S4 oil consumption after service

I will enjoy it, I cant wait, actually im gonna f'ing love it cause its a beast!

But its the most expensive thing I've ever bought, bar the house, so I'm a little anxious lol.

Saying that, I ploughed around 15k into my Nissan 300zx days, it just wasn't all at once.
 
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Rodders. said:
Just traded my oil burning A4 for a s4, don't like this thread.....eeeek
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Don't stress mate. To be honest i have not heard about many S4's which do this. My friend has an 09 plate and he puts in about 1.5 liters
every 9000k miles. Which is really good going.

I just think i have been unlucky. I will get this sorted. Enjoy your S4 when it arrives mate. It is an amazing machine to drive!!!
 
Can someone measure the min max lines from the top of the dipstick please?

I found some measurements for the a4 and made my own dipstick. If I have the dimensions I can just modify this one
 
Just chiming in, my gauge on the MMI has gone down 1/2 in 2500miles. Slightly stressed about this. But that would equate to and empty reading on the MMI after 5000miles. So a 1L top up should see me though to service time. That's not too bad I suppose.
 
Mate that's not bad at all. That is good going. I am in at Audi tomorrow so will see what they say. fingers crossed it is something simple.
 
Rodders. said:
Can someone measure the min max lines from the top of the dipstick please?

I found some measurements for the a4 and made my own dipstick. If I have the dimensions I can just modify this one
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434mm to MIN and 421mm to MAX - give or take 0.5mm, it is bang on 13mm from MIN to MAX.
 
benjie said:
Just chiming in, my gauge on the MMI has gone down 1/2 in 2500miles. Slightly stressed about this. But that would equate to and empty reading on the MMI after 5000miles. So a 1L top up should see me though to service time. That's not too bad I suppose.
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That is better than I used to get with my B5 Passat 2.8 V6 (Audi engine) over its entire 87K/13 years life from new in my ownership. Possible reasons for that were said to be, ignoring it being an engine designed to "use" oil, - problem with the way the piston rings were getting loaded into a hopper at the factory, delinquent employee deliberately roughly lining up the gaps!! OR - engine not run-in "energetically" enough, that one I could believe as I gently ran my car home after collecting it over 1000 miles from home. Now this current car, S4, I bought at 2.5 years old and 12.5K miles, needed all its discs replaced when it was in for its inspection at 2 years old, so maybe it was run-in "energetically" and so now does not use much oil. Conversely, benjie, your car may have been treated with too much respect when new, so uses a bit of oil now. I think the deliberate cross hatching in the bores is meant to enable "good" bedding in of the rings<>bores during the running in period.
 
I have now covered about 1.5k miles since changing to 5w-40 millers nanodrive cts, no usage at all. Still have the cold start chain rattle though!:banghead:
 
rum4mo said:
That is better than I used to get with my B5 Passat 2.8 V6 (Audi engine) over its entire 87K/13 years life from new in my ownership. Possible reasons for that were said to be, ignoring it being an engine designed to "use" oil, - problem with the way the piston rings were getting loaded into a hopper at the factory, delinquent employee deliberately roughly lining up the gaps!! OR - engine not run-in "energetically" enough, that one I could believe as I gently ran my car home after collecting it over 1000 miles from home. Now this current car, S4, I bought at 2.5 years old and 12.5K miles, needed all its discs replaced when it was in for its inspection at 2 years old, so maybe it was run-in "energetically" and so now does not use much oil. Conversely, benjie, your car may have been treated with too much respect when new, so uses a bit of oil now. I think the deliberate cross hatching in the bores is meant to enable "good" bedding in of the rings<>bores during the running in period.
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Thanks for that. I'm not that worried when I think about it. I've come from a MkIV Golf diesel that I'm pretty sure created its own oil and a B6 A4 TDI that I think I put 0.5L in once, so it's a fairly new concept to me I suppose.
 
Hey all, Car is in. Just been advised there is a bulletin that has just come out for the S4 they are checking it now. Something to do with software update and need breather pipe/box or system (not 100% sure what it is). Will know more shortly. They are checking everything against my VIN now.

watch this space!
 
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Hey all, Car is in. Just been advised there is a bulletin that has just come out for the S4 they are checking it now. Something to do with software update and need breather pipe/box or system (not 100% sure what it is). Will know more shortly. They are checking everything against my VIN now.

watch this space!
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Hi mate,

Mine went in for an oil consumption test but they said it need a breather pipe to connect up their equipment to do the test. I was going to get charged another £80 odd on top of the £60 oil consumption test charge. In the end I agreed to top up with oil and reset my trip to do a more manual test. Currently done just over 850 miles and used half a litre so may not be that bad. I'm continuing to monitor but will be interested to hear how you get on.

I'm beginning to think there's nothing wrong with mine and maybe A) it just uses a bit more oil than my previous cars and B) the type of oil could affect consumption from what others are saying in this post.

Good luck and keep us posted!
 
AFN1980 said:
Hey all, Car is in. Just been advised there is a bulletin that has just come out for the S4 they are checking it now. Something to do with software update and need breather pipe/box or system (not 100% sure what it is). Will know more shortly. They are checking everything against my VIN now.

watch this space!
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That would be handy to know about, my car has a CAKA engine code, what is your engine code?
 
AFN1980 said:
Hey all, Car is in. Just been advised there is a bulletin that has just come out for the S4 they are checking it now. Something to do with software update and need breather pipe/box or system (not 100% sure what it is). Will know more shortly. They are checking everything against my VIN now.

watch this space!
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This is potentially promising for you, hope it works out. You could ask them for the VIN range and TSB number and then others on here can panic whilst they check their VIN numbers! (Not me, honest!)
 
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OK guys so just got back. There are no issues to report. My car is using 0.39 liters per 626 miles. This i have been told is way below spec. The acceptable level is 0.48-0.5
They have topped the car up to 6.4l of oil. Everything has been reset. They did pressure tests and couldn't find an issues. No faults found. The Bulletin did not apply to my car. Sorry I could have got the details for others.

They said a whole lot of other stuff in between while explaining how the reading was done and what is measured etc. The most positive thing is they cannot find any faults with me. That gives me some peace if mind. I also took out the extened warranty on it for another year so fingers crossed i don't need to use it.

Something that may have tripped the MMI for oil would have been the bonnet catch and sensors. I had to have them replaced back in march/april and they said this could have caused the MMI readings to be wrong as those sensors are also used for the oil. (My alarm was screwed).

Lets hope i have no more problems with it.
 
Oh one thing about the dipstick. So i have ordered mine and it will be here in a day or so. However when i spoke with Audi today they said you can check the oil with it but be advised that you shouldn't leave the dipstick in there and also if you remove the black cap you will need to put a new one in after you remove it as it has a seal on it. Which breaks when you remove it.

They said they have had a few cars in where people have not replaced it and oil finds it way out. So just a warning. I am not sure if it is true but what i have been told so thought i would share it.
 
benjie said:
Glad your car's okay AFN! And I may need to order a new bung for my oil hole then... I took it out inadvertently in a moment of curiosity!
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Thanks mate. I am glad it is all over now. I will still keep a close eye on the issue. They did say my car was one of the better ones considering it was only using 0.39 of a liter. Not sure if i agree lol. I will get some spare oil when i go costco.

Am tempted to change it completely next time round to some of the other oils the guys on here are using. See if that's any better.
 
AFN1980 said:
Thanks mate. I am glad it is all over now. I will still keep a close eye on the issue. They did say my car was one of the better ones considering it was only using 0.39 of a liter. Not sure if i agree lol. I will get some spare oil when i go costco.

Am tempted to change it completely next time round to some of the other oils the guys on here are using. See if that's any better.
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Great news, you can relax and enjoy the car now.

I've been talking with a few friends and it's quite interesting how many modern day cars seem to use oil. A friend of mine has an E46 M3 which uses a litre every 3k and a Seat Ibiza 1.4TFSI which uses a similar amount. Also have a friend who is a Merc Mechanic and said some of the mercs get through a bit more oil than others as well.

I've just bought 8L of Castrol so may as well use it next time but will look at changing after that to a different oil just as a test. I can see mine using around a litre every 2k at this rate but that's going on the MMI which I don't really trust.

Glad you are all sorted!
 
AFN1980 said:
. However when i spoke with Audi today they said you can check the oil with it but be advised that you shouldn't leave the dipstick in there and also if you remove the black cap you will need to put a new one in after you remove it as it has a seal on it. Which breaks when you remove it.

They said they have had a few cars in where people have not replaced it and oil finds it way out. So just a warning. I am not sure if it is true but what i have been told so thought i would share it.
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What????? Seems a bit bizarre.

Glad car is ok. Do you get much in the way of oil on the back of the car or on the tail pipes of the exhaust as it burns through the system?
 
Are you sure that any of the oils Costco sell are fit for use, or should be used on these cars? I did'nt think so, but could be wrong there.

The plastic plug has a proper, what looks like, "normal" seal on it, so I can't see why it can not be re-used. Anyone had that item listed when they have had an oil change at Audi - I know that my car did not get that listed at its first oil change, and the workshop MUST remove it to fit their "oil level gauge" in, or to remove the old oil as both oil removal methods are approved by Audi it has been said.

The story from "fortitude" in the states was that you must not run the car with a dipstick in as it will melt because it is made of plastic - that has been dismissed as being total tosh!

One thing about the dip stick though, the top sealing face is flat, there ia a flat section on the top of the dip stick tube, so that is okay, but, some dip sticks from that time have a clip on the top end to secure them, although I should add that earlier dip sticks also had that and their seal was lower down, so their top face area is "belled" out to guide the dip stick in and does not have a top sealing face as sealing takes place further down the dip stick tube. The standard sealing plug, I seem to remember, as well as sealing just below the top, has clips to provide positive retention.

So, is this all just Audi upping the game against a back lash, or really true I'd doubt if we will ever know.
 
I was sure i saw edge at costco. Maybe I am going mad. I was about 6 months ago. I could be wrong. If not will shop around and see what I can find.

re the exhaust don't really see any oil on there. Obviously grey and dirty but that's normal when i am lazy and haven't given them a good clean.

I thought the whole oil plug issue could just be waffle but we will never know. As i know i removed mine when i first got the car and have not had any oil leaking from there.
 
AFN1980 said:
I was sure i saw edge at costco. Maybe I am going mad. I was about 6 months ago. I could be wrong. If not will shop around and see what I can find.

re the exhaust don't really see any oil on there. Obviously grey and dirty but that's normal when i am lazy and haven't given them a good clean.

I thought the whole oil plug issue could just be waffle but we will never know. As i know i removed mine when i first got the car and have not had any oil leaking from there.
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I bought my oil from Costco. It specifically says Audi and a couple of other manufacturers on the container.
 
Crazyfool said:
I bought my oil from Costco. It specifically says Audi and a couple of other manufacturers on the container.
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Maybe I've still got my "if it is not Edge LL3 Professional" eyes in, I think that is what drove me to Mobil One ESP 5W-30 - or maybe it was the fact that Audi dealer had used Mobil One ESP 5W-30 at the service that swayed me!
 
I think that the dipstick issue is a bit of a red herring; I have a dipstick supplied by Stoke Audi which is a good fit with no leakage, the standard plug is just that a very ordinary plug thing no seals and certainly nothing special about it other than it looks cheap!
 
elpeterol said:
I think that the dipstick issue is a bit of a red herring; I have a dipstick supplied by Stoke Audi which is a good fit with no leakage, the standard plug is just that a very ordinary plug thing no seals and certainly nothing special about it other than it looks cheap!
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This is good to know. I will take a look when my one arrives.
 
elpeterol said:
I think that the dipstick issue is a bit of a red herring; I have a dipstick supplied by Stoke Audi which is a good fit with no leakage, the standard plug is just that a very ordinary plug thing no seals and certainly nothing special about it other than it looks cheap!
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I'm sure it has a "rubber" collar type seal for sealing "in the bore" as opposed to sealing "on the top face".
You missed the bit about the plug being black so that no one can find it!
 
Doh thought you meant "seal" as in break the seal and the warranty is void! Both the plug and dipstick have a small sealing "O" ring that fits at the top of the tube.
 
Ha ha, the English language, it can make idiots out of us! Anyway, maybe the next person to get this story from their Audi dealer, should go immediately to the parts department and check the availability of a oil plug from stock - now if they are used at each service on every Audi that has one fitted, then they must be held in stock, if they are not stocked, then carry that information back to your service adviser and see what he has to say - then spill the beans on this forum. I'm not trying to be vindictive, just would like to trust Audi dealers.

For instance, petrol fuel filters do not tend to be held as stock items, which might seem strange to anyone that wants to replace their filter every few years, but in the VAG world, petrol fuel filters are only replaced after misfuelling or some other issue, so are not stocked items.
 
elpeterol said:
Doh thought you meant "seal" as in break the seal and the warranty is void! Both the plug and dipstick have a small sealing "O" ring that fits at the top of the tube.
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I'll need to have another look at my dip stick as I thought that it only had a face seal on the "handle" - sounds a bit like you have a different dip stick to me, does your dip stick have retaining clips like the "oil plug"? If it has, would you measure the dip stick TOP > MAX and TOP > MIN to see that if it is different, it is still the same length, and its P/N - only if it is different to what I've described - just to add to our collective knowledge bank!
 
I made a mistake there, my dip stick does not have a face seal at the bottom of the handle! Yesterday it "did" today it has the same O-ring seal down the bore as the oil plug has - my apologies for misinforming anyone!
 
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