Why New Golf R Gets Rated Better Than New S3?
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Don't get me wrong I have been a huge Golf fan for many years, owning all marks but my experience tells me the Audi is a better product. With regards these reviews, I mean how many of these 'journalists' run the car for months or years on end?
Tyre screeching around a track is 'tiresome' & I doubt many people actually ever use their hard earned cars in such a manner. Its just nice to know you have the power on tap when you need it. The rest of the time is spent throwing kids, dogs & shopping in it, but all of this is done in much better refinement.
From previous golf 6 experience (GTI/R) the build quality was extremely disappointing and as we know from a residual perspective the S3 will also command higher prices in a few years time.
What I have paid out extra now I will get back almost double in the future & thats before anyone mentions 'leasegate'.
Tyre screeching around a track is 'tiresome' & I doubt many people actually ever use their hard earned cars in such a manner. Its just nice to know you have the power on tap when you need it. The rest of the time is spent throwing kids, dogs & shopping in it, but all of this is done in much better refinement.
From previous golf 6 experience (GTI/R) the build quality was extremely disappointing and as we know from a residual perspective the S3 will also command higher prices in a few years time.
What I have paid out extra now I will get back almost double in the future & thats before anyone mentions 'leasegate'.
I chose the S3 as when i rocked up at the VW dealership the sales team just weren't interested in talking to me, the lady behind the desk didn't even aknowledge me, tried to take a white 5 dr R out for a test drive and the sales rep was not interested as it was wet outside (had a better response around the corner in the Ferrari garage when i walked in dreaming!). Plus i felt the residuals on the S3 would be better and the interior is leagues better.
My personal thoughts are commercially based in the fact that i think they can build the R cheaper than the S3 and make more profit per car (i know they are basically the same but the golf we be built in droves and standard parts panels will be cheaper due to the volume of units built!)
My personal thoughts are commercially based in the fact that i think they can build the R cheaper than the S3 and make more profit per car (i know they are basically the same but the golf we be built in droves and standard parts panels will be cheaper due to the volume of units built!)
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Tosser I think you may have meant ...
I think you may be cirrect there.... must be the i key in my cimputer kebiard
I bet you wouldn't like this part though! http://www.whatcar.com/car-deprecia...eId=5289&modelVersionId=32605&editionId=42781if i was in the market for a Hot Hatch where looks are everything, i'd have the Vauxhall every time
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Is this before or after Leasegate!
Depreciation index
Year 0 Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4
Volkswagen Golf Hatchback 2.0 TSI 300 R 5dr £30,555 £25,351 £20,851 £17,099 £14,599
Audi A3 Hatchback 2.0 TFSI 300 quattro S3 3dr £30,640 £25,450 £20,924 £17,174 £14,701
Personally I don't take any notice of these depreciation indexes but it is interesting where they think values will be in a few years time.
Every one of these "predictions" said my A1 Black Edition would be worth £1,500 less than the worst offer I got from a dealer come trade-in, hence my stance towards them.
Think lease gate will affect used values for the R in time.
Every one of these "predictions" said my A1 Black Edition would be worth £1,500 less than the worst offer I got from a dealer come trade-in, hence my stance towards them.
Think lease gate will affect used values for the R in time.
Like you Pulp, I take these depreciation indexes with a pinch of salt
They were literally miles out on the price I got for my A4 from a Dealer. & that was a walk in to the Stealers sell
The graphs seem wrong, like any one who has sold a newish car I can vouch that the lines aren't steep enough in the first year to represent what really happens.
Depreciation always reduces as the car gets older.
Depreciation always reduces as the car gets older.
Why New Golf R Gets Rated Better Than New S3?
It's a tough one to swallow, especially as this is an Audi forum, but
Both the Golf R and S3 are the bigger brother versions of the small "hot hatch" market, so moving up from the likes of the Clio RS, Peugeot 208 GTi and Fiesta ST.
Amongst the hot hatch top propositions are driving fun, and of course handling.
In this respect, the Golf R is closer to the aforementioned "hot hatches", whilst the S3 (through refinement and being an all rounder) is one step removed from that group.
In this group, the Fiesta ST is currently king, and it's a fantastic car to drive (even though it has the least power of the 3).
It's a tough one to swallow, especially as this is an Audi forum, but
Both the Golf R and S3 are the bigger brother versions of the small "hot hatch" market, so moving up from the likes of the Clio RS, Peugeot 208 GTi and Fiesta ST.
Amongst the hot hatch top propositions are driving fun, and of course handling.
In this respect, the Golf R is closer to the aforementioned "hot hatches", whilst the S3 (through refinement and being an all rounder) is one step removed from that group.
In this group, the Fiesta ST is currently king, and it's a fantastic car to drive (even though it has the least power of the 3).
I agree with veeeight. Not sure the S3/R could even be classed as "hot hatches" - that goes for the 135i M too. They are their own category almost (not sure what though!).
To me a hot hatch should be front wheel drive, cheap(ish), less than 250bhp and have handling that's playful (but won't bite and put you in a ditch).
The Fiesta does do this very well. Great car - they have Recaros too! Might get some stick for this but my ex ran a Twingo Renault Sport for a few years and it was just such a joy. In fact thinking back on it I did have more fun in it than my S3.
But alas....I'm the wrong side of 30 now so I needed to grow up and have something that fulfills my need for speed with good refinement and isnt too "boy racer".
To me a hot hatch should be front wheel drive, cheap(ish), less than 250bhp and have handling that's playful (but won't bite and put you in a ditch).
The Fiesta does do this very well. Great car - they have Recaros too! Might get some stick for this but my ex ran a Twingo Renault Sport for a few years and it was just such a joy. In fact thinking back on it I did have more fun in it than my S3.
But alas....I'm the wrong side of 30 now so I needed to grow up and have something that fulfills my need for speed with good refinement and isnt too "boy racer".
The Renaultsport team know how to make a fun car, that's for sure.
"Super Hatch"? "Hyper Hatch"?
The Fiesta ST is my guilty pleasure. I have a mate who has one, and I really really enjoy driving it, it's so rewarding on the B-roads and twisties. Roundabouts are just such a scream!
They are hot hatches, just a little expensive, but then so was/will be a Focus RS. NOTHING touches an S3 for interior ambiance, but it is far from all that to drive. Still love them though, cool & boisterous when needed
Rick
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VW Ireland have just knocked almost 10,000 euro off the price of the Golf R...... How Fecked off would I be had I have paid the 56,000 euro VW were asking for the Golf R when I bought my S3?
http://blog.volkswagen.ie/2015-volkswagen-golf-r-model-to-start-from-e42445/
http://blog.volkswagen.ie/2015-volkswagen-golf-r-model-to-start-from-e42445/
