 0-60 in 2.3 :undwech:

is that why my rear 12r pads only last 1k miles... ;)

lol
 
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