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luke2702

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Properly been posted on here many times! But temperature on car goes up to 90 when sat at lights or just ticking over as soon as i start driving it starts to drop, is this the temp sensor or thermostat?

Also any links to how too change which is faulty.

What are the bad points for the car when this is happening?

Thanks
 
Thermostat Luke, it's not a major issue now that it's getting warmer but i'd change it. Car will run at its best when its running at 90oC
 
cheers sandip, how much and how long to fit them?

Luke
 
Can only find the gasket no thermostat listed! Ahhhhhhhhhh.....
 
Thanks again Sandip put mine is engine code BAM... Luke
 
Just ordered this with gasket and delivery £7.57 bargain!!!!
 
Was going to get genuine audi but it was £20.00, cant see there being that much difference between them, fingers crossed....

Thanks for How to guide...
 
Was going to get genuine audi but it was £20.00, cant see there being that much difference between them, fingers crossed....

Thanks for How to guide...

I've fitted 3 Euro Car Parts thermostats now, and each one has been spot on!
 
That sounds good to me, only thing why have you fitted 3 (3 different cars? I hope)
 
Exactly what would happen if you didn't change it?

Mine does that too but still runs spot on. Surely the engine temp/oil etc is the same its just reporting a low reading. Will get it replaced next time its in a garage but i don't think its doing any harm?
 
Dont think it does any harm just engine will run better at a constant 90°C and have better fuel consumption.
 
Exactly what would happen if you didn't change it?

Mine does that too but still runs spot on. Surely the engine temp/oil etc is the same its just reporting a low reading. Will get it replaced next time its in a garage but i don't think its doing any harm?

No harm I guess, just increased fuel consumption. Engine runs richer when it's not up to temp, a faulty thermo is not allowing the engine to get and stay at temp
 
But the problem may be a faulty temp sender and not thermo. I think thats the likely cause on mine as the economy is fine.
 
But the problem may be a faulty temp sender and not thermo. I think thats the likely cause on mine as the economy is fine.


Have a look!

Do the 49C trick to confirm the real live reading of the engine temperature via the climate control:

* Press re-circulating air and then de-mist up arrow simultaneously.
* Turn temperature control knob until 49C is displayed.
* Press re-circulating air to display reading.
* Press re-circulating air and up arrow again to cancel.

Your needle dash gauge shows a software weighted figure that sits at a re-assuring 90 deg C. normally and only departs when the 49C figure is significantly different (>10 deg C.).

If the two readings (dashpod temperature needle, and 49C) agree, then it rules out the possibility that your dashpod is at fault which can happen! Bear in mind the software weighting. Here are some examples:

.... 49C = 82 deg C. then the dashpod should read 90 deg C.
.... 49C = 75 deg C. then the dashpod should read 75 deg C.
.... 49C = 105 deg C. then the dashpod should read 105 deg C.
.... 49C = 90 deg C. and the dashpod = 100 deg C. then you have a faulty dashpod
.... 49C = 93 deg C. and the dashpod = 80 deg C then you have a faulty dashpod
.... 49C = 75 deg C. and the dashpod = 75 deg C. then you have either a faulty sensor or thermostat.

If your temperature is low, e.g. 75 deg C. then this generally indicates you need a new thermostat and it's sticking open. You can often see the temperature fall on a long overrun when no petrol is being burnt but the radiator is still cooling the engine. BUT check the water temperature with a thermometer to confirm the water temperature is real and not a faulty sensor!

If 49C is fine, a high or low needle reading is going to be caused by a faulty dashpod.

If 49C shows too hot as well as the needle gauge it's more likely to be a stuck thermostat or failed waterpump, collapsed hose, non functioning fan etc.

Bear in mind that when stuck in traffic and with no airflow the engine temperature will normally climb until the radiator fan cuts in at ~100 deg C. on it's own thermostatic switch and brings the temperature down. The temperature will cycle up and down like this with the fan turning on and off, unless alternative airflow is resumed by the car moving, or, if you have the air conditioning turned on, which has its own fan and creates independent airflow if it's cooling the cabin.

Another thing to bear in mind is that there are two temperature sensors in the same screw in sensor unit on the engine. One sensor (G2) feeds the needle gauge and one (G62) feeds the ECU. G2 is also read by the climate control as 49C. There has been some confusion and misinformation about this: 49C does NOT read the ECU sensor and 51C does NOT represent the equivalent of the dashpod software weighted 49C reading. Ignore 51C.
 
I see, will have a go. Though i don't have a temperature control knob... Just the buttons. I assume i can still do it?

Will look tonight as i'll need to warm it up first. Just printed your post off!
 
The recirc button next to "off" ;

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I sussed it. Looks like it was reading ok but i'll have a look on the way home on a longer run. That may expose thermostat or temp sender fault

Any other interesting things you can do with the climate controller?
 
Excellent, cheers

It says 49C is malfunction counter for speedometer though and 51C is coolant temp? Yet the instructions say to ignore 51C?
 
Bottom line with these queries, this is the rule of thumb:

If it warms up to temp when stationary and the needle moves about OK, then the temp sensor is OK. It IS reading temp and displaying the data it sees accordingly on the dash.

If the needle doesn't move at all, or reads lower than 90 all the time, stationary for a while and whilst moving, the sender may be poorly.
 
How will i know if this is the right coolant for mine?

how much is in each bottle?

That is the coolant Audi sells and recommends, £7ish per bootle. Each one is 1.5litres,

Recommended protection coolant mixture ratios are:

-25 deg C. = 40% Antifreeze 60% water
-35 deg C. = 50% Antifreeze 50% water


Use distilled water to mix and avoid problems. Keep between these ratios. Too little antifreeze may freeze obviously but too much won't cool as well.
 
That is the coolant Audi sells and recommends, £7ish per bootle. Each one is 1.5litres,

Recommended protection coolant mixture ratios are:

-25 deg C. = 40% Antifreeze 60% water
-35 deg C. = 50% Antifreeze 50% water


Use distilled water to mix and avoid problems. Keep between these ratios. Too little antifreeze may freeze obviously but too much won't cool as well.

How do i test to see how much is in there?

Thanks
 
When you are changing the stat, you will lose the coolant anyway, so an opportunity to drain it. Get a bucket or what ever, fill with 1.5litres of water and add your coolant, pour in. Fill till the coolant is above the minimum marker on the coolant tank
 
When you are changing the stat, you will lose the coolant anyway, so an opportunity to drain it. Get a bucket or what ever, fill with 1.5litres of water and add your coolant, pour in. Fill till the coolant is above the minimum marker on the coolant tank

How much does the coolant system take in litres?

Just check mine and it is flourescent pink is that right?

Thanks
 
Monitored the temp on the way home tonight and its reading about 70-80 all the time unless stationary for a while. So it looks like its my thermostat. Cheers for the info finesse.
 
How much does the coolant system take in litres?

Just check mine and it is flourescent pink is that right?

Thanks


not sure how many litres, last time I put about 3.5 litres, just watch the minimum marker, don't over fill.


Monitored the temp on the way home tonight and its reading about 70-80 all the time unless stationary for a while. So it looks like its my thermostat. Cheers for the info finesse.

No problem, sort the thermostat, am sure you'll see the difference! I did!!!
 
Got thermostat changed thanks to help from my neighbour, know sitting at 90 degrees and held under pressure thank god.... One thing i must say if you are doing it yourself make sure you have spare dipstick holder as mine snapped and i had to go and get one from scrappers, only £3 but still a pain....

Thanks for everyones help with this....
 

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