TFSI oil pick up pipe replacement.

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Hi chaps,

After reading all the horror stories of the mighty 2.0t being brought down by pick up pipe blockages I decided it was time to replace mine at 105k.

All I will say is it was a pig of a job. If anyone is thinking about a driveway job then don't bother. I'm a truck mechanic and had access to a 2 post ramp and workshop full of tools and it still took me 6.5 hours to remove and install pick up pipe and clean out sump.

After removing the pipe the gauze initially looked pretty clean. I put my torch down the tube and you could then make out how much of it was blocked. I'd say over a 3rd. Probably not enough to cause probs for a while but I will sleep easier now, thats for sure!

The sump was fairly caked in mucky residue from oil/carbon deposits.

If anyone is reading this wondering what is bad about the job, the subframe sits really close to the bottom of the sump, so you have to lower the subframe. The 2 front engine mounts are attached to the sub frame and you have to support the engine to lower the subframe. To get enough room I had to do both, lift the engine up and lower the subframe quite a lot to clear the sump.

The other tricky bit is the 2 sump bolts up in the bell housing. The subframe makes access a nightmare because you can't get the correct angle to get them out. I ended up cutting out the 2 bell housing pieces of bell housing spacer to allow access to the bolts. If you imagine a shape like this (I) the sump bolts on the left side of it, the flywheel on the right. I cut out the centres to make a larger hole for access, more like this ( ) probably not clear but when you see it, it should make more sense.

Anyway, bit of a crappy job done, but I feel relieved. Saturday will see me replacing front shocks and control arm kit, front discs and pads and also the thermostat. Hoping for some trouble free motoring after all of that.

Cheers,

Mark.
 
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I know this is probably unlikely but did you take any pics of the pick up pipe? And what did you do with your pick up "clean it or replace it with the revision part"

Also have you done your chain and tensioner yet? If not I would suggest doing it as you about 15-20k miles over the point were it usually starts giving issues.

Glad you managed to get your sump off :) It is a pain in the butt.

Just out of interest what oil do you use in the vehicle?
 
Gio- how big of a job is chain & tensioner? My car is on 90k miles. I have had it since 55k miles and only had cam belt change and new revision DV.
 
A truck mech driving a petrol engined car, Sir I am disgusted:arco:
 
To be honest mate the job itself is pretty easy. Its getting to it that makes it a pain, as it sits right at the back of the engine.

You might be in the clear if you have used good oil and changed it frequently. But because you got a 2005 you wouldn't have the revised parts in that area and even if you did they still will need changing.

If you take it slow id probably say about 6/7 hours. Thou can be done under 3 hours with a bit of hustle.

Also there is a tool kit that is suggested to be used as you lock the cams in place as well as the chain and a special tensioner tool to remove it.

What I would ask is, when the engine is warm is it noisy in that area? Secondly if you start the car and pull away gently do you hear like a "hard to describe" its kind of sounds like the noise of a push bike when changing gears but with more clunking and metallic noise.

The other obvious give away is when the car is cold and you start it do you hear like a chain rattling noise when you start it then it disappear. If its excessive then I definitely suggest changing the chain and tensioner. Even with a new part it still will make the noise as it works on oil pressure but shouldn't be excessive should be there for a second if that, then disappear.

Have a read ill try find the video of a fellow member with the chain issue and then you can hear it.

In the mean time if you need any more information just shout :)
 
The push bike changing gears sums the noise up perfectly.

I do use good oil and it is serviced every 12 months or 10k miles.
However, I will have a listen to mine and see if it is noticeable.

This wouldn't be a job I would do myself if it needed changing, would rather give it to my local indy mechanic.
 
Haha, truck man driving lovely petrols! Diesel is alright but the new ones need too much attention and we only do about 7k a year between our 2 cars!

I used Quantum Platinum oil this time, though I have read good things about Mobil 1 New life 0W40 so I may give that a go next time.

I replaced the pick up pipe, not really sure what the revision is, the pipe has like another end to it which is blanked off, so not much beneficial difference that I can see. I have got the old pipe still so can take some pics to show what it was like. I just put it back in the box without cleaning it so should be just how it came out.

I've not heard any rattles or anything, it's been serviced well from new. I don't fancy any more crappy jobs on it for a while so I will listen out for any noises. I'm hoping an ex Audi master tech starts working for another depot of the company I work for soon so I might tap him up for the horrible jobs. Cam belts and timing chains I'm not interested in!
 
Haha, truck man driving lovely petrols! Diesel is alright but the new ones need too much attention and we only do about 7k a year between our 2 cars!

I used Quantum Platinum oil this time, though I have read good things about Mobil 1 New life 0W40 so I may give that a go next time.

I replaced the pick up pipe, not really sure what the revision is, the pipe has like another end to it which is blanked off, so not much beneficial difference that I can see. I have got the old pipe still so can take some pics to show what it was like. I just put it back in the box without cleaning it so should be just how it came out.

I've not heard any rattles or anything, it's been serviced well from new. I don't fancy any more crappy jobs on it for a while so I will listen out for any noises. I'm hoping an ex Audi master tech starts working for another depot of the company I work for soon so I might tap him up for the horrible jobs. Cam belts and timing chains I'm not interested in!


Modern diesels amazing bits of kit until they go wrong, cant argue with that, the trucks are the same
Brother in law wanted newish motor I told him nothing french and for the miles he does no diesel, what does he buy? 1.5DCI megane, the most reliable car make and engine combo going!
 
Modern diesels with EGR and DPF's are just too much of a headache. To make them remotely reliable you'd want to remove the DPF and code out the EGR, that would make a world of difference for lower mileages.

I'll stick to the petrols for now. In the process of swapping my mk4 golf 1.8t for an EP3 Civic as I fancy a change and something a tad more reliable.

Diesel Megane, what a lovely treat for him! Yuk.