Space Saver for TDIe - What Part Numbers please?

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Recently had a puncture experience and can now see the value of a space saver wheel which my TDIe does not have have standard.
Hoping to source the parts from various sources and was wondering what space saver I would need?
My standard 17" alloys have 225/50 R 17 tyres.

Have sourced an Audi jack and brace + toolkit etc. with a foam tool insert so that's one item off the list.

Looking for the part numbers for the correct space saver wheel and was wondering if this is the correct one, "8K0 601 027 D"?
Various listings saying the wheel has tyres like this "HANKOOK T125/70 R19 100M" or "CONTINENTAL T125/70 R19 100M" - would these be suitable for my B8 with 17" alloys?

Will then see about getting a new battery cover to sit the wheel on to hide it all away neatly - guess this will have to come from the dealer - what part number for this?

Many Thanks.

PS Have all the part number for my B6 just not got an up-to-date ETKA at present for my 2012 Facelift B8!
Hoping someone can have a look in their boot for me.
 
I am surprised at the lack of feedback from any member on this B8 forum compared to the interaction experienced on the B6 forum for many years. Anyway as they say if you want something done - DIY!!

So for anybody wishing to do this upgrade here is what I found out to complete my spacesaver wheel retrofit:

My A4 TDIe Saloon has this under the boot floor:
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And if you remove the battery cover you will see the limited tool kit you have:
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02-No_Spare_Wheel-Tools.jpg

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You will need a new Tool tray to carry the jack and wheel brace and other items, which is "8T0 012 109 A":
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You can move your existing tools across to the new insert and will require the following additional tools:
  • 02: Jack [8K0 011 021] >> the one I have is a part number 8K0 011 031 G and handle 8K0 011 221.
  • 10: Socket wrench for wheel bolts [8N0 012 219]
  • 11: Removal Tool Wheel Cap [8L0 012 243]
  • 12: Tommy bar [893 012 223]
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04-New_Tool_Tray_with_Tools.jpg

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You need a new battery cover to carry the space saver wheel [8T0 012 116 B]:
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And of course the actual space saver wheel [8K0 601 027 D] and tyre, Continental or Hankook T125/70 R19 100M [8K0 601 308], which is secured with the original centre cap bolt:
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And the floor fits back as before:
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Now of course you can go to Audi and get all these parts brand new (parts list link) which I was advised by Audi would be around £305 + VAT = £366, but I found there are quite a few of these items on Ebay at a fraction of the cost. For instance I was able to get a complete tool kit including polystyrene insert for £39.90 delivered. I reckon this actual tool kit I purchased would have been around £75 from Audi with all the parts I got so a nice bargain. A brand new unused space saver wheel with Continental tyre for £107.94 delivered. The only item I purchased from Audi was the battery cover ("cover for spare well") which was £15.24 inc VAT, so cost me £163.08 in total.

Make sure you transfer across your locking wheel nut!!

This is well worth the upgrade as nothing worse than being out and about relying on a can of foam and a pump which may or may not work and then you have to buy a new tyre as the foam has made it unrepairable!
 
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My car's pretty different to that. OK it's an Avant soI guess thats the reason. All my tools are under a false floor in the rear of the boot. Within my spare wheel I have the B&O subwoofer.
 
I have the B&O + DAB Sound Package - but as mine is a Saloon my sub is under the rear shelf.
 
Makes sense.

Just to reverse what you're doing : My car has 19" Dunlop's and they're actually run flats. You can do 50mph for miles on them .... which is the same as the space saver in my boot. It seems a bit overkill when the odds not being able to use the run flat is quite remote.

I guess it enables me to use both and get 100miles. If my old TT you'd get a big bag in the tool kit so you could put the full size wheel in it as it didn't fit in the wheel well. Dunno why they don't do that for the A4.

With regards that bag, I once heard an Audi tech telling someone it was a pad for knealing on when changing tyres!
 
Had a BMW 320d Tourer which the B8 has now replaced - run flats are a pain to get when you simply need new tyres. As with this and previous lease cars always had to go to a named tyre agent (was ATS, now Kwik fit), they never stocked the run flat tyres - colleagues also had this problem,
My B8 TDIe does not have run flats - hence the precaution of a space saver - if it had run flats would not have started this thread!
 
Additional pictures of boot floor handle and confirming floor is flush with space saver in my Saloon....

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Really excellent bit of research, just about to embark on the same project, thanks for sharing your work. Down with gunk!
 
I am having exactly same problems.I also have 17" alloys. So do not understand why the space saver wheel you have is 19".Is this compatable. I have spoken to Audi Manchester and they confirm that there is no spec. for space saver for my car but then offered a 19"
version. However they said if I put one of these in the car it would invalidate my insurance on the basis that I would have altered the specification.I am now utterly confused??
Have you confirmed that 19" is OK replacement for original 17" version//
 
Hi Woorlord,
Have you actually tried the 19" space saver wheel on the car to replace the 17" Alloys.I'm a bit concerned about offset.
I think you have done a great job but where did you get the part nos. from. I've found an audi A4 space saver wheel 17" with jack and
socket wrench on ebay for £149.99. Seller promotorukgroup(1620) but again I need to confirm compatability. Regards Glenys
 
Thank you for sharing this info OP. V nicely detailed with pictures.
 
glenys said:
Hi Woorlord,
Have you actually tried the 19" space saver wheel on the car to replace the 17" Alloys.I'm a bit concerned about offset.
I think you have done a great job but where did you get the part nos. from. I've found an audi A4 space saver wheel 17" with jack and
socket wrench on ebay for £149.99. Seller promotorukgroup(1620) but again I need to confirm compatability. Regards Glenys
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be careful! It may depend on the age of your car. I have a 14 reg 136 TDie and got a 17" space saver from a breakers but it would not fit! The central hole in the wheel was too small for the boss on the hub. The advertised 17 "wheels have a different part number to this and I'm not sure if the boss has changed on the car or if the 17" wheel is a smaller hole, does anyone know which?
 
glenys said:
Hi Woorlord,
Have you actually tried the 19" space saver wheel on the car to replace the 17" Alloys.I'm a bit concerned about offset.
I think you have done a great job but where did you get the part nos. from. I've found an audi A4 space saver wheel 17" with jack and
socket wrench on ebay for £149.99. Seller promotorukgroup(1620) but again I need to confirm compatability. Regards Glenys
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First thing I did when I got it was to try it on the car - and it fits fine. I have also used it to get a puncture repaired after arriving home and a rear went flat. My nearest KwikFit is around 8 miles away so got me there OK. A colleague has an A4 TDIe Avant 163ps with the same alloys - non-Quattro - his car came fitted with a space saver which was annoying for me in a saloon - that's how I confirmed the part number of the wheel and tyre.
 
Thanks for the post, Woorlord, I found it extremely useful. I did exactly the same as you, but got the wheel from EBay for £50, as well as the tool kit and insert for another £50. I also had to buy the cover from Audi and it has gone up to £16.82 inc VAT since your post. Total cost £116.82. Thanks again!
 
scoTTy said:
My car's pretty different to that. OK it's an Avant soI guess thats the reason. All my tools are under a false floor in the rear of the boot. Within my spare wheel I have the B&O subwoofer.
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but do you have a picture of your Avant's kit or what year is it? I have a Saloon and looking to scavange the toolkit from a written off 15 plate Estate but not sure if the toolkit is the same or not.
 
Woorlord said:
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And of course the actual space saver wheel [8K0 601 027 D] and tyre, Continental or Hankook T125/70 R19 100M [8K0 601 308]...
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Hi Woorlord,

Thank you for taking the time to explain this.

Do you know if, in case of a flat, it’s ok to use 18” or 19” when you have 17” wheels all around?

Cheers
 
AndreBerty said:
Hi Woorlord,

Thank you for taking the time to explain this.

Do you know if, in case of a flat, it’s ok to use 18” or 19” when you have 17” wheels all around?

Cheers
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What you have to consider is, prior to lots of cars having 18" or 19" alloy wheels, the standard space saver was 19" - don't get confused by that as that is the diameter that some manufacturers came up with for a skinny tyred wheel.

Edit:- obviously it will need to be able to fit an Audi B8/B8.5 hub so that means the correct fixing holes PCD and centre hole - so just grabbing any black skinny 19" wheel and tyre will not work.
 
rum4mo said:
What you have to consider is, prior to lots of cars having 18" or 19" alloy wheels, the standard space saver was 19" - don't get confused by that as that is the diameter that some manufacturers came up with for a skinny tyred wheel.

Edit:- obviously it will need to be able to fit an Audi B8/B8.5 hub so that means the correct fixing holes PCD and centre hole - so just grabbing any black skinny 19" wheel and tyre will not work.
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I’ve found this:

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The seller said it will fit Audi A4 B8.
Any idea how to check before buying it? I’m supposed to pick it up Friday.

Many thanks.


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What was fitted to my February 2011 B8 S4 at the factory was:-

SPARE STEEL WHEEL P/N Space saver 8K0 601 027D 4.00B X 19H2 ET29

SPARE STEEL WHEEL Space saver tyre T 125/70R 19 100M

What difference the "D" makes over the "B" I can not say.

Edit:- A5 spare okay for A5, but A4 always has a different offset, though not it seems here as both what you listed has ET29 as has my car's space saver, again I don't know what the "B" to "D" difference is, might only be an age thing, but might be something else.
 
rum4mo said:
What was fitted to my February 2011 B8 S4 at the factory was:-

SPARE STEEL WHEEL P/N Space saver 8K0 601 027D 4.00B X 19H2 ET29

SPARE STEEL WHEEL Space saver tyre T 125/70R 19 100M

What difference the "D" makes over the "B" I can not say.

Edit:- A5 spare okay for A5, but A4 always has a different offset, though not it seems here as both what you listed has ET29 as has my car's space saver, again I don't know what the "B" to "D" difference is, might only be an age thing, but might be something else.
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I have called Audi and they told me it’s F now not B anymore and that it should fit my car
 
Hello,

I managed to do what @Woorlord did.
I have an Audi A4 B8 SE 2010 salon 2.0 TDI and my boot/trunk is same as in Woorlord’s pics.
I bought the plastic cover from Audi for £16.82 (including VAT), managed to buy the spare wheel from eBay with £45 (part 8K0 601 027D - picked it up from Birmingham) and bought the tray with all the tools from eBay for £45 (still waiting for it).

FYI: Before buying the spare wheel I have spoken with Audi and part no 8K0 601 027D was discontinued, apparently there was some issues with it (I don’t know what, I haven’t searched the web, I will dig into it and come back with info if it’s the case), then they made same spare wheel (I’ve seen the other series and part numbers and can’t see a difference except the green print with info) with part number 8K0 601 207B, and these days apparently it’s 8K0 601 207F which again couldn’t find any difference. All are 18” or 19” and according to what Audi said you can use it with 17” wheels. Anyway I’m not the type of guy who, in case of need, will put it on and forget about it.

Cheers,

Andrei
 
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