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Evening all,

i placed an order for a new 1.4 TFSI Saloon at the start of June and the dealer quoted an expected delivery date of mid-August. I gave them a call yesterday to check on progress and got a response today to say that it has not been given a build week as yet! They now anticipate an October delivery which isn't ideal as my current lease car goes back in September.

Having seen the BW threads on this forum, I now have my doubts that I will actually see my new car in October. Can anyone offer me any hope?

Andrew
 
I had a build week within two days of signing the order form......

Can't understand the inconsistency across dealers.
 
Same, mine came 3 days after signing the order. I'd kick up a fuss.
 
Ask for some screenshots of SLI. Sounds like it's waiting for factory allocation
 
^ This.

A UK dealership group (Eg Listers, Clarks etc) will have had only so many cars allocated to them. If they can already allocate your order to an existing car already allocated, you'll have a build week pronto.

When they have run out of their allocation and are waiting for Audi UK/Factory to do a new order, then you'll be waiting a while as new orders to dealers have to satisfied worldwide.
 
^ This.

A UK dealership group (Eg Listers, Clarks etc) will have had only so many cars allocated to them. If they can already allocate your order to an existing car already allocated, you'll have a build week pronto.

When they have run out of their allocation and are waiting for Audi UK/Factory to do a new order, then you'll be waiting a while as new orders to dealers have to satisfied worldwide.

The reply I got was as follows:-

"We are still waiting for a BW on your car (due to the high demand on the vehicle), but I would estimate delivery would be October time.

The A3 saloon is very high on Audi's agenda to avoid disappointing customers. The car is customer tagged and called off, which is the highest priority we can give it."

I am none the wiser!
 
Tagged and Called Off = Audi UK have said to Audi AG, we want to place an order, we have a customer waiting for this car.

Audi AG hasn't yet accepted the order into their production schedule (but acknowledges the Sales Order).




Unfortunately for you, there is high worldwide demand at present, but good news for everyone else, residuals are high :)
 
I had a build week within two days of signing the order form......

Can't understand the inconsistency across dealers.

It all depends if the dealer has a dealer car in the system or not, and also if they can modify it to your spec.

I say that's where some have had quick turn around in getting a BW while others have waited months ie us (took 5 months - but mainly due to the colour choice of Sepang Blue).
 
Tagged and Called Off = Audi UK have said to Audi AG, we want to place an order, we have a customer waiting for this car.

Audi AG hasn't yet accepted the order into their production schedule (but acknowledges the Sales Order).

Unfortunately for you, there is high worldwide demand at present, but good news for everyone else, residuals are high :)

Realistically then, when I can I expect a BW to be confirmed? From other threads, it looks like it's roughly a five week turnaround, subject to actual shipping to the UK.
 
Not sure what you mean by 5 weeks, but my car was ordered by the dealer as stock on 12th of Dec 2013 and I got it on 15 April 2014.

I re-spec'd as my order it at the end of Jan, and got an estimated BW then.
 
Not sure what you mean by 5 weeks, but my car was ordered by the dealer as stock on 12th of Dec 2013 and I got it on 15 April 2014.

I re-spec'd as my order it at the end of Jan, and got an estimated BW then.

I was thinking confirmed BW to actual ownership. I know it won't help if I don't have a BW but at least I will have an indication of when I might get it...

Any idea of the latest BW confirmed so far?
 
I've been told by one dealer that the saloon allocations are issued in blocks of three months, with the next one being issued in July for builds in October to December. This does seem to tie in with my experience. One thing that is definite is orders are more than supply. Hopefully you'll get a build date in the next couple of weeks, but if what I've been told on allocations is true, then it will be October build and November delivery at the earliest if you can't find an alternative
 
I've been told by one dealer that the saloon allocations are issued in blocks of three months, with the next one being issued in July for builds in October to December. This does seem to tie in with my experience. One thing that is definite is orders are more than supply. Hopefully you'll get a build date in the next couple of weeks, but if what I've been told on allocations is true, then it will be October build and November delivery at the earliest if you can't find an alternative

I ordered late March, not had a build date yet.

November delivery?:(
 
I was in the same position. Ordered on 1 March with a promise of a July/August delivery which fitted with the TT contract being up in September. After much chasing, I eventually got told that I would get a build allocation date in July (not the build, just the build date!). Did a bit of checking around and found on that could still be spec changed with a build week 31 date. That has now been move to week 30, so all set for 1 Sept.

Will miss the TT though, been a great car, but I'm sure the S3 will be as much fun, with a bit more practicality.

Hope you get your car before November Cleggy
 
I was in my dealership the other day and saw my salesman and he said that the wait times for A3s was pretty long still. Not bad considering the model is nearly two years old and 5 months can well be the norm.
 
I was in the same position. Ordered on 1 March with a promise of a July/August delivery which fitted with the TT contract being up in September. After much chasing, I eventually got told that I would get a build allocation date in July (not the build, just the build date!). Did a bit of checking around and found on that could still be spec changed with a build week 31 date. That has now been move to week 30, so all set for 1 Sept.

Will miss the TT though, been a great car, but I'm sure the S3 will be as much fun, with a bit more practicality.

Hope you get your car before November Cleggy

Cheers mate, trouble is I'm now starting to question the dealer (did mine through a broker).
Yesterday, I e-mailed one of the dealers I previously sought figures from, explained where I'm up to and they've now said
they have an S3 saloon which can be spec-amended, delivery around end of September (build week 37).
Trouble is, they were a good 20 quid a month dearer on the original quote so I'm thinking why would they do me a good deal this time around? Also, they said end of September but this usually gets brought forward, me thinks this is their way of trying to get me onboard.
 
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Really down to how much you want it. I managed to get a slightly better deal with the new dealer than I did with the first one. On the positive side, it costs you nothing to ask, and unless you are desperate for a closer date, you can push it on the deal. If they have not sold it yet, with about 10 weeks to build, they may be keen to deal. They'd rather sell than have £30k+ sitting waiting on a buyer.
 
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I ordered late March, not had a build date yet.

November delivery?:(

I dare say it's due to the colour - Sepang Blue, we ordered first week of Feb, was only given a build week last weekend. Basically Audi Australia was in the dark, they couldn't put the cars into the system, and there was so many who wanted Sepang Blue sedan left in limbo for ages, and I know a few did exactly what you're talking about, cancelling orders, going to a different dealer, and buying a car they is already built and on the way.

But our situation, the long wait isn't an issue, as current car lease doesn't run out until Oct, so it has worked out perfectly.
 
I ordered late March, not had a build date yet.

November delivery?:(

Do not accept that. You should have had a build week way before now. I'd look at another dealer who may be able to spec amend an existing car. I ordered on 4 June, dealer spec amended a stock car, I got BW notification on 9 June and BW is 29 (14 July). If you want me to talk to my dealer let me know the spec you want (by PM if you prefer).
 
I was in my dealership the other day and saw my salesman and he said that the wait times for A3s was pretty long still. Not bad considering the model is nearly two years old and 5 months can well be the norm.

Agreed; there have been quite a few threads about very slow delivery recently. Like you I'm amazed how high demand still is given the 8V can no longer be considered new!
 
Agreed; there have been quite a few threads about very slow delivery recently. Like you I'm amazed how high demand still is given the 8V can no longer be considered new!

It is impressive and I'm not really surprised. The A3 as an ownership proposition is very hard to argue against hence why they are struggling to keep up with demand.
 
I think they are also picking up a lot of sales of the A3 saloon for people going in for an A4. Both were on my initial list of options, but the inside of the A4 looks so dated now, so that was crossed off within minutes of the first visit to the dealer, eave. With the large finance contributions and spec packages

I know that a couple of the other A3 saloon orders my dealer has taken were originally looking at the A4. I do wonder if Audi are restricting availability of the saloon so as to not kill the A4 market completely?
 
Ummm... a quick scan of those articles and it appears to me that it is simply about high demand. The yanks don't buy hatch backs. That is why the old A3 did not sell well in the States. Is it a shock that they really like the new A3 saloon/sedan?

Not sure what age has to do with it. Younger people tend to have less disposable income so they buy the cheaper car. It's not rocket surgery.
 
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Ordered my new one on 4th June and got a Build Date of week 37 (wb 8 September) within 3 days. Salesman also said it could come forward.
In my experience it takes 2 to 4 weeks from build to taking delivery in UK. It is somewhat dependent on where you are in the country and ship schedules. All are shipped from Emden but can arrive in UK at either Sheerness, Hull or South Shields depending on final destination. The rest of the delivery journey is by road.
 
Ordered my new one on 4th June and got a Build Date of week 37 (wb 8 September) within 3 days. Salesman also said it could come forward.
In my experience it takes 2 to 4 weeks from build to taking delivery in UK. It is somewhat dependent on where you are in the country and ship schedules. All are shipped from Emden but can arrive in UK at either Sheerness, Hull or South Shields depending on final destination. The rest of the delivery journey is by road.
Not to be picky but the port is not Hull but Grimsby. You can see the *.HIGHWAY vessels going in and out if you look on Marinetraffic.com.
 
Ordered my new one on 4th June and got a Build Date of week 37 (wb 8 September) within 3 days. Salesman also said it could come forward.
In my experience it takes 2 to 4 weeks from build to taking delivery in UK. It is somewhat dependent on where you are in the country and ship schedules. All are shipped from Emden but can arrive in UK at either Sheerness, Hull or South Shields depending on final destination. The rest of the delivery journey is by road.

It transpires that the order was placed with the Audi dealership on 21 May and the factory order reference number was confirmed the following day. So how can the dealer have not obtained a BW for me after this time? I am getting annoyed now!
 
If you have your order number, just ring Audi CS and they will be able to tell you.
 
From another forum:

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Picked from an article on Audiworld posted by a VW/AUdi dealer.

I will try and explain how the factory orders are processed to my knowledge. We have a family-owned VW-Audi dealership here in Finland, and I believe that the factory's NEWADA (Neuwagen Dispositions- und Abwicklungs) distribution system works. The system is used by the factory and the dealers (I do not know if dealers in US have NEWADA access).

When I place an order on NEWADA, the vehicle will automatically get an order number (NW KOM), which will follow the car from placement of order to delivery to customer. This helps dealers/importers/factory track cars, and we often give it to the customer at the time of order to avoid any qustion of switching cars if orders are delayed.

When first entered into NEWADA, the order will go to FAVAS (Farzeug Auftragsverwaltungs und Abgleichsystem) where the production planning/co-ordination and any build restrictions are sorted out. At the time of order into NEWADA, the dealer needs to know his allocation, if in use, and request for build from weeks that he has available allocation. FAVAS will inform NEWADA of the planned production week for the order which may or may not be the original requested week. At this time, the lack of available allotment or any option availability/restrictions etc. can push the order further.

Once NEWADA informs the dealer of the planned week, the wait begins. The order gets confirmed approximately 3 weeks before the actual build week, ie. cars built on week 12 would get confirmation on week 9. At the time of cofirmation the car gets a production number, 7 digits long, of which the first two digits signify the production week, and the third the day of the week. At this point, the odds of the car actually getting built get pretty good.

The first relief to the wait is seen on the NEWADA terminal once the car is completed at the factory, and finally a VIN is attached to the order. Now the car exists, and if trucks/trains/ships dont crash/derail/sink your car should be on its way!

One must remeber that at ANY point of the process, an order may get delayed due to production restrictions, but if the dealer has allotment and gets the order in, the order number (NW KOM) should be attached to a customer number/name at NEWADA.

Also, this article on CAR WOW

Different variations, gearboxes or engines of a car can make a significant difference to the time it takes for delivery. Even a particular option that you choose can make a big difference, for example when the Mk7 Golf was launched if you chose the rear view camera there were longer delays than the manual due to supply chain delays.

How accurate are the delivery times?
Dealers are generally very hesitant to give an exact delivery time as they are hard to predict. Car factories are complicated processes and a delay in just one part can set the whole production line back. Car manufacturers may also choose to prioritise a particular type of car or engine for supply chain or demand reasons.

As a result it’s not recommended to take the delivery time as gospel and it can be a good idea to order as early as possible, you can always leave the car at the dealership unregistered if it does arrive too early for you.

Why are the lead times so long?
It’s mainly because cars are such a complicated product to build and lots of consumers want one built to their exact configuration.

Unlike a standardised product, such as a mobile phone, most models of new car can be built in thousands of different combinations. For example the Mini is available in over 10 million combinations!


How can I get quicker delivery?
Delivery times can vary between dealers. Each dealer will be allocated a certain amount of factory build slots which may delay delivery depending on how full their order book is.
 
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If you have your order number, just ring Audi CS and they will be able to tell you.

Just did that Veeeight. Transpires that the dealer has exceeded their order quota and Audi are refusing to accept any further orders!!! I am not sure where this leaves me now...
 
Get your deposit back, order via another dealer sounds like a promising option.
 
Just did that Veeeight. Transpires that the dealer has exceeded their order quota and Audi are refusing to accept any further orders!!! I am not sure where this leaves me now...
Let me know your spec and I'll ask my dealer.
 
Ummm... a quick scan of those articles and it appears to me that it is simply about high demand. The yanks don't buy hatch backs. That is why the old A3 did not sell well in the States. Is it a shock that they really like the new A3 saloon/sedan?

Not sure what age has to do with it. Younger people tend to have less disposable income so they buy the cheaper car. It's not rocket surgery.

It is the older age group of A4 buyers compared to those who buy A3's, it states this in one of the articles. But yes the demand for the A3 saloon is higher than anticipated, down to it being the best looking A3, but Audi aren't looking at stepping up production because this could affect the residuals...
 
Let me know your spec and I'll ask my dealer.

That's kind of you. It's on a four year business lease with maintenance included and an 8k mileage limit p/a.

A3 S-Line 1.4 TFSI COD
Misano Red
Privacy glass
Interior lighting package
B & O sound system
SD sat nav
Deselect sports suspension
Heated seats
Comfort pack

I think that's it...

My current car goes back on 16 September.
 
That's kind of you. It's on a four year business lease with maintenance included and an 8k mileage limit p/a.

A3 S-Line 1.4 TFSI COD
Misano Red
Privacy glass
Interior lighting package
B & O sound system
SD sat nav
Deselect sports suspension
Heated seats
Comfort pack

I think that's it...

My current car goes back on 16 September.

Forgot S-Tronic gearbox as well!
 
Forgot S-Tronic gearbox as well!
OK I phoned my dealer but he is away until tomorrow morning so I've sent him an email with your spec. and explained the situation. Can you send me a PM with your contact details so you can deal direct with the dealer should things work out.
 

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