Does S Tronic 'learn'?

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Back when I had a DSG GTi, one of the selling points was that the gearbox 'learned' your driving style and adjusted its characteristics accordingly. I did often notice this after my wife had driven it and the character changed. Likewise my wife had my A3 (same gearbox as GTi) for the weekend and now I have found the gearbox much more eager and sporty (she is a more spirited driver). I have never seen Audi promote this feature so maybe it's my imagination? Maybe Drive Select has replaced this capability? Or maybe the VW reps were kidding me.
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This is one that has been touted about on many forums in one or another different versions, ie. the ecu of the engine adapting to different styles. Personally I have never found any scientific evidence to back it up only what drivers seem to 'experience', which could be put down to changes in climatic driving conditions. Perhaps someone out there could put our minds to rest and come up with some proper objective evidence...
 
It doesn't "learn" as such, it "adapts" to its internal parameters (eg:to account for wear on the clutch plates), you can set it to Ground Zero to re-adapt from scratch with VCDS.

With regards to actual driving - it uses a map (or multiple maps) to deliver an output, according to various inputs (throttle position, rate of change of throttle, road speed, incline, driver input, engine torque etc. etc.). There are lots of algorithms within the box and maps, and a degree of fuzzy logic.

But it would be inaccurate to say it "learns", more accurate to say it "adapts" to its internal parameters, not the driver.
 
veeeight said:
It doesn't "learn" as such, it "adapts" to its internal parameters (eg:to account for wear on the clutch plates), you can set it to Ground Zero to re-adapt from scratch with VCDS.

With regards to actual driving - it uses a map (or multiple maps) to deliver an output, according to various inputs (throttle position, rate of change of throttle, road speed, incline, driver input, engine torque etc. etc.). There are lots of algorithms within the box and maps, and a degree of fuzzy logic.

But it would be inaccurate to say it "learns", more accurate to say it "adapts" to its internal parameters, not the driver.
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Yes, I knew 'learn' was a bit of an extreme description, but you do seem to confirm that different driving styles will indeed change the characteristics. And surely that is essentially the same as adapting to the driver.
 
That would imply AI ;)

My washing machine adapts to different factors, weight, temperature, eccentric load etc. but I wouldn't say it learns :)

It's just responding to a set of predetermined inputs and outputting the corresponding outputs as programmed.
 
Exactly, all a ECU can do but when you get into some else's car, as the OP describes, ther
veeeight said:
It's just responding to a set of predetermined inputs and outputting the corresponding outputs as programmed.
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Exactly, sensor information in, settings out, resets when you turn off the ignition...
 
But in this generation you have 5 positions in drive select. I believe it works for what you choose and the ECU don´t requires to adapt. What is well known is that the engine works different with the exterior temperature you have, even if you are in dynamic mode or in efficiency mode.
 
Have you knocked the stick back into gone into Sports mode rather than Drive? (S on the display rather than D)
 
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Have you knocked the stick back into gone into Sports mode rather than Drive? (S on the display rather than D)
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First thing I checked. And it's not that different, just a subtle change. Consensus seems to be that the ECU mapping does adjust but resets after ignition off. That obviously can't account for the car driving differently since my wife drove it days ago so maybe it really is my imagination.
 
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veeeight said:
That would imply AI ;)

My washing machine adapts to different factors, weight, temperature, eccentric load etc. but I wouldn't say it learns :)

It's just responding to a set of predetermined inputs and outputting the corresponding outputs as programmed.
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What's a washing machine ???? :confused:
 
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