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I'm new to all this, basically I couldn't decide whether I wanted a petrol or a diesel with me being used to petrol but everyone says diesel!
Well I got a diesel and now I'm thinking I should of got a petrol, anyone think I should or is it a waist of time now I already have the diesel?
Should I just do an ecu remap?
I've got the 2009 black edition, if I was to get petrol I would only get 1.8tfsi or 2.0tfsi !!
Please help
 
Remap it and trust me you will be very happy, the increase in pull you get combined with the mpg you achieve is amazing.
 
Ok thanks,
I heard revo are ok for remap!
Will I need to change any internals, not sure how much you can push the standard turbo up to (bhp) do u also know or anyone know what the engine can be pushed to without changing internals as well?? :/
 
Most maps will bring it to 180-185 bhp without any need for any other new hardware so long as the car is otherwise running fine, you can push it further but will need new additions along with it, if you do a forum/google search you will find plenty of good info on the topic.
 
Standard remap will see 180bhp with no other mods.

Next step would be budget turbo and exhaust kit from somewhere like Darkside Developments, should see 220bhp on standard everything except turbo and exhaust obviously.

Standard air filter should be good for 250bhp+, as is the intercooler. Engine internals shouldn't need touching unless you go further than above.
 
Oh, forgot to add, injectors max out approx 230bhp. They are the first limiting thing after turbo.

Clutch is also a consideration, although none of the things I have mentioned are "internals".
 
Don't know, just used to the petrol engine, feel safer if you know what I mean! with the diesel I'm not used to the noises, or the drive,, plus i like the noise off the petrol engines! :)
 
Fair enough, my first cars a diesel haha. I'd say get a remap... Diesels have awesome torque at the lower revs, makes it fun to drive!
 
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i have the 140 and just got it remaped with revo and it is like a different car,loads more power and grunt and worth the money
 
It is good when over taking up hill as you dont need to change down a gear just put foot down and go,
i would recomend a remap any day,
Thanks for the link smithy as i was looking at a bit more power and they look good, i will do a bit more reserch first.
I do love this site apart from it cost me more money as the links make me wont more lol:yahoo:
 
I'm tempted by a remap but am worried about the stress it may put on the parts like the turbo and clutch. Surely it's at a certain bhp at factory for a reason.
 
That's what I was thinking, but surely internals and parts are all the same as the 170 version and remap in only pushing 10 more than that so not much more pressure involved really!
And if smithy is right then turbo should be good up to 200bhp so remap to 180 should be ok and upgrade turbo if you want more! Clutch is an issue but not major really I wouldn't think!
 
Mine is at 187bhp after remap, had it done 2months ago and done 3500 miles and it is driven hard at times and all is good under the hood,
it feels like the engine runs more free and doesnt strain the engine when over taking so thats good in my eyes
 
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dannyAshcroft89 said:
That's what I was thinking, but surely internals and parts are all the same as the 170 version and remap in only pushing 10 more than that so not much more pressure involved really!
And if smithy is right then turbo should be good up to 200bhp so remap to 180 should be ok and upgrade turbo if you want more! Clutch is an issue but not major really I wouldn't think!
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Where are you based buddy?
 
My mate has done about 6k since his remap, and has had to replace his turbo but it was on its last legs anyway.

Being 2009 yours should be the newer, more refined Common Rail engine, with far less problems!
 
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Over on the sunny East Coast.

I've got the same motor as you, If it's an 09 you'll fall lucky and the ECU is easier to map....... so I'm told. Mines just about to do 50k and been told by Autotechnica in Hull, revo specialist that thee should be no issues at all. If the cars been well maintained and not showing any negative signs it should all be ok

Have you had the cambelt done yet?
 
Yeh car has been maintained and has had a new cambelt kit put on by Audi them selves!
That's good to know, hopefully will be quite easy then!
 
A guy across the road has his own remap station, rolling road ecu ect, he said it is same stuff revo use, but never know what to trust! Might just go revo them selves!! :/
 
Or should I say who to trust as if anything went wrong there's a lot of money at steak! Only thing is he has had it done at his place by himself for last 3 4 month and no problems as of yet so I'm still in two minds!
 
Two main ones on here seem to be Shark and Revo.

Both have good reviews, results and offer about the same figures. Just gonna get over my expensive month and seriously look at doing mine. The 140 is a good all rounder in my opinion (slightly biased though), it's good on set off, plenty of torque for overtaking, good on fuel and fewer EGR valve issues than the 170 (so I hear)

I've had mine two years now and just wanting to put a little more fizz back in as I'm gonna keep it for a while longer.
 
If you're in Manchester, try Awesome GTI mate. They get a cracking write up and are specialists in all things VW/Audi.

I've been a few times, to rolling road days/remapping sessions etc and it's a very professional set up.
 
Yeh I heard the 170 get dpf issues as well where 140 not as much! Yeh same keeping my good few years, well that's the plan! Couldn't ask for a much nicer car really! Good all rounder! Is yours the 3 door or 5 ?
 
i used revo and no problems,i spoke to them first and asked loads of questions and they seemed to no all about my engine so i would recomend them,
get it done and you will think you have a new car.
keep us up to date mate
 
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Cheers smithy will have a look into them!
Have to let me know if they put any events on ect, I never hear about car events or anything, I must be always looking in the wrong place, lol. Doesn't help with me working nights and not getting a social life anymore!!
 
dannyAshcroft89 said:
Yeh I heard the 170 get dpf issues as well where 140 not as much! Yeh same keeping my good few years, well that's the plan! Couldn't ask for a much nicer car really! Good all rounder! Is yours the 3 door or 5 ?
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5 door, if you have a search I just did a TLC thread, it's in Leeds at the min with a detailer ready for summer.

Keep me posted on the map you use pal, will be good to hear who you use and how you find it.
 
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Oh, forgot to add, injectors max out approx 230bhp. They are the first limiting thing after turbo.

Clutch is also a consideration, although none of the things I have mentioned are "internals".
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Are injectors about £700-1000 mate just to see an increase of 20bhp from 220 to 240? Im thinking about going for a bigger turbo too but i hear the stock injectors will only be able to reach 220bhp MAX
 
Last I check the uprated injectors were £700 if you had a good set of serviceable injectors to hand back, £1000 if you just want to buy them outright.

They allow you to go over the 230hp that you're limited to on stock injectors. The highest I've seen is 330hp on one of Darksides project cars I think it was, I'm sure it was on the website somewhere.
 
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I'm tempted by a remap but am worried about the stress it may put on the parts like the turbo and clutch. Surely it's at a certain bhp at factory for a reason.
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The reason these engines come out of the factory with bulk standed maps is so they conform to all the rules and regulations from the EU governing engine performance and there outputs emission wise and the different grades of fuel used around the world,climate is also a consideration when factory mapping is applied.
So there is better performance to be had from most engines with a simple stage one remap.I've had my Superchips map nearly 2 years now and all is still ok parts wise.
 
SmithyAG said:
Last I check the uprated injectors were £700 if you had a good set of serviceable injectors to hand back, £1000 if you just want to buy them outright.They allow you to go over the 230hp that you're limited to on stock injectors. The highest I've seen is 330hp on one of Darksides project cars I think it was, I'm sure it was on the website somewhere.
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Damn, 330hp is nice. I'm thinking if you're gonna spend £1000 on injectors then you may aswell try and push for 250bhp+ if the stock injectors will only go to 230bhp. No point spending £1000 for just 20bhp surely
 
I'm assuming that the injector duty cycle is maxed out at around 230bhp then? I think I need to do some VCDS logging and see how close to max mine are.

What CC are stock injectors? Can they not be increased by using a stronger fuel pressure regulator?
 
Sorry of subject a little but does anyone know what an air filter sounds like on the 140 diesel? Always had a filter but always been petrol!
 
dannyAshcroft89 said:
Sorry of subject a little but does anyone know what an air filter sounds like on the 140 diesel? Always had a filter but always been petrol!
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I assume you mean like a K&N set up or Pipercross panel filter.

If there is any change, it isn't noticeable tbh.
 
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